Homo floresiensis and Homo luzonensis

The Flores and Luzon bones are a real small-bodied population, not diseased modern humans. Island dwarfing explains the body, but published models reach the 426 cc brain from a start of about 600 to 860 cc, never from a modern one. No young-earth source dates either site in years; two place Liang Bua on opposite sides of the Flood.

By AI (Claude Fable 5.1, reasoning effort 80) Draft:  October 2026

"The first hominin immigrants may have had a similar body size to H. erectus and early Homo, with subsequent dwarfing; or, an unknown small-bodied and small-brained hominin may have arrived on Flores from the Sunda Shelf." — Peter Brown and colleagues, describing the skeleton, 20041

"How the small brain size reported for the ~60,000 years old LB1 evolved still remains unknown." — Yousuke Kaifu and colleagues, publishing the Mata Menge arm bone, 20242

"young-age creationists have not yet reinterpreted most of the absolute dating technologies employed for dating the Flores skeleton" — Kurt Wise, young-earth palaeontologist, 20053

Summary

In 2003 a team digging in Liang Bua cave on the Indonesian island of Flores found most of the skeleton of an adult, probably a woman, about a metre tall, with a brain a third the size of ours.  By 2005 the bones of at least eight more small people had come out of the same cave, and in 2014 and later a jaw fragment, teeth and an arm bone of the same size or smaller came out of river sandstone at Mata Menge, about 50 km to the east and far lower in the rock.  In 2019 thirteen bones and teeth from Callao Cave on Luzon, in the Philippines, were named a second island species.  This article asks what the bones are, whether they are sick modern humans, how they are dated, whether island dwarfing can make them, and what young-earth writers have said.  The answers, in order.

  1. The Flores form is a population, not a patient.  LB1 is the only skull, but the cave holds a second chinless jaw of the same odd form and a second, smaller shin bone, and the describers count "at least nine" individuals.4  Mata Menge adds ten more pieces from at least four people in a different kind of deposit,2 and its adult arm bone is 9 to 16 per cent shorter than LB1's.2  No disease belongs to two sites.

  2. Every "diseased modern human" diagnosis failed on a specific measurement, and the critics were right about four things.  Microcephaly, Laron syndrome, cretinism and Down syndrome were each proposed for LB1 and each failed:  the wrist bones take their shape by the eleventh week in the womb and are the ape pattern in LB1,5 LB1's brain is smaller than the cretinism authors themselves expected of a cretin,6 and adult brains in Down syndrome average 87 per cent of normal where LB1's is a third.7  The diagnoses failed and were not all given up:  two of the four author groups answered their critics and held their ground.  There is one skull, it is asymmetric, the critics' 430 ml was closer to the micro-CT value of 426 than the describers' 380 or 417,89 and modern people on this island did become short.10  The full case is in Homo floresiensis: The Disease Proposals.

  3. The headline date was wrong for twelve years, and what failed was a trench wall, not a clock.  The 2004 papers put LB1 at about 18,000 years.1  In 2016 the same team showed that the hobbit beds are an eroded pedestal with a steeply sloping top, that younger sediment had banked against that slope, and that every piece of dated charcoal had come from the younger sediment.11  The pedestal itself, dated by luminescence, by argon on the ash directly above it, by uranium on cave formations and on the hobbit bones themselves, gives about 100 to 60 thousand years for the skeletons.11  Mata Menge sits between volcanic beds dated by three decay systems to about 0.8 and 0.65 million years.12  No young-earth source dates either site in years.  Most reject the dates and stop there.13  Two give the Liang Bua skeleton a place, and they disagree:  Kurt Wise after Babel,3 and Joel Klenck among the people living just before the Flood.14

  4. Island dwarfing is real, fast and extreme, and it still cannot make this brain from a modern one.  Red deer on Jersey lost five sixths of their weight in under six thousand years,15 and dwarf hippos on Madagascar have brains up to 30 per cent smaller than body scaling predicts.16  Those rules take a typical Homo erectus brain to 493 cc, not 426, and nothing published gets a modern-sized brain there.  The published models reach the hobbit only from a smaller start:  small erectus skulls of 804 and 650 cc on the hippo rule,16 and, on human body scaling, the earliest Javan erectus at 860 cc on the steepest of eight slopes or Homo habilis at 614 cc on the middle ones.9  The authors of the scaling study call the Javan route "possible in terms of brain size," with up to half the loss left to something other than body size.99  From habilis the brain needs nothing beyond scaling, but the body still has to shrink most of the distance a Javan erectus needs, and the Mata Menge jaw and molars count against a habilis ancestor.2  Almost every creationist source counts erectus as human, and Todd Wood's 2010 baraminology adds habilis.17  Wieland, Wise, and Rupe and Sanford name erectus as the ancestor.18319  None of them says how large its brain was or runs the numbers, and every route ends at a 426 cc human.  The arithmetic, the selection a young-earth window needs, and the early-Homo origin are in Homo floresiensis: Island Dwarfing and the Small Brain.

  5. Tools yes, butchery yes, fire no, symbols no, and nobody knows how they crossed the sea.  The excavators report "apparent technological continuity" in the stone flakes from Mata Menge to Liang Bua.20  The fire claimed in 2005 did not survive re-examination by members of the same team:  the "charred" bone is manganese staining, the reddened stones were never heated, and the only hearths in the cave are 41 to 24 thousand years old and attributed to modern humans.2121  Flores, Sulawesi and Luzon were never joined to the mainland.22  The excavators now favour accidental rafting;  Rupe and Sanford's objection, that a raft carries a castaway and not a breeding population, is a fair one.192

  6. Young-earth writers do not agree with each other, and four of them misstate or leave out what they cite.  Carl Wieland called the hobbit a dwarfed erectus the day it was announced;18  CMI leaned to a diseased modern human by 2006;23  Joel Klenck made it a people of Nephilim descent destroyed by the Flood;14  Peter Line argues cretinism in 2022;13  Jean O'Micks calls it an australopith;24  Sinclair and Wood's statistics cannot place it.25  On the thirteen Luzon bones, Answers in Genesis says "It's an ape"26 and Creation Ministries International says there is "no reason to think that H. luzonensis is not human."27  Part 6 quotes each one beside the passage it misstates.

The verdict.  The Flores bones are a real population of very small hominins with brains the size of an australopith's, hands and feet unlike any living human's, and a flake-tool culture that lasted, on the conventional clock, hundreds of thousands of years.  The describers put them in Homo and the evidence has not moved them out.  Whether a young-earth model can carry them depends on a question that model has not settled:  how small-brained the first people on Flores were.  If they were like the small Homo erectus skulls of 650 to 860 cc, or like Homo habilis, the published models reach 426 cc, and the hobbit costs the model a very small-brained human and a body that still has to shrink most of the way.  If they had a typical erectus brain, the hippo rule stops near 490 cc, and the rest must be shed beyond the 30 per cent measured in any island dwarf whose ancestor is known, within whatever span the model allows before the Liang Bua skeleton.  If they had a modern brain, no published model reaches 426 cc at all.  On any of these answers, no young-earth source has yet said what year, in its own chronology, the Mata Menge sandstone or the Liang Bua pedestal formed.

Part 1: What was found, in numbers

Liang Bua.  The cave is in western Flores.  In September 2003 the Indonesian-Australian team dug the skeleton now called LB1 from 5.9 m down in Sector VII:  skull and lower jaw, both thigh bones, both shin bones, the fibulae and kneecaps, part of the pelvis, incomplete hands and feet, and fragments of spine, ribs, shoulder blades and collar bones.1  The bones were soft.  "The skeleton is extremely fragile and not fossilized or covered with calcium carbonate."1  The describers judged it an adult female from the pelvis and put its brain at 380 cm³ by filling the skull with mustard seed, "well below the previously accepted range for the genus Homo and equal to the minimum estimates for Australopithecus."1  That number was the outlier.  In 2005 Dean Falk's team, with Brown and Morwood among its authors, got 417 cm³ from a hospital CT scan and put the difference down to how holes in the skull were plugged;28  in 2006 Teuku Jacob's team, the critics, using seed again after removing breccia, got 430 ml;8  and in 2013 Daisuke Kubo, Reiko Kono and Yousuke Kaifu, none of them an author of any earlier figure, got 425.7 cc from a micro-CT scan, which they print as 426 cc, give or take about 3 cc.999  So the critics' figure was the closest of the three earlier ones, and the describers' side had corrected most of its own error more than a year before the critics published.  This article uses 426.

Stature depends on which bone is used.  The thigh bone is 280 mm long, and formulae built on human pygmies give 106 cm, which the describers themselves called "likely to be an overestimation owing to LB1's relatively small cranial height."1  The arm bone, recovered in 2004, gives 121 cm on the same pygmy model, because LB1's arm is long for its leg.2  The ratio of arm to leg, the humerofemoral index, is 85.4, "outside the range of variation for H. sapiens, but is the same as AL 288-1 A. afarensis, and midway between the indices for apes and humans."4  AL 288-1 is Lucy.  Body mass is 16 to 28.7 kg from stature, or 36 kg from the cross-section of the thigh bone.1

The 2004 season added LB1's own right arm bones, a second adult lower jaw, LB6/1, which like LB1's has no chin, and an adult shin bone, LB8, estimated at 216 mm against LB1's 235 mm, so from a person shorter still.4  With scattered bones from three sectors the excavators counted "at least nine such individuals."4  Only LB1 has a braincase.  Every claim about brain size in this article rests on one skull, and the critics are right to keep saying so.  What the cave does not hold matters too:  "none of the hominin remains recovered from the Pleistocene deposits are of modern humans,"4 and "no pigments or symbolic items were found, in contrast with Holocene occupation levels."4

Mata Menge.  The second site is in the So'a Basin of central Flores, about 50 km east of the cave,20 in open-air river sandstone rather than cave earth, and far lower in the rock.  Excavation in 2014 produced a fragment of adult lower jaw and six teeth from "at least three small-jawed and small-toothed individuals";29  the 2024 paper added two more teeth and the lower half of an adult upper-arm bone, SOA-MM9, for ten pieces in all, and now counts "at least four individuals including one adult, one adolescent/young adult, and two children."2  Bone histology shows the arm bone is adult.  Its estimated length is 211 to 220 mm against LB1's 243 mm, "9 − 16% shorter and thinner than the type specimen of H. floresiensis," and "smaller than any other Plio-Pleistocene adult hominin humeri hitherto reported."2  Stature from it is 103 to 108 cm on the pygmy model, or 93 to 96 cm on an ape model, and every measurable Mata Menge piece is smaller than its Liang Bua counterpart by 1 to 21 per cent.2  Forty-seven stone flakes lay in the same layer, 149 in the trench.12  There is no skull.  That absence runs through everything below:  body size at Mata Menge is measured;  brain size at Mata Menge is not.

Callao Cave.  On Luzon, in the northern Philippines, a single foot bone from 2007 was joined in 2019 by twelve more pieces from the same layer:  seven upper cheek teeth, five of them from one individual and forming the type specimen, two finger bones, two toe bones and the shaft of a child's thigh bone.22  Two right upper third molars and the child's femur make at least three individuals.22  Uranium-series on the foot bone and one tooth gives minimum ages of 67 and 50 thousand years, and they are minimums because bone takes up uranium after burial.22  There is no skull, no jaw and no complete long bone, so the paper gives no brain size and no stature;  any height quoted for Homo luzonensis is reasoning from tooth size and is not in the paper.  The teeth are very small, the molars simplified like a modern human's, while the premolars have two and three roots, a pattern the describers say is typical of australopiths and early Homo and also occurs in Asian Homo erectus.22  One toe bone has the marked curvature and small head of an australopith's, "unlike African and European early Homo, H. naledi, H. neanderthalensis, H. floresiensis and H. sapiens."22  DNA extraction failed, "as is the case for most hominins recovered from tropical Asia."22  Thirteen pieces with no skull is thin ground for a species, and a creationist who says so has a fair point.  What the thirteen pieces do show is a mix of features no living human population has.

Part 2: A diseased modern human, or a small population?

The question was fair in 2004:  one skull, lopsided, with a village of short people beside the cave.  Four diagnoses followed, microcephaly in 2006, Laron syndrome in 2007, cretinism in 2008 and Down syndrome in 2014, and each is stated with its author's reason and tested in Homo floresiensis: The Disease Proposals.  The verdict is that all four fail, each on something specific.  Microcephaly failed on the wrist and the limbs:  LB1's trapezoid is the wedge of living apes where a modern human's is boot-shaped, its three wrist bones together show the pattern of African apes and of fossil hominins older than 1.7 million years,5 and those bones "arise in the mesenchyme in essentially their adult form by the 11th week of development,"5 while "growth-hormone-related dwarfism and microcephaly in modern humans result in normal limb and pelvic proportions."4  Laron syndrome failed because, on the one published test, most of the resemblances listed were not in the clinical literature.30  Cretinism failed on the brain, which its own authors wrote "is smaller than would be expected of a cretin,"6 and on the pituitary measurement behind one of their two statistical tests, which was taken "from expanded images of the LB1 endocast,"6 a published photograph, and was not reproduced on a scan of the skull.31  Peter Brown's reply that "a dramatic reduction in brain mass (>60%) has never featured in the clinical literature on human cretinism"31 is disputed by the cretinism authors, who say he misreports the brain sizes of cretins.32  Down syndrome failed because adult brains in Down syndrome average 87 per cent of normal, which leaves LB1 far outside the range.77  Two of the four author groups answered their critics and held their ground:  the cretinism authors in 2012,32 and the Down syndrome authors, Henneberg and Eckhardt of the original Jacob group, in 2015 and 2021.3334  No reply from the Laron syndrome authors was found.  Three things answer all four at once.  Cretinism and Down syndrome are not known to make a brain this small, and microcephaly, which does, leaves the wrist and the limb proportions those of a modern human.5  None of the four is known to build an ape-pattern wrist in the eleventh week.  And a disease belongs to an individual, while the small form has two jaws, two shin bones, wrist bones from two individuals35 and a second site.  The critics were right about four things that stay in the record:  one skull, real asymmetry, a volume of 430 ml that came closer to the micro-CT value of 426 than the describers' 380 or 417,89 and modern humans who really did become short on this island, the Rampasasa at 145 cm.10

Part 3: The dates, and what the 2016 revision corrected

The original reading.  The 2004 description reported that LB1 "is associated with calibrated accelerator mass spectrometry (AMS) dates of approximately 18 kyr and bracketed by luminescence dates of 35 ± 4 kyr and 14 ± 2 kyr."1  The companion paper gave the methods and the span:  "Dating by radiocarbon (14C), luminescence, uranium-series and electron spin resonance (ESR) methods indicates that H. floresiensis existed from before 38,000 years ago (kyr) until at least 18 kyr."36  The radiocarbon samples were charcoal from the trench that held the skeleton, which the 2016 paper describes as "dated to between about 19 and 13–11 kyr cal. BP."11  The 2005 paper extended the population to "the interval 95–74 to 12 thousand years ago."4  Those numbers made a hobbit alive 12,000 years ago, overlapping modern humans on Flores by tens of thousands of years, and that overlap is what made "a sick modern human" physically possible on the conventional clock.

What the new trenches found.  Between 2007 and 2014 the same team dug between and south of the old sectors and found what the first trenches had missed.  The hobbit-bearing sediments and the five volcanic ash layers over them form a pedestal up to 4 m thick.  "The pedestal deposits have been truncated by one or more phases of erosion, resulting in an erosional surface (i.e., an unconformity) that slopes steeply down towards the cave mouth."11  Much younger sediment, with three more ash layers of its own, was later banked against and over that slope.  In the authors' words:  "This unconformity was not recognised during the 2001–2004 excavations, raising serious questions about the accuracy of previous age estimates … for H. floresiensis, which were based on inferred stratigraphic associations."11  Then the sentence that explains the twelve years:  "all of the charcoal samples used previously to infer ages of ~18 kyr cal. BP for LB1 and about 17 or 13–11 kyr cal. BP as the terminus ante quem for H. floresiensis and Stegodon … originate from deposits that unconformably overlie the remnant pedestal, based on their plotted coordinates."11  The charcoal was dated correctly.  It was the wrong charcoal.  The younger sequence began to accumulate about 20,000 years ago, and its own luminescence and radiocarbon ages, 23 ± 7 and about 12.7 thousand years, say so.11  The 2003 luminescence samples that had bracketed LB1 were also compromised:  taken "from alongside LB1 and ~1 m above it," they were probably collected across the unconformity, and single feldspar grains from them spread "from about 170 to 10 kyr ago."11

The new chronology.  The pedestal was then dated by six kinds of measurement on six materials, resting on four different physical clocks.  Luminescence on the sediment under the first ash layer:  "statistically indistinguishable weighted mean IRSL and TL ages (± 1σ) of 65 ± 5 kyr (LB12-OSL3 to -OSL6) and 71 ± 13 kyr," with 89 ± 7 kyr for the basal hobbit layer and 128 ± 17 and 113 ± 9 kyr for the gravel beneath it.11  Uranium-thorium on four cave formations inside the hobbit layers:  "between 80.8 ± 0.8 and 58.3 ± 0.5 kyr."11  Uranium-series on the hobbit bones themselves, three ulnae:  "from 86.9 ± 7.9 to 71.5 ± 4.3 kyr for LB1 (Sectors VII and XI), 71.4 ± 1.1 to 66.7 ± 0.8 kyr for LB2 (Sector IV), and 66.0 ± 4.3 to 54.6 ± 2.1 kyr for LB6 (Sector XI)," and these are minimums, because "owing to the open system behaviour of bone, such analyses usually yield minimum ages for bone deposition and subsequent uranium uptake."1111  Argon-argon on hornblende from the ash lying directly on the hobbit layers:  79 ± 12 kyr, "imprecise due to the low yield of radiogenic argon from the hornblende crystals, but the 2σ age range (103–55 kyr) is consistent with the luminescence and 234U/230Th ages for the underlying samples."11  And radiocarbon on charcoal lying on the fifth ash, about 46 thousand years.11  The conclusion:  "All skeletal remains assigned to H. floresiensis are from the pedestal deposits dated to approximately 100–60 kyr ago, while stone artefacts reasonably attributable to this species range from about 190 kyr … to 50 kyr in age."11  Whether the hobbits lasted longer, or met modern humans, "remain open questions that future discoveries may help answer."11

Fair to both sides.  A date in Nature stood for twelve years and was wrong by a factor of four to five.  Peter Line calls the episode an illustration of "the fickle nature of age estimates obtained from dating methods,"13 and the point that the correction was convenient for the species camp, which had been embarrassed by hobbits alive alongside modern humans, is fair as rhetoric.  Against that:  it was found and published by the people it embarrassed, after they re-dug their own site;  no radiocarbon age was withdrawn, since the charcoal is still about 18,000 years old on that method and merely belongs to a different deposit;  and the bones were then dated directly.  So the thing that failed was a stratigraphic association across a trench wall, which is a mistake of excavation, not of physics.  The young-earth reader should also notice what the error did not do.  Before the correction the hobbit was 18,000 years old;  after it, 60,000 to 100,000.  The two mainstream positions in the twelve-year dispute were both more than four times older than any Flood date, and the correction moved the fossil further away, not closer.

A young-earth reader will ask whether the six measurements are independent.  They are independent in material and in what is measured:  trapped charge in quartz and in feldspar, argon in hornblende, thorium growing into calcite and into bone, carbon-14 in charcoal.  All but luminescence depend on constant decay rates.  Luminescence depends on the dose rate in the sediment, most of which comes from the decay of uranium, thorium and potassium there, so it is not free of decay rates either.  A uniform acceleration of nuclear decay would shorten all six ages.  Whether it would shorten them in the same ratio, so that they still agree with one another and stay in stratigraphic order, is a claim someone on that side would have to model.  That argument belongs to the luminescence, uranium-series and radiocarbon articles and is not redone here.

Mata Menge.  The fossil layer, a river sandstone, lies between volcanic deposits.  Below it:  0.80 ± 0.07 Ma by zircon fission-track 12.5 m under the find, 0.90 ± 0.07 Ma by glass fission-track, and 0.81 ± 0.04 Ma by argon-argon.12  Above it, 13.5 m up, a pyroclastic bed "produced a 40Ar/39Ar weighted mean age of 0.65 ± 0.02 Ma from single crystal dating of hornblende," in accord with "the published ZFT age of a basaltic tephra inter-bed from the lower part of the GLM (0.65 ± 0.06 Ma)."12  In the layer itself, "U-series dating of the hominin tooth root independently confirms this specimen was deposited at least 0.55 Ma, whereas combined U-series/ESR indicates minimum and maximum ages of around 0.36 Ma and 0.69 Ma, respectively, for the Stegodon molars."12  Three decay systems on different minerals, in stratigraphic order across 26 m of section, with a trapped-charge method on teeth from the fossil bed agreeing.  Further afield, stone tools lie on Flores under an ignimbrite dated 1.02 Ma,37 a rhinoceros was butchered on Luzon at about 709 thousand years,38 and tools on Sulawesi run from before 200 to about 100 thousand years.39  The first two are argued in the Homo erectus article.

The mainstream disagreement here is between an arrival at about 1 million years with dwarfing complete by 700 thousand, and the various readings of where in that span the change fell.  Every position in that dispute is more than 140 times older than a Flood four to five thousand years ago.  "Even the scientists disagree" buys a young-earth reader nothing from it.

No young-earth source dates either site.  This is a negative claim, so it rests on searches.  The full text of creation.com, of the Creation Research Society Quarterly archive, of the Answers in Genesis site and of the Institute for Creation Research site was searched for "Liang Bua", "Mata Menge", "floresiensis", "Callao" and "luzonensis", and each mention in the articles returned was read;  the counts are in a note.40  None of those articles assigns Liang Bua or Mata Menge a date in years, and none reinterprets any of the measurements above.  Most reject the dates and stop.  Line:  "From the creation viewpoint, both the old and new dates are rejected, and so have little bearing on the interpretation of Homo floresiensis presented here."13  Elizabeth Mitchell of Answers in Genesis:  "We do not know exactly when various people groups reached places like Flores after dispersion from the Tower of Babel; however, when human history is understood in the light of the reliable history provided in God's Word, the vast temporal separations postulated by these scientists, as well as the 700,000 year age assigned to the new Mata Menge hobbit-like fossils, fall by the wayside."41  Marvin Lubenow set the dates aside on the authority of the RATE project,42 and added a second ground, that "local folktales suggest that little people were living in caves on some Indonesian islands when the first Dutch explorers arrived in the 16th century."42  Carl Wieland's follow-up of 8 November 2004 relayed Teuku Jacob's statement to the Jakarta Post that the skeleton "lived about 1,300 to 1,800 years ago," and wrote that CMI's view "is not harmed, if anything the opposite, by this Indonesian opinion."43  Rupe and Sanford:  "So at this point the age for these bones could range anywhere from 1,000 to 1 million years old, based on conventional dating methods."19  Two sources go further and give the skeleton a place, and the two places are on opposite sides of the Flood.

Kurt Wise argued in 2005 that since Homo erectus is human and spread across three continents, which could only happen after Babel, "both Lower and Upper Pleistocene sediments are post-Babel in age."3  He then bracketed the radiocarbon date.  LB1's 18,000 radiocarbon years are "substantially younger than the C-14 dates of Flood carbon (40-60 ka.: Giem 2001; Baumgardner, et al. 2003) but older than C-14 dates which actually correspond with dendrochronological dates on Bristlecone Pines (2-3 ka.)," so the skeleton lies "between the Flood and ca 1000 B.C. (the time of David)."3  He added that "young-age creationists have not yet reinterpreted most of the absolute dating technologies employed for dating the Flores skeleton."3  That is a window, honestly labelled, and it rested on the 18,000-year radiocarbon date, which the excavators later showed belongs to younger sediment;  the bones now have uranium ages and no radiocarbon age of their own.  Joel Klenck, writing in the Creation Research Society Quarterly in 2010, put the same skeleton before the Flood.  In his model every non-modern human form, the hobbit included, "should be interpreted as Nephilim or populations genetically influenced by the Nephilim," and all of them died in the Flood.14  His Figure 2, captioned "Just before the Flood," shows LB1.14  So the only two young-earth placements of this skeleton that the searches found differ by the whole Flood, and neither author has answered the other.  On Luzon, CMI places the butchered rhinoceros of the Cagayan Valley "relatively early post-Flood" while "not accepting these age dates."27

What nobody on that side has addressed is the order, which needs no clock at all.  The Mata Menge fossil layer is a thin stream sandstone cut into an old soil "with prominent root traces."  Over it lie up to 6.5 m of mudflow deposits, and above those the lake beds that cap the basin, thin limestones and clays holding "at least 85" separate layers of basaltic ash.  The ash numbered second of them lies 13.5 m above the fossils.1212  The Liang Bua hobbits lie under a stack of five ashes, an erosion surface, and the sediments of modern people.  A young-earth account would have to say where in the So'a Basin the Flood boundary lies, how long the lake beds took, and how long separates Mata Menge from Liang Bua.  The following figures are for scale only, since no young-earth source gives one.  If the lake beds were given 500 years, 85 ash falls would be one every six years for the whole time, with lake limestone and clay settling between each.  If they were given the whole of Wise's window from the Flood to David, about 1,330 years, it would be one every sixteen years, with nothing left for the rest of the Pleistocene.44  That is a question about volcanoes and mud, not about isotopes, and it is the kind of question a young-earth reader would accept.  No creationist source found has asked it.

Part 4: Island dwarfing, in brief

Whether a human population could shrink to LB1's size inside a young-earth window, and whether any population could shrink to its brain, is priced in Homo floresiensis: Island Dwarfing and the Small Brain.  The numbers a reader most needs are these.  Island dwarfing is measured:  Jersey red deer "became reduced to one sixth of their body weight in less than six thousand years,"15 and the dwarf hippos of Madagascar have brains "up to 30% smaller than those of a mainland African ancestor scaled to equivalent body mass."16  The deer's six thousand years is the length of the island's isolation, so it is a ceiling on the time, and the rate drawn from it is a floor:  "a minimum and therefore conservative estimate of the evolutionary rate."45  On the conventional clock the hobbit's body-size change needs selection that removes about one person in a thousand per generation.46

No creationist source says how many years or generations the hobbit's dwarfing took.  Wise brackets the skeleton between the Flood and about 1000 B.C.,3 and on pace he says only that the human lineages "changed rapidly in post-Babel times" and, of animals, that diversification came "within a few centuries of the Flood."3  The dwarfing article therefore prices windows of 250, 500 and 1,000 years, which are its own scale figures and which no creationist source states for the hobbit, at a generation of 25 years, which is its assumption.  On those windows the body needs the largest 35, 16 and 7 per cent of every generation to leave no children.  The nearest measured case for so few generations is a selection experiment, not the deer:  laboratory mice selected for small size in every generation for 23 generations.47  The 1,000-year window needs three quarters of the rate those mice reached, and the 250-year window needs three times it.  On the model's full span the change is cheap, and what forbids spending the full span is the stratigraphy of Part 3.

The brain is the harder problem.  Run the hippo rule on a typical Homo erectus of 991 cc and it lands at 493 cc, "still larger than the actual value of H. floresiensis."  Run it on smaller erectus skulls and it arrives:  804 cc gives 405, and the 650 cc Dmanisi skull gives 378.16  One larger loss is on record, a brain "reduced by up to 50%" in the Mallorcan goat-antelope Myotragus, which the same authors set aside because its link with dwarfing is disputed and its ancestry uncertain.16  Human body scaling says the same.  From the earliest Javan erectus at 860 cc it gives 400 to 649 cc depending on the slope, which the authors read as body size alone explaining 63 to 90 per cent of the reduction on the slopes they prefer.9  Their conclusion is that the Javan route "was possible in terms of brain size," with up to half the loss left to something other than body size.99  From Homo habilis at 614 cc the same slopes give 378 to 488 cc, with 426 inside, on body scaling alone.9  Nothing published gets a modern-sized brain to 426 cc.

So the starting population decides most of the answer, and not all of it.  The habilis sum works only because the body shrinks, from a 42 mm femoral head to LB1's 31 mm, which is most of the distance from the 45 to 50 mm of a Javan erectus.9  And the team holding the Mata Menge jaw and molars concludes that "the hypothesis that H. floresiensis is a direct lineal descendant of H. habilis s.l. is not supported."2  Almost every creationist source counts erectus as human, and Todd Wood's 2010 baraminology adds Homo habilis.17  Wieland, Wise, and Rupe and Sanford name erectus as the ancestor,18319 but none of the sources in Part 6 says how large its brain was or runs the numbers, and none of those the dwarfing article read applies Wood's result to the hobbit.

Part 5: Tools, hunting, fire and the sea

Tools.  Stone flakes are real and continuous.  Forty-seven lay in the Mata Menge fossil layer.12  In 2006 Adam Brumm's team described 507 artefacts from Mata Menge and reported "specific similarities, and apparent technological continuity" with the tools from the hobbit levels at Liang Bua.20  That, they wrote, "negates claims that stone artefacts associated with H. floresiensis are so complex that they must have been made by modern humans (Homo sapiens)."20  The claim it answers had a real source.  The excavators' own 2004 paper had reported a "more formal component" among the tools, "including . . . blades and microblades," and Robert Martin's team argued later in 2006 that such tools belong only with Homo sapiens.48  Wieland's "sophisticated stone tools" and Rupe and Sanford's "impressive cultural inventory (an array of sophisticated stone tools)" follow that 2004 description and not the team's 2006 reading that set it aside.19  The raw material tells the same story.  In the hobbit layers the tools are about 80 per cent silicified tuff and 20 per cent chert, "in contrast to the preference of modern humans for chert (~60%) observed at Liang Bua during the Holocene,"11 and an abrupt shift to chert at about 46 thousand years is read as the arrival of modern people.49

Hunting.  The 2005 paper reports cut marks on Stegodon bone and "the butchery of Stegodon."4  The 2009 study of the cave's animal bones says in its abstract that "the accumulation of Stegodon and Komodo dragon remains at the site in the Pleistocene is attributed to Homo floresiensis."50  How many bones carry cut marks, and how the marks were told from tooth marks, is in the body of that paper and is not reported here.  The island also held three-metre Komodo monitors and crocodiles from the earliest record onward, so the small people were not without predators.2

Fire.  In 2005:  "Use of fire by hominins is indicated by charred bone and clusters of reddened and fire-cracked rocks."4  That claim did not survive re-examination by members of the same team.  Mike Morley's 2017 thin-section study of the cave sediment, with Sutikna and Roberts, both authors of the 2005 paper, among its own authors, found real hearths and dated them:  "we identify anthropogenic signs of fire-use at the site between 41 and 24 thousand years ago, most likely related to the presence of modern humans."21  It then took the 2005 evidence apart piece by piece.  "The 'charred bones' initially reported by Morwood et al. (2004, 2005) within the H. floresiensis-bearing deposits are clearly the result of manganese staining, and no definitive evidence of burnt faunal remains has been recovered during subsequent excavations of these deposits."  The reddened and fire-cracked rocks, on analysis, "were not exposed to any significant heat source."  And under 1 per cent of the stone tools found with the hobbit show exposure to fire, against almost 18 per cent of those from the Holocene levels.21  The authors' own conclusion is hedged, that fire at Liang Bua "is more likely a behavioural signature of modern humans than of H. floresiensis."21  The university's press release put it flatly:  "no evidence for the use of fire by Homo floresiensis during roughly 130,000 years of presence at the site has been found."51  Three creationist sources rest the hobbit's humanity on fire.  Lubenow:  "the cultural artifacts associated with them are things that only true humans produce—stone tools and fire."42  Rupe and Sanford:  "Among the excavated remains were found charred bones and a circular hearth of stones revealing controlled use of fire and cooking."19  And Line, writing five years after Morley, still says the Liang Bua toolmakers "were able to use fire and hunt dwarfed stegodonts," on the authority of a 2005 magazine article.13  Fire is gone from the hobbit levels.  Whether stone tools alone are "things that only true humans produce" is argued, for tools older than any Homo fossil, in Lucy and the Pre-Human Hominins.

Symbols.  None.  "No pigments or symbolic items were found, in contrast with Holocene occupation levels."4

The end.  Hobbits, the dwarf Stegodon, a giant stork and a vulture all vanish from the sequence by about 50 thousand years, and the excavators say that "the specific processes that ultimately resulted in the extinction of these taxa and H. floresiensis remain poorly understood."1149

The sea.  Flores, Sulawesi and Luzon were never joined to the mainland.  "As is the case with the island of Flores, a substantial sea crossing has always been required to reach Luzon from any mainland, even during the lowest sea level periods of the Quaternary period."22  Three islands, three crossings.  How they were made is unknown and both sides have a position.  The excavators now prefer accident:  the first Flores hominins arrived "probably unintentionally (i.e., through accidental 'rafting', perhaps on tsunami debris)."2  The creationist side has argued boats since before the hobbit was found;  Lubenow's 2004 book quotes the 1998 tool paper for the conclusion that Homo erectus "was capable of repeated water crossings using watercraft,"52 and Rupe and Sanford put the objection to rafting that deserves an answer:  "while it could happen to a stray individual, it would be extremely unlikely to transport a viable breeding population. The more reasonable alternative is that Hobbit arrived by sailing."19  That is a real point, and three separate islands make repeated accident less comfortable than one.  Against the boat reading:  no vessel has been found, and the same crossings were made by Stegodon, rats and Komodo monitors.  Neither side has computed the minimum founding party against what a mat of debris can carry, and this article does not pretend to.  The argument is owned by the Homo erectus article, whose verdict in a sentence is that the behaviour at Luzon and on Flores is human behaviour, that the excavators do not know who the toolmakers were, and that they do not say boats.

Part 6: The creationist positions, in their own words

The literature is not uniform, and it has moved.  One table, then the two disputes it hides, then the places where a source misstates what it cites.  The table lists the sources that give a verdict;  the searches that found them are in the note on chronology in Part 3.

Source Verdict on the hobbit Cause of small size
Wieland 2004, CMI human, a dwarfed erectus island selection on existing genes, perhaps a stunting mutation
Wise 2005, BSG human, a healthy post-Babel population programmed developmental change, founder effect, drift
Line 2006, CMI human microcephaly; "post-Babel human pathological variation"
CMI, August 2006 human; "even more likely … a diseased modern human" pathology; either reading acceptable
Lubenow 2006 and 2007, AiG human pygmy or microcephalic, undecided
Thomas 2008, ICR human; "diminutive, not diseased" a variety of man
Klenck 2010, CRSQ human, of Nephilim descent, living before the Flood not addressed
Wood 2010 and 2016 not placed by statistics in 2010; provisionally human in 2016 not addressed
Mitchell 2016, AiG human, an archaic variety an unidentified growth disorder, island dwarfing or inbreeding, after Babel
Rupe and Sanford 2017 human, an "extreme version of Erectus" island dwarfing, inbreeding, "reductive selection," plus pathology
O'Micks 2017, ARJ not human; "an australopith" not applicable
Thomas 2020, ICR human microcephaly
Sinclair and Wood 2021, ARJ unresolved not addressed
Line 2022, Journal of Creation human endemic cretinism, perhaps in an erectus-type population

The first dispute is about disease.  Wieland's first reaction was the dwarfed-population view:  "The researchers who discovered the Flores bones apparently think that they are dwarfed descendants of Homo erectus. We would agree,"18 with the note that these were "those of a (miniature) Homo erectus, a variant of the modern type, but within the human kind."18  By August 2006, on the strength of Jacob's paper, CMI wrote that "it is now even more likely that this is a diseased modern human, rather than a dwarfed erectus," while holding that "either conclusion would make little difference to the obvious conclusion that the 'Hobbit' remains were those of a fully human descendant of Adam."23  Line wrote the same year that LB1 "is a reflection of post–Babel human pathological variation,"53 and in 2022, with cretinism, that "if some Homo floresiensis individuals were cretins, their morphological features may still have differed. It is likely that only a relatively small percentage were cretins."13  Lubenow called both readings "compatible with young-earth creationism" and did not choose.42  ICR's Brian Thomas chose against disease in 2008:  "diminutive, not diseased, people."54  In 2020 the same author wrote the opposite for the same institute, that "later work showed an excellent match between Hobbit and people today who have microcephaly," citing Martin's 2006 paper and the 2007 Laron-syndrome paper.55  Mitchell, a physician, leaned against disease in 2016, accepting Baab's rebuttal of Down syndrome and reading the Mata Menge fossils as a population, "not a few diseased outliers among the island's population."41  Her last paragraph still leaves open that "the entire population manifested some sort of yet-to-be-identified growth disorder, island dwarfism, or genetically inbred characteristics."41  So by 2008 the three large ministries had three different answers, one of them has since changed sides, and in 2022 CMI's specialist still holds cretinism, which Homo floresiensis: The Disease Proposals shows failed on the brain and the pituitary measurement in 2012, though its authors replied the same year and held their ground.

The second dispute is about whether it is human at all.  O'Micks:  "H. floresiensis might well be another example of a fossil ape, based on both cranial and post-cranial characteristics (similar to H. naledi), mistaken to be a diminutive archaic human."24  Against him, every other source in the table, and Sinclair and Wood's refusal to decide.  If O'Micks is right, then the flakes at Mata Menge, the butchered Stegodon, and three sea crossings are the work of an ape, which is a conclusion the rest of the creationist literature uses the same evidence to deny.

The Luzon split.  The same thirteen bones got opposite verdicts from two of the largest young-earth ministries in the same year.  Ken Ham, quoting the anatomist David Menton:  "'This is absolutely not Homo. It's an ape.' Dr. Menton notes that the finger and toe bones bear no resemblance to human fingers and toes, but do resemble the highly curved fingers and toes of Australopithecus."26  Matthew Cserhati, Peter Line and Joel Tay for CMI:  "None of the bones have features which resemble only australopithecines. From the scant evidence there is at this point no reason to think that H. luzonensis is not human. It could be that H. luzonensis is very similar to H. floresiensis and both are human, likely belonging to the Negrito population living in the Philippines."27  CMI's caution is the better starting point:  "The number of bones is too few to draw any definitive conclusion."27  But neither side has a criterion.  Answers in Genesis calls the hobbit human although its wrist and foot are primitive, and calls the Luzon form an ape because its toe is.  CMI says no Luzon bone resembles only an australopith and never discusses either toe bone, one of which the describers call "essentially indistinguishable from the features of A. afarensis and A. africanus."22  Its "likely belonging to the Negrito population" rests on one bone, the foot bone found in 2007, which it says "overlaps with the range of variation measured for Philippine Negritos."27  The teeth point the other way.  The describers call multiple robust, divergent premolar roots "rare in H. sapiens," and a three-rooted fourth premolar, which one of the Luzon teeth may be, is found in 1 to 3 per cent of living people.22  A third young-earth writer has since taken the consistent way out, in the other direction.  Christopher Rupe, in the Creation Research Society Quarterly in 2026, calls the Luzon form "the small-bodied human, H. luzonensis" and argues that "curved fingers and toes should not be considered a diagnostic trait since they can occur in humans," in a paper whose thesis is that Lucy was human too.56  A rule that makes the hobbit human and the Luzon form an ape, from bones that are primitive in the same way and found with butchered animals in the same way, has not been written down by anyone.

Where a creationist source misstates what it cites

Each is quoted beside the passage it misstates.  The aim is to be exact, and fair.

Ham 2019, printing David Menton's notes, cuts three sentences short.  Ken Ham's article prints the anatomist's notes bone by bone.  On premolar roots:  "They point out that the premolars 'display several primitive features. . . . [the] premolars have multiple roots that are robust and highly divergent, an archaic condition typically found in Australopithecus.'"26  The paper's sentence does not end there.  It reads:  "H. luzonensis premolars have multiple roots (P3 has three, P4 has two) that are robust and highly divergent, an archaic condition typically found in Australopithecus, Paranthropus and early Homo. Multiple robust and divergent premolar roots also occur in Asian H. erectus (Early Pleistocene Indonesian and Middle Pleistocene Chinese specimens), but are rare in H. sapiens and absent in H. floresiensis."22  The quotation stops at "Australopithecus" with a full stop, dropping "Paranthropus and early Homo," and omits the next sentence, which says the same roots occur in Asian Homo erectus, a form Answers in Genesis itself classes as human.41  In fairness, the same article goes on to quote Gabriela Haynes, a palaeontologist on its staff, who does name the rest of the list and gives a reason for setting it aside:  the paper's comparisons are with "Australopithecus, Paranthropus, or 'early' Homo, as they call it, which would be ape-like."26  What no part of the article mentions is Asian Homo erectus.  It also omits that the molars are small and modern in their simplified crowns, which is the other half of the paper's mosaic.  CMI quotes the same passage correctly:  "The premolars have multiple robust roots, and resemble those of Australopithecus and Paranthropus. However, they also resemble those of Indonesian Homo erectus, which almost all creationists agree is human."27  Two more quotations in the same notes are cut the same way.  Of the middle finger bone, Menton quotes "shares shape affinities with Australopithecus" and stops;  the paper's sentence runs on, "H. floresiensis and—to a lesser extent—H. sapiens," and calls the bone "long and narrow (unlike all hominins except H. sapiens)."22  Of the finger-tip bone, he quotes the diagnosis, "proportions unlike those of early Homo/Paranthropus, Homo naledi, H. florensis and H. neanderthalensis," and concludes, "This is clearly not a human finger."26  The paper's description of that bone says its proportions "are within the ranges of variation for H. sapiens and Australopithecus."22  The curved toe bone Menton reports accurately, and he grants that the thigh shaft says nothing either way.  So the "ape" verdict rests on one curved toe bone fairly reported, a foot bone with one feature also seen in an australopith, and three quotations cut short of the words that point to Homo.

O'Micks 2017 doubts a bipedality the describers assert, on a premise their paper reverses.  He writes that the hobbit has "thigh bones which are less obliquely aligned than those of humans. The oblique thigh bones are a crucial postcranial character, since the alignment of the thigh bones influences gait and body posture, making it possible that H. floresiensis wasn't even bipedal."24  The describing paper says the opposite about the thigh bone:  "Distally there is a relatively high bicondylar angle of 14°, which overlaps with that found in Australopithecus."1  The bicondylar angle is the slant of the thigh bone in toward the knee, so a high one is a more oblique thigh bone, not a less oblique one.  The same paper's diagnosis opens with the words "Small-bodied bipedal hominin,"1 and the foot paper states that "The postcranial anatomy of H. floresiensis is that of a biped."57  None of the primary descriptions read for this article suggests otherwise.  His statistics also rest on less than his abstract suggests.  Of his three datasets only one includes the hobbit, and its pairing with Australopithecus africanus there rests on five shoulder-and-arm characters.24

Rupe and Sanford 2017, on four points.  First, the method:  the discoverers claimed a species "that lived 18,000 years ago, based on carbon-14 dating of the surrounding limestone."19  The dates were on charcoal,111 and the cave's limestone was not dated at all.  Second, the brain.  The chapter first reports the scan paper nearly as it stands:  "Their comparative analysis revealed that Hobbit looked most similar to Homo erectus—only smaller."19  The paper says it is not a smaller copy of anything:  "LB1's well-convoluted brain could not have been a miniaturized version of the brain of either H. sapiens or H. erectus."28  By the chapter's conclusion the same result has become "endocast scans revealing a modern human brain."19  The paper's own summary is that the brain's size for the body "scales like that of an australopithecine, but its endocast shape resembles that of Homo erectus."28  The step from erectus-like to modern is the chapter's own, since its authors class erectus as Homo sapiens, and the reader is not told that the step was taken.  The chapter is right that Falk reports advanced features in the frontal pole and the temporal lobes.28  Third, the skeleton:  "an overall modern human anatomy."19  The arm-to-leg ratio is Lucy's,4 the wrist is the ape pattern,5 and the foot is "exceptionally long relative to the femur and tibia, proportions never before documented in hominins but seen in some African apes."57  The chapter names "flat-footedness" among features it puts down to pathology, and does not discuss the wrist bones or the length of the foot.  The fourth point is an omission and not a misstatement:  "The findings of José Alexandre and colleagues is almost a point for point confirmation of our assessment of Hobbit in this chapter. … 6) this process can occur relatively rapidly in small, isolated populations."19  The paper does say "over a relatively short time,"46 and the time it models is "approximately 2000–10 000 generations,"46 which the paper gives as 50,000 to 300,000 years.  The paper's ancestor is the one the chapter names, an erectus, with a brain it puts at about 775 cm³.46  The chapter gives no timescale of its own.  For scale only:  against the one window a young-earth source has stated, Wise's from the Flood to David, about 1,330 years, the shortest case the paper models is more than thirty-five times too long.  The paper tests nothing faster, so it neither confirms nor excludes a young-earth rate, and the chapter cites the conclusion without the timescale.  Their raft objection, quoted in Part 5, is the chapter's best point and stands.

Line 2022 argues cretinism without citing its rebuttal, and keeps the fire.  Line's 2022 reference list carries Obendorf 2008, Oxnard 2010 and Oxnard's 2012 rejoinder, and not Brown 2012, Baab 2013, Baab 2016, Falk 2007 or Falk 2009.13  A reader of Line would not learn that the pituitary fossa was measured off a photograph, or that measured on a scan of the skull it is about 8.5 mm long and inside the normal range.31  His brain arithmetic needs a parent population that is not in evidence:  "Congenital hypothyroidism is said to be able to 'reduce brain size by approximately 50%.' Oxnard argues that small parent populations in terms of brain size (e.g. pygmoid crania) could have given rise to cretins with brain sizes as small as 400 cc."13  He then quotes Oxnard's basis:  "normal South East Asian pygmoid crania of 800–1000 ml have been recorded."13  No sample is named there.  The one measured pygmy population beside the cave averages 1,270 ml,8 half of which is 635, not 426.  The 50 per cent itself is disputed:  Brown's clinical series contradict it,31 and the cretinism authors reply that he misreports those series.32  "Only a relatively small percentage were cretins" predicts ordinary-sized neighbours in the same layers, and there are none at either site.4  On Mata Menge, Line wrote before the arm bone was published that the jaw and teeth "do not reveal much except that there were small-jawed individuals living there,"13 which no longer describes the evidence.  On the dates he offers a rejection, not a chronology.  And on the 2018 genome study of the Rampasasa, he objects that it "is making the unproven evolutionary assumption that Homo floresiensis was a different species of human."13  That is half right.  The search itself was for any deeply divergent DNA in the villagers, whatever its source, and it found none.10  Reading that as "no hobbit ancestry" does assume the hobbit was deeply divergent, and a hobbit that was genetically an ordinary modern human, which is Line's model, would leave nothing for the test to find.  What the result does exclude is that the Rampasasa owe much of their ancestry to a lineage as distinct as the Neanderthals and Denisovans, whose traces the same study did find in them.

Two smaller points.  Wood's 2010 statement that creationists "agree" the hobbit is human was true when written and false by 2017;  that is dating, not error.17  And Wieland's 2004 remark on the soft bones, "One would think that given this, long-agers would themselves get a bit wary about the ages assigned to them,"18 is a fair observation and not a dating argument:  bone in a wet cave need not mineralise on any timescale, the 2016 work dated the bones directly, and the same uranium method run on a modern human bone from the cave's Holocene layers gave an age consistent with the charcoal above and below it.11

Objections and responses

"The date was wrong by a factor of five once.  Why believe it now?"  Because the thing that was wrong is known and is not a clock.  The charcoal still dates to about 18,000 years;  it came from sediment banked against the hobbit beds, not from them.  The new ages come from six measurements on different materials, including the hobbit bones themselves, and agree in stratigraphic order.  A reader who rejects all of them still has to account for the order:  five ashes over the skeletons, an erosion surface over the ashes, and modern people's sediment over that.

"The hobbit is an ape, so none of this is a problem for the human kind."  That is O'Micks's position and Sinclair and Wood could not confirm it.  Its price is paid elsewhere:  the flakes with the Mata Menge bones, the butchered Stegodon, and three sea crossings become the work of an ape, and the rest of the creationist literature uses exactly that evidence to say Homo erectus was human.  The describers' diagnosis is "Small-bodied bipedal hominin," and they place it in Homo on its facial and dental proportions, its chewing apparatus and "postcranial anatomy consistent with human-like obligate bipedalism."1

"The creationist literature is not obliged to agree with itself."  No, but it is obliged to notice when it does not.  Two ministries read thirteen Luzon bones in opposite ways in the same year.  Two camps on Flores need different amounts of change to the brain, from nothing beyond ordinary body scaling to the halving of it, and neither, in what was read, has stated the other's bill.  Disagreement is not the problem;  unpriced disagreement is.

"The mainstream disagrees too, about erectus versus early Homo."  It does, and this article and the dwarfing article give both.  Both put arrival at about a million years and the small form in place by 700 thousand.  That dispute runs entirely more than 140 times further back than any Flood date and gives a young-earth reader nothing.

"Unfossilised bones in a cave cannot be 60,000 years old."  Bone in a wet limestone cave need not mineralise on any timescale.  The 2016 team dated the hobbit bones directly by uranium-series and checked the method on a modern human bone from the Holocene layers of the same cave, where it agreed with the charcoal around it.

"Three laboratories failed to get DNA.  On a young age that should have worked."  The failure is real, though it reaches print only as a remark by email.  Debbie Argue of the Australian National University told Smithsonian Magazine in 2018:  "We have been unable to obtain DNA from Homo floresiensis. At least three ancient DNA labs have tried."58  The Luzon describers report the same for their bones and for "most hominins recovered from tropical Asia."22  It could cut either way.  Whether DNA should survive a few thousand years in a wet tropical cave is a question about decay kinetics and temperature that belongs to an ancient-DNA article, and this one does not price it.

Issues and unanswered questions

  • Two papers read as abstracts. The 2004 dating paper and the 2009 study of the animal bones were read only in their abstracts. Which samples gave 18,000 years is taken from the 2016 paper's account of them, and the number of cut-marked Stegodon bones is not reported here. Mata Menge's first fossil paper and the 2006 tool paper were also read as abstracts, and nothing is said from them that the abstracts do not say.
  • The crossing. Neither the rafting nor the boat reading has been computed: minimum founding party against what debris can carry.
  • The young-earth chronology. No source places the So'a Basin or the Liang Bua pedestal in years, and the two that place the skeleton put it on opposite sides of the Flood. The most useful next step on that side is the one Part 3 names: count the ash falls, at least 85 of them, and the lake beds between them against the historical eruption frequency of the Flores arc, which needs no isotope.
  • Wise's radiocarbon bracket and the charcoal on the fifth ash. Wise placed LB1 after the Flood because its radiocarbon age was far younger than the 40 to 60 thousand radiocarbon years he assigns to "Flood carbon." The charcoal lying on the fifth ash, above every hobbit bone, has a radiocarbon age of 42,500 ± 900 years, inside that range.11 On his own bracket that would put the hobbit beds at or before the Flood, against his placement of them after Babel. This is an inference from his numbers and not something he has been asked, and no young-earth source has addressed it.
  • The criterion. No creationist source states a rule that yields the hobbit as human and the Luzon form as an ape from bones that are primitive in the same way. Rupe's 2026 answer, that curved fingers and toes decide nothing, is consistent, and its price is that Lucy becomes human as well, against what Wood in 2010 called the "unanimity that Australopithecus is not human" among creationists.17

Verdict

The Flores bones are a real population, and every published diagnosis of a sick modern human failed on a specific measurement.  Two of the four author groups replied and held their ground, and neither, in what was read, produced a patient with a brain near LB1's.  That case, with what the critics got right, is made in Homo floresiensis: The Disease Proposals.

The dates fell once, by a factor of five, and what fell was a trench wall.  The charcoal was dated right and belonged to a younger deposit.  The bones have since been dated directly, the sequence by six measurements on different materials, and the Mata Menge layer by three decay systems in stratigraphic order.  No young-earth writer has dated either site in years.  Most reject the dates;  Kurt Wise places the skeleton after Babel and Joel Klenck before the Flood, and neither has answered the other.  The order of the rock, with at least 85 ash falls in the lake beds over the oldest fossils, needs no clock and has not been addressed.

Island dwarfing explains the body.  It does not explain the brain from a modern start under any published model, and from a typical erectus it does so only at the edge of one.  From the small erectus skulls of 650 to 860 cc, or from Homo habilis, which Todd Wood's baraminology counts as human, the published models do reach it.  From habilis they reach it on body scaling alone, but the body must still shrink most of the way, and the Mata Menge jaw and molars count against that ancestor.  Wieland, Wise, and Rupe and Sanford have named erectus in print;  none of them says how large its brain was or runs the numbers, and no treatment the dwarfing article read applies Wood's result to the hobbit.  The arithmetic and the cost are in Homo floresiensis: Island Dwarfing and the Small Brain.

On Luzon, thirteen bones with no skull are too few to settle much, and two ministries settled it in opposite directions in the same year, one of them by quotations cut short.  Until someone on that side writes down a rule that makes one primitive foot human and another ape, the Luzon verdicts are opinions.

The describers put the Flores form in Homo.  Nothing found since has moved it out, and nothing found since has made it a modern human.  Which young-earth model can carry it depends on a question that model has not answered, and the honest statement of the evidence is that the hobbit is waiting for the answer.

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      Page 1:  “An adult humerus is estimated to be 9 − 16% shorter and thinner than the type specimen of H. floresiensis dated to ~60,000 years ago, and is smaller than any other Plio-Pleistocene adult hominin humeri hitherto reported.” ↩ ↩

    2. 2b.

      Page 6:  “In all available measurements of the mandibular body, postcanine teeth (P3, M1/2 and M3) and distal humerus, the Mata Menge fossils reported here or previously are smaller than the Liang Bua H. floresiensis remains (LB1 and LB6/1) by 1–21% (Table 2). Stature estimates, based on humeral length of SOA-MM9 (211–220 mm) and LB1 (243 mm), are 103–108 cm and 121 cm, respectively, using the human pygmy model; or 93–96 cm and 102 cm, respectively, using the ape model.” ↩ ↩

    3. 2c.

      Page 10:  “The earliest Flores hominins appeared on this Wallacean island ~1.0–1.27 Ma, probably unintentionally (i.e., through accidental 'rafting', perhaps on tsunami debris), and possibly as part of the initial colonization of the Sunda Shelf region by early H. erectus. The Flores hominins experienced substantial body size reduction soon after this event (within ~300,000 years), despite the presence of large-bodied predators such as ~3 meter-long Komodo monitors and crocodiles from the earliest paleontological record ( ~ 1.4 Ma) onwards.” ↩ ↩ ↩

    4. 2d.

      Page 10:  “How the small brain size reported for the ~60,000 years old LB1 evolved still remains unknown.” ↩

    5. 2e.

      Page 8:  “Therefore, the current Mata Menge hominin assemblage includes at least four individuals including one adult, one adolescent/young adult, and two children (Table 1). The observation that all four (or more) individuals are extremely diminutive supports the argument that small body size was not an idiosyncratic (individual)”. ↩ ↩

    6. 2f.

      Page 8:  “Alternatively, if H. habilis s.l. was ancestral to Mata Menge/Liang Bua H. floresiensis, the latter would need to have experienced substantial molar size reduction of ~65–60% in mesiodistal and buccolingual crown diameters (from H. habilis means), and this accompanied by form changes comparable to the early Javanese H. erectus condition. Because no such allometric relationships are evident between molar crown size and form within H. habilis (Supplementary Note 6), the hypothesis that H. floresiensis is a direct lineal descendant of H. habilis s.l. is not supported.”  Page 10:  “the reported craniometric and odontometric analyzes which almost unanimously support strong affinities of H. floresiensis with H. erectus (particularly early H. erectus from Java)”.  Page 8 also reports that the 2016 jaw and first or second molar, and now the third molar, are closer in shape to early Javan Homo erectus than to Australopithecus and Homo habilis. ↩ ↩

  3. 3.

    Wise, Kurt P.  “The Flores Skeleton and Human Baraminology.”  Occasional Papers of the BSG 6:1–13.  Nov 2, 2005.  The one young-earth paper that gives the hobbit a place in a chronology and a mechanism other than disease or island selection.  Wise is a Harvard-trained palaeontologist and the leading young-earth theorist of post-Flood diversification.  Written eleven years before the Mata Menge fossils.

    1. 3a.

      Page 2:  “Since post-Flood trans-continental distribution of humans did not occur until after Babel, we can deduce that H. erectus represents an early post-Babel morphology and we then deduce that both Lower and Upper Pleistocene sediments are post-Babel in age. Given that the Flores skeleton was found in Upper Pleistocene sediments, it follows that it would date from slightly later post-Flood (and post-Babel) times.” ↩

    2. 3b.

      Page 2:  “Lying between the Flood and ca 1000 B.C. (the time of David), the C-14 dates of LB 1 are consistent with a post-Babel date for the specimen. Thus although young-age creationists have not yet reinterpreted most of the absolute dating technologies employed for dating the Flores skeleton, a post-Babel patriarchal date is a very likely one.” ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩

    3. 3c.

      Page 2:  “The C-14 dates associated with the Flores skeleton (ca. 18 ka.) are substantially younger than the C-14 dates of Flood carbon (40-60 ka.: Giem 2001; Baumgardner, et al. 2003) but older than C-14 dates which actually correspond with dendrochronological dates on Bristlecone Pines (2-3 ka.) (e.g. Aardsma, 1992. Figure 3.2). Lying between the Flood and ca 1000 B.C. (the time of David), the C-14 dates of LB 1 are consistent with a post-Babel date for the specimen.” ↩ ↩

    4. 3d.

      Page 5:  “if H. floriensis is not only a descendant of the erectines (probably the Indonesian erectines: Brown, et al. 2004, p. 1058) but also occupied a narrow geographical area (the Island of Flores), the Flores skeleton probably represents a more recent morphology of one lineage that dispersed from Babel.”  "floriensis" is the source's spelling. ↩ ↩

    5. 3e.

      Page 5:  “I propose that the developmental programs of many of the Babel lineages changed rapidly in post-Babel times, creating a number of unique morphologies around the world.”  Page 7:  “Early post-Flood records (e.g. in Job and Genesis) of specialized taxa (e.g. camels, lions) suggest that intrabaraminic diversification was extremely rapid (within a few centuries of the Flood).”  The second passage is about animals and plants, not people. ↩

  4. 4.

    Morwood, Michael J. et al.  “Further evidence for small-bodied hominins from the Late Pleistocene of Flores, Indonesia.”  Nature 437(7061):1012–1017.  Oct 13, 2005.  The second season's finds:  LB1's right humerus and ulna, a second adult mandible (LB6/1), a very small adult tibia (LB8), and scattered bones of at least nine individuals.  Its claims of a 12,000-year terminus and of fire use were later withdrawn or unsupported.  Morwood led the Liang Bua project until his death in 2013. ↩

    1. 4a.

      Page 1012:  “The excavation also yielded more evidence for the depositional history of the cave and for the behavioural capabilities of H. floresiensis, including the butchery of Stegodon and use of fire.” ↩

    2. 4b.

      Page 1012:  “The finds further demonstrate that LB1 is not just an aberrant or pathological individual, but is representative of a long-term population that was present during the interval 95–74 to 12 thousand years ago.” ↩

    3. 4c.

      Page 1012:  “In contrast, none of the hominin remains recovered from the Pleistocene deposits are of modern humans. Instead, all diagnostic hominin elements are consistent with H. floresiensis size and morphology (Table 1). In total, there are now at least nine such individuals represented in the excavated finds from Sectors IV, VII and XI.” ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩

    4. 4d.

      Page 1012:  “Use of fire by hominins is indicated by charred bone and clusters of reddened and fire-cracked rocks.” ↩

    5. 4e.

      Page 1012:  “However, no pigments or symbolic items were found, in contrast with Holocene occupation levels.” ↩ ↩

    6. 4f.

      Page 1016:  “For example, the humerofemoral index ((humerus length × 100)/femur length) of 85.4 is outside the range of variation for H. sapiens, but is the same as AL 288-1 A. afarensis, and midway between the indices for apes and humans.” ↩ ↩

    7. 4g.

      Page 1016:  “Abnormal growth seems an unlikely explanation, as growth-hormone-related dwarfism and microcephaly in modern humans result in normal limb and pelvic proportions.” ↩

  5. 5.

    Tocheri, Matthew W. et al.  “The Primitive Wrist of Homo floresiensis and Its Implications for Hominin Evolution.”  Science 317(5845):1743–1745.  Sep 21, 2007.  Three-dimensional shape analysis of three of LB1's wrist bones against modern humans, Neanderthals, early Homo, australopiths and African apes.  Tocheri, then at the Smithsonian, is a specialist in the primate wrist.  Six of the ten authors were members of the Liang Bua excavation team.

    1. 5a.

      Page 1743:  “Analysis of three wrist bones from the holotype specimen (LB1) shows that it retains wrist morphology that is primitive for the African ape-human clade. In contrast, Neandertals and modern humans share derived wrist morphology that forms during embryogenesis, which diminishes the probability that pathology could result in the normal primitive state. This evidence indicates that LB1 is not a modern human with an undiagnosed pathology or growth defect; rather, it represents a species descended from a hominin ancestor that branched off before the origin of the clade that includes modern humans, Neandertals, and their last common ancestor.” ↩

    2. 5b.

      Page 1744:  “In modern humans, the trapezoid, capitate, and trapezium arise in the mesenchyme in essentially their adult form by the 11th week of development, long before the processes of chondrification and ossification are complete”. ↩ ↩

    3. 5c.

      Page 1743:  “The modern human trapezoid is shaped like a boot (9, 13, 14), wherein the palmar half of the bone is radio-ulnarly and proximo-distally wide (Fig. 1). In contrast, other primates have a trapezoid that is more wedge-shaped with a narrow palmar tip and a wide dorsal base”.  “Instead, they show the general symplesiomorphic pattern exhibited by all extant African apes, as well as fossil hominins that preserve comparable wrist morphology and date before 1.7 Ma”.  "They" are LB1's trapezoid, scaphoid and capitate.  The trapezoid is compared with living apes and baboons;  the fossil comparisons are made on the scaphoid, with Homo habilis, and on the capitate, with two australopiths. ↩

    4. 5d.

      Page 1744:  “The genes that result in dysplasias, however, do not normally become expressed until after normal shape formation of the carpal mesenchyme (27). Although skeletal dysplasias may include carpal and digit abnormalities related to ossification errors, as well as various forms of microcephaly (27), none are known to result in abnormal carpal morphology that closely mimics a plesiomorphic state. Our diverse modern human sample includes a pituitary dwarf (USNM 314306) and a pituitary giant (USNM 227508) (tables S1 and S2). Both show normal modern human carpal shapes and articular configurations despite their abnormal sizes, demonstrating that LB1's wrist morphology is not the result of allometric scaling, errors in metabolism, or a skeletal growth disorder.”  The passage runs over the page turn to 1745. ↩

  6. 6.

    Obendorf, Peter J. et al.  “Are the small human-like fossils found on Flores human endemic cretins?”  Proceedings of the Royal Society B 275(1640):1287–1296.  Jun 7, 2008.  The cretinism proposal.  Obendorf is a biologist at RMIT, Oxnard a senior anatomist at the University of Western Australia.  None of the authors had examined the fossils, which is why the paper calls its hypothesis tentative;  the pituitary measurement was taken from a published photograph of the endocast.  Mirror:  PMC

    1. 6a.

      Page 1288:  “Anteroposterior length of the pituitary fossa and whole brain of LB1 were measured from expanded images of the LB1 endocast (fig. S2E in Falk et al. 2005).”  From the Material and Methods. ↩

    2. 6b.

      Page 1294:  “The reported brain size of LB1 (sample size of 1) is smaller than would be expected of a cretin but consistent with brain sizes reported in small brained populations and undernutrition of cretins in hunter-gatherer societies as well as post-mortem reductions of cretin skull volumes. … However, until the original fossils are examined in relation to the cretinism hypothesis, and until more cretin skeletons can be examined, the cretin hypothesis must continue to be tentative.”  From the Conclusion. ↩ ↩

  7. 7.

    Baab, Karen L. et al.  “A Critical Evaluation of the Down Syndrome Diagnosis for LB1, Type Specimen of Homo floresiensis.”  PLoS ONE 11(6):e0155731.  Jun 8, 2016.  Tests each Down-syndrome sign claimed by Henneberg against measured samples of people with a documented diagnosis and of unaffected people, using CT of LB1.  Six of the seven authors had already published in defence of the species, Brown and Falk among them;  the clinical measurements are deposited at the Harvard Dataverse and can be re-measured.

    1. 7a.

      Page 19:  “In contrast, the greatly reduced brain size (EV = ~417 cm3) and head circumference of LB1 mark this individual as an outlier relative to those DS individuals evaluated here whose values are much closer to control samples of euploid individuals.” ↩

    2. 7b.

      Page 7:  “Using the data from Aylward, Habbak [73], the average EV of the DS sample was 87% of the average EV from a matched euploid sample. Applying this relationship to the average EV of 1270 cm3 for the local Indonesian population of Rampasasa [17], we estimated an average EV of 1106 cm3 for individuals with DS from Rampasasa. This value was >2.5 times the size of the LB1 EV”.  EV is endocranial volume and DS is Down syndrome.  The Aylward sample is 30 adults with Down syndrome, mean 1,261 cm³. ↩ ↩

  8. 8.

    Jacob, Teuku et al.  “Pygmoid Australomelanesian Homo sapiens skeletal remains from Liang Bua, Flores: Population affinities and pathological abnormalities.”  Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 103(36):13421–13426.  Sep 5, 2006.  The founding paper of the pathology school, by Teuku Jacob's team at Gadjah Mada University in Yogyakarta, which had the bones for study from November 2004.  It proposes that LB1 is a microcephalic member of a pygmy modern population like the Rampasasa who live beside the cave.  Contributed by K. Hsü, a co-author, under the PNAS rules of the time.  Mirror:  PMC

    1. 8a.

      Page 13423:  “Compared with our Rampasasa sample, with average cranial capacities of 1,198 ml (n = 41) for females, 1,354 ml (n = 35) for males, and 1,270 ml for the combined sex sample, LB1's cranial capacity directly measured using seed displacement was 430 ml. This volume is slightly higher than other published estimates, but we removed from the endocranial surface some breccia that had lowered earlier estimates. Comparatively, LB1 falls 5.5 SD below the combined sex Rampasasa mean, whereas our estimate for stature falls 3.3 SD below Rampasasa average stature of 1.46 m.” ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩

  9. 9.

    Kubo, Daisuke et al.  “Brain size of Homo floresiensis and its evolutionary implications.”  Proceedings of the Royal Society B 280(1760):20130338.  Jun 7, 2013.  A high-resolution micro-CT measurement of LB1's endocranial volume, 426 cc, with about 17 per cent of the surface reconstructed, followed by brain-on-body scaling from two candidate ancestors using slopes fitted across twenty Holocene human populations.  The authors note that the slope is a within-human one extrapolated below the human range.  Mirror:  PMC

    1. 9a.

      Page 5:  “With this HMH thresholding, the volume of the endocranial cavity was 425.7 cc.” ↩

    2. 9b.

      Page 6:  “In our model of ancestor (early Indonesian H. erectus) and descendant (LB1) relationships, and RMA or MA scaling, the estimated body size decrease (changes in the FHD from 45–50 to 31 mm) would reduce the ECV from 860 to 469–585 cc (63–90% reduction) by body size scaling alone (table 2).”  Page 5, table 2:  The table's expected volumes after shrinking Homo habilis at 614 cc to LB1's femoral head are 488, 468, 447, 417, 449, 427, 400 and 378 cc across the eight slopes.  The habilis start is the mean of three skulls, KNM-ER 1470, 1805 and 1813, at 614 cc, with a femoral head of 42 mm from two femora, KNM-ER 1472 and 1481a (pages 4 and 6).  From the earliest Indonesian Homo erectus at 860 cc the same eight slopes give 599–649, 561–616, 522–582, 469–536, 525–585, 485–551, 438–508 and 400–474 cc. ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩

    3. 9c.

      Page 2:  “Using traditional seed displacement methods, the ECV of LB1 was initially measured as 380 cc [1], whereas Jacob et al. [6] obtained 430 cc after removing some 'breccia' from the endocranial surface. Another report is 417 cc which is based on a virtual endocast from CT data taken by a medical CT scanner, with interpolation of missing areas and adjustment of slight taphonomic distortion [3].”  ECV is endocranial volume. ↩ ↩ ↩

    4. 9d.

      Page 5:  “we conclude that the original ECV of the LB1 cranium was 426 cc with only a limited degree of error, probably within ±3 cc.” ↩

    5. 9e.

      Page 6:  “Still, the earlier-mentioned results, based on the best available data and various regression methods, suggest that at least 50 per cent, probably much more, of the brain size reduction in H. floresiensis could occur as scaling effect if this little hominin derived from early Indonesian H. erectus. This means that 0–50% of its brain size decrease needs to be explained by other factors.” ↩ ↩

    6. 9f.

      Page 7:  “We conclude that evolution from early Javanese H. erectus to H. floresiensis was possible in terms of brain size. Still, in this scenario, some amount of the brain size reduction remains to be explained by factors other than body size scaling, posing a challenge to our current knowledge about human brain size evolution. If H. floresiensis descended from H. habilis-like ancestor, the need for such relative brain size reduction is less significant, but we stress currently we have no convincing fossil evidence to support this hypothesis except for the brain size issue discussed here.”  Page 5, table 2:  The two steepest slopes, the OLS-CC fits, give 438 to 508 cc for males and 400 to 474 cc for females from the 860 cc Javan start. ↩ ↩

  10. 10.

    Tucci, Serena et al.  “Evolutionary history and adaptation of a human pygmy population of Flores Island, Indonesia.”  Science 361(6401):511–516.  Aug 3, 2018.  Genomes of the Rampasasa, the short-statured villagers beside Liang Bua:  32 people genotyped at 2.5 million sites, ten sequenced whole.  Locators below are pages of the authors' manuscript;  the journal pagination is 511–516.  Tucci was then at Princeton.  Mirror:  PMC

    1. 10a.

      Section manuscript page 2:  “We collected DNA samples from 32 adult individuals from Rampasasa (average height of 145 cm)”. ↩ ↩

    2. 10b.

      Section manuscript page 3:  “We found no evidence that unknown sequences in Flores are enriched for older or more divergent lineages (figs. S15 and S16) (13), as would be expected if they contained lineages inherited from a more deeply divergent hominin group, such as H. floresiensis or H. erectus. Although it is difficult to exclude very low levels of admixture from such groups given current methodological limitations, our data are inconsistent with substantial levels of ancestry from a deeply divergent hominin lineage.” ↩

  11. 11.

    Sutikna, Thomas et al.  “Revised stratigraphy and chronology for Homo floresiensis at Liang Bua in Indonesia.”  Nature 532(7599):366–369.  Apr 21, 2016.  The correction of the Liang Bua chronology, from the 2007 to 2014 excavations, by the same team that published the original dates.  It dates the hobbit-bearing pedestal by thermoluminescence, infrared-stimulated luminescence, uranium-thorium on speleothem, laser-ablation uranium-series on the hobbit bones, argon-argon on the overlying tephra, and radiocarbon on charcoal at the top of the pedestal.  Sutikna led the Indonesian side of the excavations.  Quotations are located by the paragraph of the main text in which they sit, since the authors' manuscript is not paginated like the journal.  Mirror:  Ro.uow.edu.au

    1. 11a.

      Paragraph beginning "The pedestal deposits have been truncated":  “The pedestal deposits have been truncated by one or more phases of erosion, resulting in an erosional surface (i.e., an unconformity) that slopes steeply down towards the cave mouth”. ↩

    2. 11b.

      Paragraph beginning "The pedestal deposits have been truncated":  “This unconformity was not recognised during the 2001–2004 excavations, raising serious questions about the accuracy of previous age estimates … for H. floresiensis, which were based on inferred stratigraphic associations.”  The ellipsis stands for reference numerals. ↩

    3. 11c.

      Paragraph beginning "Sediment samples for infrared stimulated luminescence":  “These samples gave statistically indistinguishable weighted mean IRSL and TL ages (± 1σ) of 65 ± 5 kyr (LB12-OSL3 to -OSL6) and 71 ± 13 kyr (LB12-23-2 and -4), respectively, for the time since sand-sized grains of feldspar and quartz were last exposed to sunlight. A TL age of 89 ± 7 kyr (LB08-15-3) was obtained for the basal H. floresiensis-bearing deposits in Sector XV, while two further samples from the immediately underlying, gravel-rich layer (in Sectors XXI and XXIII) gave IRSL and TL ages of 128 ± 17 kyr (LB12-OSL7) and 113 ± 9 kyr (LB12-23-1), respectively.” ↩

    4. 11d.

      Paragraph beginning "Sediment samples for infrared stimulated luminescence":  “We also used 234U/230Th methods to date four samples of in situ speleothem from the H. floresiensis-bearing deposits in Sectors XII and XVII (LB07-SXII-F4 and LB09-SXVII-F1 to -F3), which gave ages (± 2σ) of between 80.8 ± 0.8 and 58.3 ± 0.5 kyr.” ↩

    5. 11e.

      Paragraph beginning "Three H. floresiensis ulnae and seven Stegodon bones":  “Owing to the open system behaviour of bone, such analyses usually yield minimum ages for bone deposition and subsequent uranium uptake”. ↩

    6. 11f.

      Paragraph beginning "Three H. floresiensis ulnae and seven Stegodon bones":  “The H. floresiensis ulnae have modelled 234U/230Th ages (± 2σ) for individual laser-ablation tracks that range from 86.9 ± 7.9 to 71.5 ± 4.3 kyr for LB1 (Sectors VII and XI), 71.4 ± 1.1 to 66.7 ± 0.8 kyr for LB2 (Sector IV), and 66.0 ± 4.3 to 54.6 ± 2.1 kyr for LB6 (Sector XI).” ↩

    7. 11g.

      Paragraph beginning "Three H. floresiensis ulnae and seven Stegodon bones":  A modern human femoral shaft from the Holocene deposits in Sector IV gave a modelled uranium-series age of about 7.5 thousand years, between the charcoal radiocarbon ages of about 9.5 and 6.4 thousand years for the sediments below and above it. ↩

    8. 11h.

      Paragraph beginning "We dated T1, which directly overlies":  “The inverse isochron age (± 1σ) of 79 ± 12 kyr (Extended Data Fig. 3) is imprecise due to the low yield of radiogenic argon from the hornblende crystals, but the 2σ age range (103–55 kyr) is consistent with the luminescence and 234U/230Th ages for the underlying samples.” ↩

    9. 11i.

      Paragraph beginning "Sediments between T2 and T3 in Sector XXI":  “Hominin skeletal remains have not been recovered from the deposits between T2 and T3. However, stone artefacts are present and these display similar raw material proportions to those found underneath T1 (~80% silicified tuff and ~20% chert), in contrast to the preference of modern humans for chert (~60%) observed at Liang Bua during the Holocene”. ↩

    10. 11j.

      Paragraph beginning "Sediments between T2 and T3 in Sector XXI":  “The specific processes that ultimately resulted in the extinction of these taxa and H. floresiensis remain poorly understood.” ↩

    11. 11k.

      Paragraph beginning "In contrast, all of the charcoal samples":  “In contrast, all of the charcoal samples used previously to infer ages of ~18 kyr cal. BP for LB1 and about 17 or 13–11 kyr cal. BP as the terminus ante quem for H. floresiensis and Stegodon … originate from deposits that unconformably overlie the remnant pedestal, based on their plotted coordinates (Fig. 3).”  The ellipsis stands for reference numerals. ↩ ↩ ↩

    12. 11l.

      Paragraph beginning "In contrast, all of the charcoal samples":  “The onset of accumulation of the depositional sequence above the unconformity ~20 kyr ago is consistent with a TL age of 23 ± 7 kyr for sediments collected less than 15 cm above the unconformity in Sector XVI (LB09-16-2) and two new 14C ages of ~12.7 kyr cal. BP for charcoal recovered from just beneath T7 in Sector XXII (D-AMS 005953 and 005954).” ↩

    13. 11m.

      Paragraph beginning "Portions of the pedestal have been reworked":  “We investigated the possibility that the luminescence ages for the sediment samples collected in 2003 from alongside LB1 and ~1 m above it … were compromised by inadvertently sampling across the unconformity and measuring multiple grains simultaneously from this mixture. The wide spread in ages (from about 170 to 10 kyr ago) obtained for individual feldspar grains using newly developed IRSL dating procedures … supports this suggestion”.  The ellipses stand for reference numerals. ↩

    14. 11n.

      Paragraph final paragraph of the main text:  “All skeletal remains assigned to H. floresiensis are from the pedestal deposits dated to approximately 100–60 kyr ago, while stone artefacts reasonably attributable to this species range from about 190 kyr … to 50 kyr in age.”  The ellipsis stands for a reference numeral. ↩ ↩

    15. 11o.

      Paragraph final paragraph of the main text:  “But whether H. floresiensis survived after this time, or encountered modern humans, Denisovans or other hominin species on Flores or elsewhere, remain open questions that future discoveries may help answer.” ↩

    16. 11p.

      Paragraph beginning "The 2001–2004 excavations at Liang Bua":  “Charcoal samples collected from similar depths near the eastern wall of the cave (Sector VII) were dated to between about 19 and 13–11 kyr cal. BP”. ↩

    17. 11q.

      Paragraph beginning "Overlying T3 is T4":  “At 1.89 m depth in Sector XXIII, charcoal (sample OxA-X-2648-13) from immediately above the upper surface of T5 yielded a 14C age of ~46 kyr cal. BP (95% confidence interval of 47.7–44.1 kyr cal. BP).”  T5 is the fifth and highest ash of the pedestal.  Supplementary Table 8 gives this sample's conventional radiocarbon age as 42,500 ± 900 years BP. ↩ ↩

  12. 12.

    Brumm, Adam et al.  “Age and context of the oldest known hominin fossils from Flores.”  Nature 534(7606):249–253.  Jun 9, 2016.  The dating paper for the Mata Menge hominins:  argon-argon on single crystals, zircon and glass fission-track, laser-ablation uranium-series on a hominin tooth root, and combined uranium-series and ESR on two Stegodon molars from the fossil layer.  Line numbers below are those of the authors' accepted manuscript, which is titled "Stratigraphic context and age of hominin fossils from Middle Pleistocene Flores";  the journal pagination is 249–253.  Mirror:  Strathprints.strath.ac.uk ↩

    1. 12a.

      Lines 171–175:  “At Mata Menge, PGT-2 occurs 13.5 m above Layer II, and produced a 40Ar/39Ar weighted mean age of 0.65 ± 0.02 Ma from single crystal dating of hornblende (Extended Data Fig. 5). This is in accordance with the published ZFT age of a basaltic tephra inter-bed from the lower part of the GLM (0.65 ± 0.06 Ma).” ↩ ↩ ↩

    2. 12b.

      Lines 186–191:  “U-series dating of the hominin tooth root independently confirms this specimen was deposited at least 0.55 Ma, whereas combined U-series/ESR indicates minimum and maximum ages of around 0.36 Ma and 0.69 Ma, respectively, for the Stegodon molars. In sum, therefore, we have used multiple dating methods to establish a secure age of ~0.70 Ma for the Layer II hominin fossils.” ↩

    3. 12c.

      Lines 223–225:  “Our excavations uncovered 149 in situ stone artefacts in E-32, including 47 artefacts from Layer II, in direct association with the hominin remains”. ↩ ↩

    4. 12d.

      Lines 104–108:  “At the base of this slot-trench, a thin (<30 cm-thick) fossil-bearing fluvial sandstone layer was exposed underlying a sequence of mudflow deposits (Layers Ia-f) up to 6.5 m thick. This fossiliferous sandstone, named Layer II, represents the deposit of a small stream channel that has an irregular lower bedding plane and was incised into a well-developed, consolidated paleosol with prominent root traces (Layer III).”  Lines 169–171:  “The GLM contains at least 85 crystal-rich tephra inter-beds of basaltic composition, collectively named the Piga Tephra (the lower 56 tephras are sequentially numbered PGT-1 to PGT-56).”  GLM is the Gero Limestone Member, the thin-bedded lake limestones and clays that cap the basin fill.  PGT-2, dated in the next sentence, is one of the 85. ↩

  13. 13.

    Line, Peter.  “Revisiting Homo floresiensis.”  Journal of Creation 36(3):82–91.  Dec 2022.  The most recent and most detailed young-earth treatment.  It discusses the 2016 redating and the Mata Menge fossils.  Line holds a doctorate in neuroscience and writes Creation Ministries International's hominin articles.  Its reference list carries Obendorf 2008, Oxnard 2010 and Oxnard's 2012 rejoinder, and not Brown 2012, Baab 2013, Baab 2016, Falk 2007 or Falk 2009;  it also holds that Homo habilis is "an illusory species" and that all australopiths are "extinct apish primates."  Locators are the section headings of the web version. ↩

    1. 13a.

      Section Dating:  “Whether those (evolutionists) advocating the pathological modern human hypothesis were silenced by the new dating is unclear, but they have been very quiet since. From the creation viewpoint, both the old and new dates are rejected, and so have little bearing on the interpretation of Homo floresiensis presented here. The redating illustrates the fickle nature of age estimates obtained from dating methods”. ↩ ↩ ↩

    2. 13b.

      Section Contrasting views:  “It is not unreasonable to suggest that the finds from Liang Bua (Homo floresiensis) and Mata Menge are related, although the small mandibular fragment (SOA-MM4 right mandibular corpus) from Mata Menge, believed to be from an adult individual, and the other small, isolated teeth also from the same location, do not reveal much except that there were small-jawed individuals living there.” ↩

    3. 13c.

      Section The skull:  “Congenital hypothyroidism is said to be able to 'reduce brain size by approximately 50%.' Oxnard argues that small parent populations in terms of brain size (e.g. pygmoid crania) could have given rise to cretins with brain sizes as small as 400 cc.” ↩

    4. 13d.

      Section The skull:  “Thus, normal South East Asian pygmoid crania of 800–1000 ml have been recorded … . On this basis, cretins from such populations could have brain sizes as small as 400–500 ml, based on scaling of height and brain size found among European endemic cretins.”  Line is quoting Oxnard, Obendorf and Kefford 2010;  the ellipsis is his. ↩

    5. 13e.

      Section Tools:  “Evidence indicates that the toolmakers at Liang Bua were able to use fire and hunt dwarfed stegodonts”. ↩

    6. 13f.

      Section Discussion and conclusion:  “Consequently, if some Homo floresiensis individuals were cretins, their morphological features may still have differed. It is likely that only a relatively small percentage were cretins.” ↩

    7. 13g.

      Section Discussion and conclusion:  “That a detailed analysis concluded that 'LB1 is most similar to early Javanese Homo erectus from Sangiran and Trinil' raises the possible scenario that Homo floresiensis may have been a robust type of human (e.g. Homo erectus) with cretinism. Another possible scenario is that 'modern' humans and Homo erectus interbred on Flores, and individuals like LB1 are the resultant offspring of such interbreeding, albeit with pathology. Regardless, specimens labelled Homo erectus and Homo floresiensis were descendants of Adam and Eve, and so fully human.”  The paper's final paragraph. ↩

    8. 13h.

      Section Contrasting views:  “is making the unproven evolutionary assumption that Homo floresiensis was a different species of human”.  Of Tucci et al. 2018, the genome study of the Rampasasa. ↩

  14. 14.

    Klenck, Joel David.  “A Genesis Model for the Origin, Variation, and Continuation of Human Populations.”  Creation Research Society Quarterly 47(2):111–137.  2010.  A creationist model in which the non-modern human forms of the fossil record are the Nephilim of Genesis 6 or their hybrids with Adam's line, all destroyed by the Flood, so that only anatomically modern humans come after it.  It gives no dates in years and calls the conventional ones "alleged".  Klenck wrote from the Paleontological Research Corporation of Arlington, Virginia.

    1. 14a.

      Page 114:  “Therefore, all human populations with characteristics outside those of anatomically modern humans—including but not limited to some specimens attributed to H. habilis and H. rudolfensis and most remains attributed to H. ergaster, H. erectus, H. antecessor, H. heidelbergensis, H. neanderthalensis, and H. floresiensis—should be interpreted as Nephilim or populations genetically influenced by the Nephilim.”  The same page says the Flood destroyed "all Nephilim populations". ↩ ↩

    2. 14b.

      Page 123, figure 2:  “Just before the Flood human populations comprised direct non-Nephilim descendants of Adam, Nephilim populations, and hybrid populations with morphological features of both aforementioned groups. … (2.2) H. floresiensis, LB I, Liang Bua Cave, 18 kya, Liang Bua Cave, Flores, Indonesia”.  From the caption.  The 18 kya is the date then in print, one of those Klenck calls alleged. ↩ ↩ ↩

  15. 15.

    Lister, Adrian M.  “Rapid dwarfing of red deer on Jersey in the Last Interglacial.”  Nature 342(6249):539–542.  Nov 30, 1989.  The benchmark measured case of fast island dwarfing in a large mammal.  Full-sized red deer occur in older deposits on Jersey and dwarfs a sixth of their weight in Last Interglacial ones;  the time given is the estimated length of the island's isolation, so it is a ceiling on how long the dwarfing took.  Lister is a palaeontologist at the Natural History Museum, London.

    1. 15a.

      Page 539:  “Here I give the first example in which the island dwarf is well dated, the full-sized ancestor is found in demonstrably older deposits on the island, and a good estimate can be made for the duration of the isolation leading to dwarfing. In the Last Interglacial, red deer on Jersey, Channel Islands, became reduced to one sixth of their body weight in less than six thousand years.” ↩ ↩

  16. 16.

    Weston, Eleanor M., and Adrian M. Lister.  “Insular dwarfism in hippos and a model for brain size reduction in Homo floresiensis.”  Nature 459(7243):85–88.  May 7, 2009.  Skull-volume measurements on the two extinct dwarf hippos of Madagascar, 24 and 12 skulls, against 18 of their mainland ancestor, with the Sicilian dwarf elephant as a further case, then applied to three candidate ancestors of the hobbit.  Both authors are at the Natural History Museum, London.  Locators below are pages of the authors' manuscript;  the journal pagination is 85–88.  Mirror:  PMC

    1. 16a.

      Section manuscript page 1:  “Here we show that the endocranial capacities of extinct dwarf species of hippopotamus from Madagascar are up to 30% smaller than those of a mainland African ancestor scaled to equivalent body mass. These results show brain size reduction is much greater than predicted from an intraspecific 'late ontogenetic' model of dwarfism where brain size scales to body size with an exponent of 0.35.” ↩ ↩

    2. 16b.

      Section manuscript page 3:  “If the hippo model is applied to a typical H. erectus ancestor with a body mass of 60 kg and average endocranial capacity of 991 (cm3) that reduced its body mass by 62 % to 23 kg (the median of the 16 – 29 kg estimated body mass of H. floresiensis), an endocranial capacity of 704 cm3 (71 % of the original value) would be predicted from scaling (body mass)0.35. If the brain were reduced by a further 30 % of that value, as in the case of the Malagasy hippo H. lemerlei, an endocranial capacity of 493 cm3 would result. This is still larger than the actual value of H. floresiensis (380 – 430 cm3), but if the ancestor had an endocranial capacity of 804 cm3, as in the African H. erectus KNM-ER 3883, scaling the body mass of the ancestor down to 23 kg and then reducing the brain size by a further 30 % of the scaled value gives an endocranial capacity of 405 cm3, comparable to that of H. floresiensis (see Supplementary Table 5). By the same analogy if the Dmanisi adult Homo remains (skull D3444 cf. H. erectus), with an endocranial capacity 650 cm3 (ref. 29) and body mass of 40 kg (ref. 30) are considered, an endocranial capacity of 378 cm3 would result”.  The passage runs onto page 4.  "(body mass)0.35" is body mass raised to the power 0.35.  Reference numerals in the printed passage are omitted. ↩ ↩

    3. 16c.

      Section manuscript page 1:  “The strongest case previously documented is that of a fossil bovid Myotragus, isolated on the Mediterranean island of Mallorca for more than 5 million years. The brain mass of Myotragus was reduced by up to 50% relative to values of extant bovids of equivalent body mass. A link between the relatively small brain of Myotragus and the process of dwarfism has, however, been disputed in the light of the length of the bovid’s isolation and its uncertain ancestry.”  Reference numerals are omitted. ↩

  17. 17.

    Wood, Todd Charles.  “Baraminological Analysis Places Homo habilis, Homo rudolfensis, and Australopithecus sediba in the Human Holobaramin.”  Answers Research Journal 3:71–90.  2010.  The founding statistical-baraminology study of the hominins, by the young-earth biologist most identified with the method.  It places Homo habilis, Homo rudolfensis and Australopithecus sediba with humans on skull and tooth characters, and lists the hobbit only as a possible additional member.  Locators are section names. ↩ ↩

    1. 17a.

      Section Discussion:  “Homo floresiensis was also included in the inconclusive Argue et al. (2009) dataset. Their cladistic analysis would seem to place H. floresiensis among the homininans, although bootstrap support was exceptionally poor. Creationist opinion on H. floresiensis differs. Hartwig-Scherer (2005) and Wise (2005) consider it a legitimate human species, but Line (2006) believes that it was a microcephalic H. sapiens. This debate also continues among professional paleoanthropologists … but it is immaterial to the question of whether H. floresiensis is human, which creationists agree that it is.” ↩

    2. 17b.

      Section Discussion, Australopithecus:  “Though there is disagreement among creationists over which members of Homo are truly human, there is unanimity that Australopithecus is not human”. ↩

  18. 18.

    Wieland, Carl.  “Soggy dwarf bones.”  creation.com.  Oct 28, 2004.  The first young-earth response, written the day the Nature papers appeared, with an addendum and a note.  Wieland, a physician, was then head of Creation Ministries International's Australian office;  the page is unsigned and his authorship is fixed by his later note in "Hobbling the Hobbit?" of 8 November 2004.

    1. 18a.

      Paragraph 5:  “The remains have many features strikingly similar to Homo erectus, which we have also long maintained is really just a variety of Homo sapiens. The researchers who discovered the Flores bones apparently think that they are dwarfed descendants of Homo erectus. We would agree.” ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩

    2. 18b.

      Paragraph 4:  “Interestingly, the bones, found in a cave, were apparently not fossilized (mineralized), and due to the damp climate had the consistency of 'wet blotting paper'. One would think that given this, long-agers would themselves get a bit wary about the ages assigned to them.” ↩

    3. 18c.

      Section Addendum:  “NOTE: We are not suggesting that the anatomical features of the Flores woman were simply those of a (miniature) modern type human. They are those of a (miniature) Homo erectus, a variant of the modern type, but within the human kind”. ↩

  19. 19.

    Rupe, Christopher, and John Sanford.  Contested Bones.  FMS Publications.  1st edition.  2017.  The fullest book-length young-earth treatment of the human fossil record;  its chapter 5, pages 79 to 94, is on the hobbit.  Sanford is a retired Cornell plant geneticist;  Rupe is a researcher at his foundation.  A second edition appeared in 2019 and may differ in pagination.

    1. 19a.

      Page 80:  “they had discovered a new human species that lived 18,000 years ago, based on carbon-14 dating of the surrounding limestone”. ↩

    2. 19b.

      Page 81:  “So at this point the age for these bones could range anywhere from 1,000 to 1 million years old, based on conventional dating methods.” ↩

    3. 19c.

      Page 87:  “This is far-fetched because while it could happen to a stray individual, it would be extremely unlikely to transport a viable breeding population. The more reasonable alternative is that Hobbit arrived by sailing (as Dennell puts it, 'purposeful navigation'). … Building and navigating boats would clearly prove that both Erectus and Hobbit were fully human.” ↩ ↩

    4. 19d.

      Page 92:  “Their impressive cultural inventory (an array of sophisticated stone tools), ability to sail the open ocean, endocast scans revealing a modern human brain, and an overall modern human anatomy further confirms their fully human status. … Their small body size and reduced brain size are quite clearly due to island dwarfism, subsequent inbreeding, and reductive selection.”  Under the heading "Conclusion—Hobbit was Fully Human." ↩ ↩ ↩

    5. 19e.

      Page 92:  “The findings of José Alexandre and colleagues is almost a point for point confirmation of our assessment of Hobbit in this chapter. … 6) this process can occur relatively rapidly in small, isolated populations.”  "José Alexandre" is Diniz-Filho, cited by his given names. ↩

    6. 19f.

      Page 85:  “Their comparative analysis revealed that Hobbit looked most similar to Homo erectus—only smaller.” ↩

    7. 19g.

      Page 86:  “Among the excavated remains were found charred bones and a circular hearth of stones revealing controlled use of fire and cooking.” ↩

    8. 19h.

      Page 91:  “We have shown that Erectus is just a variant of Homo sapiens. Hobbit can be understood as a extreme version of Erectus (more isolated, more inbred, more dwarfed).”  "a extreme" is the source's wording. ↩ ↩

  20. 20.

    Brumm, Adam et al.  “Early stone technology on Flores and its implications for Homo floresiensis.”  Nature 441(7093):624–628.  Jun 1, 2006.  Compares 507 stone artefacts excavated at Mata Menge with the tools from the hobbit levels at Liang Bua.  Brumm is an archaeologist, now at Griffith University, who later led the Mata Menge dating.

    1. 20a.

      Section abstract:  “The Mata Menge evidence negates claims that stone artefacts associated with H. floresiensis are so complex that they must have been made by modern humans (Homo sapiens).” ↩

    2. 20b.

      Section abstract:  “We also note specific similarities, and apparent technological continuity, between the Mata Menge stone artefacts and those excavated from Late Pleistocene levels at Liang Bua cave, 50 km to the west.”  Answers in Genesis gives the distance as 46 miles, and the difference is not resolved here. ↩ ↩ ↩

  21. 21.

    Morley, Mike W. et al.  “Initial micromorphological results from Liang Bua, Flores (Indonesia): Site formation processes and hominin activities at the type locality of Homo floresiensis.”  Journal of Archaeological Science 77:125–142.  Jan 2017.  Thin-section study of the cave sediments, which found hearths and dated them by radiocarbon on their own charcoal, and then reviewed the fire evidence claimed in 2005.  Morley is a geoarchaeologist, then at the University of Wollongong.  Sutikna, Jatmiko, Saptomo, Wasisto and Roberts were also authors of the 2005 paper.  Manuscript pages 28 and 29 below are pages of the authors' accepted manuscript, numbered 1 to 41;  the journal pagination is 125–142.  Mirror:  Ro.uow.edu.au

    1. 21a.

      Page 125:  “Importantly, we identify anthropogenic signs of fire-use at the site between 41 and 24 thousand years ago, most likely related to the presence of modern humans.” ↩ ↩

    2. 21b.

      Section Combustion features and fire-use, manuscript page 28:  “The 'charred bones' initially reported by Morwood et al. (2004, 2005) within the H. floresiensis-bearing deposits are clearly the result of manganese staining, and no definitive evidence of burnt faunal remains has been recovered during subsequent excavations of these deposits. Similarly, analyses of the "clusters of reddened and fire-cracked rocks" (Morwood et al., 2005:1012) from within the H. floresiensis-bearing sediments have demonstrated that these stones were not exposed to any significant heat source (Roberts et al., 2009). Furthermore, the most extensive study so far of the Liang Bua stone artefact assemblages (Moore et al., 2009) found a marked discrepancy in terms of artefact exposure to fire, with negligible evidence (<1%) in assemblages associated with H. floresiensis remains, versus almost 18% of stone artefacts of Holocene age attributed to modern humans.” ↩ ↩

    3. 21c.

      Section Combustion features and fire-use, manuscript page 29:  “Given the available evidence, we suggest that the use of fire at Liang Bua—particularly the construction of hearth-like structures that were presumably used for warmth and/or cooking—is more likely a behavioural signature of modern humans than of H. floresiensis. Although this hypothesis requires confirmation by additional investigation at Liang Bua and elsewhere on Flores, the micromorphological evidence from Sector XXIV suggests that modern humans were present on Flores by ~41 ka cal. BP or shortly thereafter.” ↩

  22. 22.

    Détroit, Florent et al.  “A new species of Homo from the Late Pleistocene of the Philippines.”  Nature 568(7751):181–186.  Apr 11, 2019.  The paper that named Homo luzonensis from thirteen pieces in layer 14 of Callao Cave.  Locators below are pages of the authors' manuscript as deposited at HAL, counting its cover sheet as page 1;  the journal pagination is 181–186.  Détroit is at the Musée de l'Homme in Paris, Mijares at the University of the Philippines led the excavation.  Mirror:  Hal.science

    1. 22a.

      Section manuscript page 3:  “seven postcanine maxillary teeth (CCH6-a to CCH6-e, CCH8, CCH9; Fig. 2a, f, g), two manual phalanges (CCH2 and CCH5; Fig. 2b, c), two pedal phalanges (CCH3 and CCH4; Fig. 2d, e) and a femoral shaft (CCH7; Fig. 2h). CCH1 and CCH6-a are directly dated by U-series analysis to minimum ages of 67 thousand years (kyr) and 50 kyr, respectively.” ↩ ↩

    2. 22b.

      Section manuscript page 3:  “The presence of two right upper third molars (M3; CCH6a and CCH9) and a juvenile femoral shaft (CCH7) indicates that at least three individuals are represented.” ↩

    3. 22c.

      Section manuscript page 4:  “The proximal pedal phalanx (rays 2–4) shares shape affinities with Australopithecus: marked longitudinal curvature, parallel medial and lateral sides in dorsal view, a small bicondylar head and weak dorsal canting of the proximal articular surface (unlike African and European early Homo, H. naledi, H. neanderthalensis, H. floresiensis and H. sapiens).”  From the formal diagnosis. ↩

    4. 22d.

      Section manuscript page 5:  “H. luzonensis premolars have multiple roots (P3 has three, P4 has two) that are robust and highly divergent, an archaic condition typically found in Australopithecus, Paranthropus and early Homo. Multiple robust and divergent premolar roots also occur in Asian H. erectus (Early Pleistocene Indonesian and Middle Pleistocene Chinese specimens), but are rare in H. sapiens and absent in H. floresiensis”.  The same paragraph says that a three-rooted fourth premolar, which the isolated tooth CCH8 may be, "is rarely found in modern humans (1 to 3%)". ↩ ↩ ↩

    5. 22e.

      Section manuscript page 6:  “essentially indistinguishable from the features of A. afarensis and A. africanus”.  Of the curved proximal foot phalanx CCH4. ↩

    6. 22f.

      Section manuscript page 7:  “As is the case for most hominins recovered from tropical Asia, attempted DNA extraction from H. luzonensis fossils has been unsuccessful.” ↩ ↩

    7. 22g.

      Section manuscript page 7:  “As is the case with the island of Flores, a substantial sea crossing has always been required to reach Luzon from any mainland, even during the lowest sea level periods of the Quaternary period (Fig. 1).” ↩ ↩

    8. 22h.

      Section manuscript page 4:  “Intermediate manual phalanx (rays 2–4) that is long and narrow (unlike all hominins except H. sapiens), with a longitudinally curved and dorso-palmarly compressed shaft, well-developed flexor sheath attachments and a strongly developed dorsal beak; it shares shape affinities with Australopithecus, H. floresiensis and—to a lesser extent—H. sapiens.”  From the formal diagnosis. ↩

    9. 22i.

      Section manuscript page 6:  “The proportions of CCH5 (apical tuft expansion and robusticity indices) are within the ranges of variation for H. sapiens and Australopithecus and outside those of H. neanderthalensis and H. floresiensis”.  CCH5 is the finger-tip bone.  The diagnosis as printed in Nature reads "Distal hand phalanx with proportions unlike those of early Homo/Paranthropus, Homo naledi, H. floresiensis and H. neanderthalensis";  the manuscript's diagnosis names only H. neanderthalensis.  The description quoted here is the same in both. ↩

  23. 23.

    Creation Ministries International.  “Hobbit: New news is good news.”  creation.com.  Aug 24, 2006.  Unsigned web article responding to Jacob et al. 2006, with an addendum of 5 October 2006.  It records CMI's shift from Wieland's dwarfed-erectus reading toward a diseased modern human.

    1. 23a.

      Section summary paragraph:  “In summary, it is now even more likely that this is a diseased modern human, rather than a dwarfed erectus. But as our 'hobbit-forming' article of 5 May 2005 indicated, either conclusion would make little difference to the obvious conclusion that the 'Hobbit' remains were those of a fully human descendant of Adam.” ↩ ↩

  24. 24.

    O'Micks, Jean.  “Rebuttal to "Reply to O'Micks Concerning the Geology and Taphonomy of the Homo naledi Site" and "Identifying Humans in the Fossil Record: A Further Response to O'Micks".”  Answers Research Journal 10:63–70.  2017.  Part of O'Micks's exchange with Todd Wood over Homo naledi, in which he applies Wood's baraminology methods and concludes that both naledi and the hobbit are australopiths.  The only published young-earth claim that the hobbit is not human.

    1. 24a.

      Page 63:  “H. floresiensis might well be another example of a fossil ape, based on both cranial and post-cranial characteristics (similar to H. naledi), mistaken to be a diminutive archaic human. … Baraminic analyses of one cranial data set and two post-cranial data sets suggest that both H. naledi and H. floresiensis are not part of the human holobaramin, but are rather australopiths.” ↩ ↩

    2. 24b.

      Page 66:  “Furthermore, H. floresiensis has bony reinforcements alongside its nose (which is lacking in humans), and also thigh bones which are less obliquely aligned than those of humans. The oblique thigh bones are a crucial postcranial character, since the alignment of the thigh bones influences gait and body posture, making it possible that H. floresiensis wasn't even bipedal.” ↩

    3. 24c.

      Page 67:  “BDC results were obtained at a relevance cutoff > 0.95 for five characters. Three pairs of species formed: 1) A. afarensis + A. sediba, 2) H. habilis + H. naledi, and 3) A. africanus + H. floresiensis”. ↩

  25. 25.

    Sinclair, Peter, and Todd Charles Wood.  “Revising Hominin Baraminology with Medoid Partitioning and Fuzzy Analysis.”  Answers Research Journal 14:451–462.  2021.  Reruns the statistical baraminology of the hominins on a 391-character matrix that includes Homo floresiensis, with three clustering methods.  Its Table 1 sorts creationist opinion on the hobbit:  "Not human", O'Micks 2017;  "Human", Wise 2005, Line 2006, Wood 2016, Rupe and Sanford 2017.  Locators are section names.

    1. 25a.

      Section Discussion:  “Distance correlation placed H. floresiensis in its own singleton cluster rather than in a human or nonhuman cluster. Three-cluster and two-cluster medoid partitioning placed H. floresiensis in the human cluster, but fuzzy analysis did not. … Two-cluster fuzzy analysis uniformly placed H. floresiensis in a cluster with nonhuman apes. Given the lack of consistency, we cannot make a firm conclusion regarding the status of H. floresiensis.” ↩

  26. 26.

    Ham, Ken.  “Homo luzonensis—a New Human Species Discovered in the Philippines?”  Answers in Genesis, Ken Ham Blog.  Apr 15, 2019.  Answers in Genesis's response to Détroit et al. 2019.  It prints the verdict and the bone-by-bone notes of the anatomist David Menton, with a comment by the palaeontologist Gabriela Haynes.

    1. 26a.

      Section Homo or Ape?:  “Dr. David Menton, an anatomist … studied the paper and concluded, 'This is absolutely not Homo. It's an ape.' Dr. Menton notes that the finger and toe bones bear no resemblance to human fingers and toes, but do resemble the highly curved fingers and toes of Australopithecus”. ↩ ↩

    2. 26b.

      Section bullet "Teeth":  “They point out that the premolars 'display several primitive features. . . . [the] premolars have multiple roots that are robust and highly divergent, an archaic condition typically found in Australopithecus.'” ↩

    3. 26c.

      Section bullet "Finger":  “The authors say that the intermediate phalanx has a "longitudinally curved and dorso-palmarly compressed shaft" that "shares shape affinities with Australopithecus." This is clearly not a human finger.”  “The distal manual phalanx is described by the authors as having "proportions unlike those of early Homo/Paranthropus, Homo naledi, H. florensis and H. neanderthalensis." This is clearly not a human finger.”  Menton's notes, as printed by Ham.  "H. florensis" is the article's spelling. ↩

    4. 26d.

      Section Homo or Ape?:  “The portions of the paper, "Diagnosis" and "Description and Comparison of the fossil elements," point to characteristics that show similarities to Australopithecus, Paranthropus, or "early" Homo, as they call it, which would be ape-like. But despite all that, they keep pushing the idea of a new species for the genus Homo.”  Gabriela Haynes, a palaeontologist in Answers in Genesis's research department, quoted near the end of the article. ↩

  27. 27.

    Cserhati, Matthew et al.  “What is Homo luzonensis? Ape or man?”  creation.com.  Oct 16, 2019.  Creation Ministries International's response to Détroit et al. 2019, updated 7 November 2019.  Cserhati is a bioinformatician, Line a neuroscientist who writes CMI's hominin articles, Tay a CMI speaker.

    1. 27a.

      Paragraph 3:  “The number of bones is too few to draw any definitive conclusion, but it still may be worth the time to analyze the bones.” ↩

    2. 27b.

      Section Morphology:  “The premolars have multiple robust roots, and resemble those of Australopithecus and Paranthropus. However, they also resemble those of Indonesian Homo erectus, which almost all creationists agree is human.” ↩

    3. 27c.

      Section conclusion:  “None of the bones have features which resemble only australopithecines. From the scant evidence there is at this point no reason to think that H. luzonensis is not human. It could be that H. luzonensis is very similar to H. floresiensis and both are human, likely belonging to the Negrito population living in the Philippines.” ↩ ↩

    4. 27d.

      Section Morphology:  “The third right metatarsal (a bone in the mid-foot) is gracile (slender) and resembles that of H. floresiensis. … It fits into the range of other Homo species, and overlaps with the range of variation measured for Philippine Negritos.” ↩

    5. 27e.

      Section Animal remains:  “Also, stone tools associated with a butchered rhinoceros, indicating human intelligence, were found nearby in the Cagayan Valley of northern Luzon, dated by evolutionists to between 777 and 631 ka. Whilst not accepting these age dates, they nonetheless indicate there was likely a human presence in the region relatively early post-Flood.” ↩

  28. 28.

    Falk, Dean et al.  “The Brain of LB1, Homo floresiensis.”  Science 308(5719):242–245.  Apr 8, 2005.  A virtual endocast of LB1 from CT, compared with great apes, five Homo erectus, ten modern humans, a pygmy, one microcephalic and two australopiths.  Falk is a palaeoneurologist at Florida State University.  Its one-microcephalic comparison was its stated weakness, repaired in the 2007 paper.

    1. 28a.

      Page 242:  “Morphometric, allometric, and shape data indicate that LB1 is not a microcephalic or pygmy. LB1's brain/body size ratio scales like that of an australopithecine, but its endocast shape resembles that of Homo erectus.” ↩

    2. 28b.

      Page 245:  “The CT-estimated cranial capacity was 417 cm3, as opposed to 380 cm3 measured with mustard seeds (1). The 37-cm3 difference is attributable to variation in how cranial holes were plugged and thus to measurement error associated with the current reconstructions.”  Note 10 of the paper. ↩

    3. 28c.

      Page 245:  “Our data show that LB1's well-convoluted brain could not have been a miniaturized version of the brain of either H. sapiens or H. erectus.” ↩

    4. 28d.

      Page 245:  “LB1's polar convolutions appear derived compared with those of H. erectus and other early hominins.”  “thus, LB1's extremely wide temporal lobes (brachycephaly; fig. S3) may represent another derived feature.” ↩

  29. 29.

    van den Bergh, Gerrit D. et al.  “Homo floresiensis-like fossils from the early Middle Pleistocene of Flores.”  Nature 534(7606):245–248.  Jun 9, 2016.  The first description of the Mata Menge hominin fossils, a mandible fragment and six teeth.  van den Bergh is a palaeontologist at the University of Wollongong who has worked the So'a Basin since the 1990s.

    1. 29a.

      Page 245:  “These specimens comprise a mandible fragment and six isolated teeth belonging to at least three small-jawed and small-toothed individuals. … The Mata Menge fossils are derived compared with Australopithecus and H. habilis, and so tend to support the view that H. floresiensis is a dwarfed descendent of early Asian H. erectus. Our findings suggest that hominins on Flores had acquired extremely small body size and other morphological traits specific to H. floresiensis at an unexpectedly early time.” ↩

  30. 30.

    Falk, Dean et al.  “The type specimen (LB1) of Homo floresiensis did not have Laron Syndrome.”  American Journal of Physical Anthropology 140(1):52–63.  Sep 2009.  The Liang Bua team's reply to Hershkovitz, comparing LB1 with the clinical literature on Laron syndrome and with the patient images Hershkovitz published.

    1. 30a.

      Page 52:  “The statements regarding most of these traits are new to the clinical literature and lack quantitative support. LB1 and patients with LS differ markedly in the size and shape of the cranium; thickness and pneumatization of cranial bones; morphology of the face, mandible, teeth, and chin; form of the shoulder, wrist, and pelvis; and general body proportions including relative foot size. Claims that patients with LS are similar to LB1 in displaying protracted scapulae, short clavicles, low degrees of humeral torsion, flaring ilia, and curved tibiae are not supported by data or corroborating images. … From our review and analysis, we conclude that LB1 did not suffer from LS.”  From the abstract.  LS is Laron syndrome. ↩

  31. 31.

    Brown, Peter.  “LB1 and LB6 Homo floresiensis are not modern human (Homo sapiens) cretins.”  Journal of Human Evolution 62(2):201–224.  Feb 2012.  A point-by-point test of the cretinism diagnosis against the clinical literature and against the original bones, by the anatomist who described them, and so a reply by an interested party.

    1. 31a.

      Page 213:  “Contrary to claims by Obendorf et al. (2008), a dramatic reduction in brain mass (>60%) has never featured in the clinical literature on human cretinism, and the small size of LB1's brain does not support their speculation about the pathological status of LB1.” ↩ ↩

    2. 31b.

      Page 213:  “Using a median sagittal section CT scan and a sectioned stereolithographic model, it is possible to estimate the length of the sella turcica in LB1 at ~8.5 mm (Fig. 9b). Contrary to Obendorf et al. (2008), this is within the normal human range”.  The sella turcica is the bony seat of the pituitary.  Obendorf's figure from the photograph was 12.9 mm. ↩ ↩

  32. 32.

    Oxnard, Charles et al.  “More on the Liang Bua finds and modern human cretins.”  HOMO 63(6):407–412.  Dec 2012.  The cretinism authors' rejoinder to Brown 2012, in six sections:  unfused growth plates, limb proportions, bone torsions, robusticity, the skull, and iodine deficiency on Flores.

    1. 32a.

      Page 407:  “Brown (2012: LB1 and LB6 Homo floresiensis are not modern human (Homo sapiens) cretins, Journal of Human Evolution) makes errors of fact, omission and interpretation. … In each of these areas, much information about cretins is incorrect and much information (Oxnard et al., 2010) comparing the Liang Bua remains with cretins is ignored.”  From the abstract. ↩

    2. 32b.

      Section Skull features:  “Brown consistently misreports brain sizes in cretins. Thus he writes "brain weights and endocranial volumes … are in the normal human range of variation" therefore taking no notice of the large reductions in brain and skull sizes in small statured endemic cretins observed by de Quervain that we reported in 2008 (an English translation is now available in Dennison et al., 2012).”  The ellipsis is the authors' own. ↩ ↩

  33. 33.

    Eckhardt, Robert B. et al.  “Reply to Westaway et al.: Mandibular misrepresentations fail to support the invalid species Homo floresiensis.”  Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 112(7):E606.  Feb 17, 2015.  A one-page letter by the Down syndrome authors answering Westaway and colleagues on the jaw.  It also restates the group's position on brain volume, stature and asymmetry.  Mirror:  PMC

    1. 33a.

      Page E606:  “Given hundreds of disorders producing small brain and short stature and asymmetry (2), Hf is an invalid taxon independent of any particular diagnosis.”  Hf is the letter's abbreviation for Homo floresiensis. ↩

  34. 34.

    Eckhardt, Robert B., and Maciej Henneberg.  “Paleospecies as cognitive construct: The meme of "Homo floresiensis".”  Anthropological Review 84(3):317–336.  Sep 30, 2021.  An essay by two of the Down syndrome authors that sets the hobbit beside Piltdown Man and other abandoned fossil species.  It restates their figures for brain volume and stature, answers Baab's criticism in one sentence, and discusses the Mata Menge jaw and teeth.  It was written before the Mata Menge arm bone was published.

    1. 34a.

      Page 323:  “our emphasis for the parallel to criticisms of our Down syndrome (DS) hypothesis by Baab and colleagues (Baab et al. 2015) because some variably-expressed DS signs were not present in LB1”.  A bracketed aside in the essay's account of the Gardar skull, a medieval Greenland skull once named as a species and later diagnosed as acromegaly.  The next sentence says the missing signs "were overwhelmed by critically important signs that were not missing."  The Baab 2015 in the essay's reference list is a conference abstract;  the 2016 paper is not listed. ↩

  35. 35.

    Orr, Caley M. et al.  “New wrist bones of Homo floresiensis from Liang Bua (Flores, Indonesia).”  Journal of Human Evolution 64(2):109–129.  Feb 2013.  Describes a right capitate, LB20, and two partial hamates, LB21 and LB22, picked out in 2009 from unsorted bone of the 2004 excavation, with three-dimensional shape analysis.  From the wrist team of the 2007 paper, so a reply by an interested party.

    1. 35a.

      Page 109:  “The new capitate is smaller than that of LB1 but is nearly identical in morphology. … Because there is no accommodation for the derived, palmarly blocky trapezoid that characterizes Homo sapiens and Neandertals, this individual most likely had a plesiomorphically wedge-shaped trapezoid (like LB1). … Documentation of a second individual with primitive carpal anatomy from Liang Bua, along with further analysis of trapezoid scaling relative to the capitate in LB1, refutes claims that the wrist of the type specimen represents a modern human with pathology.”  From the abstract. ↩

  36. 36.

    Morwood, Michael J. et al.  “Archaeology and age of a new hominin from Flores in eastern Indonesia.”  Nature 431(7012):1087–1091.  Oct 28, 2004.  The companion paper to the 2004 description, carrying the radiocarbon and luminescence samples that gave the original age of about 18,000 years.

    1. 36a.

      Section abstract:  “Dating by radiocarbon (14C), luminescence, uranium-series and electron spin resonance (ESR) methods indicates that H. floresiensis existed from before 38,000 years ago (kyr) until at least 18 kyr.” ↩

  37. 37.

    Brumm, Adam et al.  “Hominins on Flores, Indonesia, by one million years ago.”  Nature 464(7289):748–752.  Apr 2010.  Reports stone artefacts at Wolo Sege in the So'a Basin, lower in the section than Mata Menge, sealed by a dated ignimbrite.  No hominin fossil is associated with them.

    1. 37a.

      Section abstract:  “We show using 40Ar/39Ar dating that an ignimbrite overlying the artefact layers at Wolo Sege was erupted 1.02 ± 0.02 Myr ago, providing a new minimum age for hominins on Flores.” ↩

  38. 38.

    Ingicco, Thomas et al.  “Earliest known hominin activity in the Philippines by 709 thousand years ago.”  Nature 557(7704):233–237.  May 2018.  Excavation at Kalinga in the Cagayan Valley of Luzon:  57 stone tools with a butchered rhinoceros skeleton, dated by electron spin resonance and uranium-series on a tooth of the animal.  Line numbers are those of the authors' manuscript.  Mirror:  Hal.science

    1. 38a.

      Line 122:  “The tooth yielded an age of 709 ± 68 ka”. ↩

  39. 39.

    van den Bergh, Gerrit D. et al.  “Earliest hominin occupation of Sulawesi, Indonesia.”  Nature 529(7585):208–211.  Jan 14, 2016.  Stone artefacts at Talepu, Sulawesi, dated from before 200 thousand to about 100 thousand years, with no hominin fossil. ↩

  40. 40.

    Searches run on 10 October 2026 for the exact terms "Liang Bua", "Mata Menge", "floresiensis", "Callao" and "luzonensis".  Full-text searches:  creation.com's article index, where 14 articles hold "Liang Bua", 2 hold "Mata Menge", both by Line, and 1 holds "luzonensis" and "Callao";  the Creation Research Society Quarterly's archive, which also indexes Answers Research Journal, where 1 paper holds "Liang Bua",14 7 hold "floresiensis", 1 holds "Callao Cave" and "luzonensis",56 and none holds "Mata Menge";  the site search of Answers in Genesis, where 5 articles and a topic page hold "Liang Bua", 1 holds "Mata Menge",41 2 hold "luzonensis" and none holds "Callao";  and the Institute for Creation Research's own search, where 9 articles hold "floresiensis" and none holds any of the site names.  That last search page says it is being rebuilt, so its result is the weakest of the four.  The site search of Answers Research Journal reads titles and abstracts only, and returned one paper for "floresiensis".  Every article returned was fetched, and each mention of the hobbit or of the sites in it was read for a date in years or a place in a biblical chronology, except one book review in the Quarterly's archive that could not be fetched.  Print-only issues of Creation magazine and Acts & Facts, and books other than the two cited here, were not searched. ↩

  41. 41.

    Mitchell, Elizabeth.  “Hobbits of Flores Were an Archaic Human Variety, Studies Suggest.”  Answers in Genesis, News to Know.  Jul 15, 2016.  Answers in Genesis's response to the 2016 redating and the Mata Menge fossils, by a physician on its staff.  It accepts Baab's rebuttal of Down syndrome and reads Mata Menge as evidence of a population.

    1. 41a.

      Section Hobbits Likely the Norm on Ancient Flores:  “Hobbit-like fossils newly discovered at a distant site on the island of Flores may soon totally tip the anthropological scale in favor of the view that the Flores hobbits were a unique variety of human, not a few diseased outliers among the island's population.” ↩

    2. 41b.

      Section footnote 1:  “We do not know exactly when various people groups reached places like Flores after dispersion from the Tower of Babel; however, when human history is understood in the light of the reliable history provided in God's Word, the vast temporal separations postulated by these scientists, as well as the 700,000 year age assigned to the new Mata Menge hobbit-like fossils, fall by the wayside.” ↩ ↩

    3. 41c.

      Section Island Dwarfism: Evolutionary Shrinkage?:  “The population bottleneck of the global Flood about 4,350 years ago reduced the world's human population to eight people—Noah and his family. … Thus we can readily understand that so-called separate species of humans such as the Neanderthals, Homo erectus, Denisovans, early modern humans were just as human as we are.” ↩ ↩

    4. 41d.

      Paragraph final:  “Whether the entire population manifested some sort of yet-to-be-identified growth disorder, island dwarfism, or genetically inbred characteristics, the remains of these small Flores inhabitants are consistent with our biblically based understanding that variations would have appeared among isolated groups of people after the global Flood and the subsequent dispersion from the Tower of Babel.” ↩

  42. 42.

    Lubenow, Marvin L.  “'Hobbits' Were Real!”  Answers in Genesis.  Sep 13, 2006.  A short web article by the author of Bones of Contention;  a second, "'Hobbits' Were True Humans!", followed on 14 February 2007.

    1. 42a.

      Paragraph 7:  “Both of these alternate views are offered by evolutionists, and the controversy is heating up! However, both of these views are compatible with young-earth creationism.” ↩

    2. 42b.

      Paragraph 8:  “However, the seven-year RATE program by creationist scientists has produced evidence strongly suggesting that all evolutionist dates are inflated because they are based on invalid assumptions.” ↩

    3. 42c.

      Paragraph 9:  “There are other grounds for questioning the evolutionary dates for the Flores hobbits. Consider this quotation from Discover (January 2005, p. 31): ". . . local folktales suggest that little people were living in caves on some Indonesian islands when the first Dutch explorers arrived in the 16th century." Normally I would give no credence to folktales. However, there is a colony of "modern Rampasasa pygmies living only a few kilometers from Liang Bua cave" (Science, 25 August 2006, p. 1028).” ↩

    4. 42d.

      Paragraph final:  “The 'hobbits' were real, and they were human. … While we creationists cannot prove that they could reproduce with modern humans, the cultural artifacts associated with them are things that only true humans produce—stone tools and fire.” ↩

  43. 43.

    Wieland, Carl.  “Hobbling the Hobbit?”  creation.com.  Nov 8, 2004.  Wieland's follow-up eleven days after the announcement, relaying what the Indonesian palaeoanthropologist Teuku Jacob told the Jakarta Post.

    1. 43a.

      Paragraph 5:  “The skeleton is not a new species as claimed by these scientists, but simply a fossil of a modern human, Homo sapiens, that lived about 1,300 to 1,800 years ago.”  Paragraph 8:  “Certainly our view (that this is likely a miniature human being exhibiting part of the same range of post-Babel human variation as encompasses the larger so-called Homo erectus) is not harmed, if anything the opposite, by this Indonesian opinion.”  The first quotation is Jacob's, as the Jakarta Post of 8 November 2004 reported it. ↩

  44. 44.

    500 years divided by 85 ash layers is 5.9 years.  Wise's window runs from the Flood to about 1000 B.C.3  On Answers in Genesis's Flood date of about 4,350 years before 2016,41 the Flood falls near 2334 B.C. and the window is about 1,330 years;  1,330 divided by 85 is 15.6 years.  The 500-year figure is no source's claim and is used for scale only. ↩

  45. 45.

    Evans, Alistair R. et al.  “The maximum rate of mammal evolution.”  Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 109(11):4187–4190.  Mar 13, 2012.  Maximum rates of body-mass change in mammals over 70 million years, in generations and in haldanes, against a reference set of 1,453 published rates.  Evans is an evolutionary biologist at Monash University.  Mirror:  PMC

    1. 45a.

      Section SI Appendix, page 5, Examples of island dwarfism:  “The Jersey deer represents a change from about 200 kg to 36 kg during a maximum of 5800 years (16). As this is a maximum estimate of the divergence time, this will represent a minimum and therefore conservative estimate of the evolutionary rate.”  Reference 16 is Lister 1989.  Table S4 of the same appendix gives the deer a generation of 2.5 years, which makes 5,800 years the 2,300 generations of the main text. ↩

  46. 46.

    Diniz-Filho, José Alexandre Felizola, and Pasquale Raia.  “Island Rule, quantitative genetics and brain–body size evolution in Homo floresiensis.”  Proceedings of the Royal Society B 284(1857):20171065.  Jun 28, 2017.  The only published quantitative-genetic pricing of the hobbit's dwarfing:  50,000 simulations of a 50 kg, 750 to 1,000 cm³ ancestor becoming a 27 kg, 426 cm³ descendant, with heritability 0.725, over 2,000 to 10,000 generations.  Diniz-Filho is a Brazilian evolutionary ecologist, Raia an Italian palaeontologist.  Mirror:  PMC

    1. 46a.

      Page 4:  “Under Lande's [36] model, the mean value of truncation selection threshold b was equal to 3.138 ± 0.155 phenotypic standard deviations, which corresponds to a minimum selective mortality of about 8.48 × 10−4 per generation (95% CI between 4.01 × 10−4 and 2.71 × 10−3) against the largest individuals.” ↩

    2. 46b.

      Page 4:  “We started by applying a range of 50 kya to 300 kya for the time”.  The paper writes kya for thousands of years.  “Thus, combining these limits for divergence time with an average generation length of ca 30 years [63,64] gives lower and upper limits of approximately 2000–10 000 generations for the divergence between H. floresiensis and H. erectus.” ↩

    3. 46c.

      Page 5:  “Under the range of parameters used in the simulations, there is a wide possible variation in EBS, with a mean of 479 ± 73 cm3 (figure 3a). Although the 426 cm3 estimated for LB1 brain size is within this relatively wide interval, the mean EBS values from the simulations are slightly larger than 426 cm3. The distribution of expected ancestral brain size (EABS) peaks at around 750 cm3 (median 775, with 95% CI from 628 to 1050)”. ↩

    4. 46d.

      Page 2:  “We found that dwarfing in H. floresiensis is best explained by strong directional selection over a relatively short time, and that, in agreement with a recent study based on an allometric analyses of brain–body size variation in fossil hominids [26], body size reduction alone would produce a larger brain than observed in Flores Man.” ↩

  47. 47.

    Gingerich, Philip D.  “Rates of evolution on the time scale of the evolutionary process.”  Genetica 112–113:127–144.  Nov 2001.  Measures how the rate of change in a trait depends on the interval it is measured over, using D. S. Falconer's 1973 selection experiments on mouse body weight, field studies, and fossil sequences, all in haldanes.  Gingerich is a University of Michigan palaeontologist who named the haldane as a unit.  Mirror:  Archive.org

    1. 47a.

      Page 130:  “In the second, six ‘small’ lineages were maintained in the laboratory for 23 generations, selected in each generation for smaller body size.”  Page 132:  “A line fit to all points declines slightly as interval length gets longer (slope −0.000), indicating a very slight decline in response over time. This line has an intercept of −0.138, and a predicted H0 of −0.138, which is again very close to the observed mean rate of −0.137 for 1-generation rates (Figure 4(A)).”  Rates are in standard deviations of log body weight per generation.  The experiment is Falconer's, on six-week body weight of laboratory mice. ↩

  48. 48.

    Martin, Robert D. et al.  “Flores hominid: New species or microcephalic dwarf?”  The Anatomical Record Part A 288A(11):1123–1145.  Nov 2006.  The microcephaly case argued from brain-body scaling, by a primatologist at the Field Museum with a paediatric neurologist, Dobyns, among the authors.  Its scaling model shrinks a 60 kg, 991 cm³ Homo erectus to 16 kg and gets 794 cm³.

    1. 48a.

      Page 1128:  “The artifact assemblage clearly involved a tradition using the prepared-core technique, which is confined to Homo neanderthalensis and Homo sapiens. Furthermore, the explicitly noted presence of bladelets is a hallmark of Homo sapiens”.  “However, they also mention a "more formal component . . . including . . . blades and microblades," thus reinforcing the interpretation that there are at least two sets of assemblages in the cave, both seemingly associated with their hominid.”  "They" are Morwood et al. 2004, the companion dating paper, whose words Martin is quoting. ↩

  49. 49.

    Sutikna, Thomas et al.  “The spatio-temporal distribution of archaeological and faunal finds at Liang Bua (Flores, Indonesia) in light of the revised chronology for Homo floresiensis.”  Journal of Human Evolution 124:52–74.  Nov 2018.  Re-plots every find from the cave against the revised stratigraphy, tracing the disappearance of the hobbit and the extinct fauna and the change in stone raw material.

    1. 49a.

      Page 52:  “Our results suggest that H. floresiensis and Stegodon florensis insularis, along with giant marabou stork (Leptoptilos robustus) and vulture (Trigonoceps sp.), were likely extinct by ~50 ka ago. Moreover, an abrupt and statistically significant shift in raw material preference due to an increased use of chert occurs ~46 thousand calibrated radiocarbon (14C) years before present”. ↩ ↩

  50. 50.

    van den Bergh, Gerrit D. et al.  “The Liang Bua faunal remains: a 95 k.yr. sequence from Flores, East Indonesia.”  Journal of Human Evolution 57(5):527–537.  Nov 2009.  The study of the animal bones from the cave, written on the old chronology in which the hobbit lasted to 17 thousand years ago.

    1. 50a.

      Section abstract:  “The accumulation of Stegodon and Komodo dragon remains at the site in the Pleistocene is attributed to Homo floresiensis, while predatory birds, including an extinct species of owl, were largely responsible for the accumulation of the small vertebrates.” ↩

  51. 51.

    University of Wollongong.  “Fire discovery sheds new light on 'hobbit' demise.”  University of Wollongong press release, reproduced by Archaeology Wiki.  Jun 30, 2016.  The university's press release for Morley et al. 2017, quoting its lead author.  A press release, not a paper.

    1. 51a.

      Paragraph 9:  “Given that no evidence for the use of fire by Homo floresiensis during roughly 130,000 years of presence at the site has been found, Dr Morley said modern humans are the most likely candidates for the construction of the fire places.” ↩

  52. 52.

    Lubenow, Marvin L.  Bones of Contention: A Creationist Assessment of Human Fossils.  Baker Books, Grand Rapids.  revised and updated edition.  2004.  The standard young-earth survey of the human fossil record.  Written before LB1 was announced;  its pages 130 to 131 discuss the 1998 Flores stone tools and the sea crossing they imply.

    1. 52a.

      Page 131:  “The remarkable thing about this discovery is that Flores is several hundred miles and three deepwater straits east of Java. The widest of these is 12 miles, and none were dry land during the Ice Age. Morwood and his associates write, 'We conclude that Homo erectus in this region was capable of repeated water crossings using watercraft.'”  Lubenow is quoting Morwood et al. 1998, Nature 392:173–176. ↩

  53. 53.

    Line, Peter.  “The Hobbit: Precious fossil or poisoned chalice?”  creation.com.  Jun 21, 2006.  Line's first treatment, published two months before Jacob et al.'s paper.  It leans to microcephaly on the strength of Henneberg's and Jacob's statements to the press and of Weber et al. 2005, whether in a modern human or in a Homo erectus.

    1. 53a.

      Paragraph final:  “As arguments to the contrary accumulate, it is probably more likely that the LB1 skeleton, whilst still human and hence a descendant of Adam, is a reflection of post–Babel human pathological variation.” ↩

  54. 54.

    Thomas, Brian.  “New 'Species' Was Just a Tiny Human.”  Institute for Creation Research, Creation Science Update.  Dec 31, 2008.  The Institute for Creation Research's position in 2008, written after Falk 2007 and Baab and McNulty's three-dimensional study of the skull's shape.  The same author reversed it in 2020.

    1. 54a.

      Paragraph 3:  “Now researchers have offered even more evidence that these were diminutive, not diseased, people.” ↩

  55. 55.

    Thomas, Brian.  “How Do Hominids Fit with the Bible?”  Institute for Creation Research, Acts & Facts.  Apr 30, 2020.  A short question-and-answer column sorting hominin fossils into ape, invented and human.  Its two references for the hobbit are Hershkovitz et al. 2007, the Laron-syndrome paper, and Martin et al. 2006.

    1. 55a.

      Paragraph final:  “Homo floresiensis (nicknamed "Hobbit") presented a challenge. The skull and other fragments from a remote island in Indonesia came from a small person with a tiny head. Initial reports declared it a possible ancestor, but later work showed an excellent match between Hobbit and people today who have microcephaly. Diseased humans don't show evolution, just sin's curse on creation.” ↩

  56. 56.

    Rupe, Christopher.  “"Lucy" and the Pygmy Human Hypothesis.”  Creation Research Society Quarterly 62:208–227.  2026.  Argues that the Lucy skeleton is a small-bodied human from an isolated pygmy population and not an australopith, using the hobbit and Homo naledi as comparisons.  Rupe is the co-author of Contested Bones.

    1. 56a.

      Page 221:  “Once again, curved fingers and toes should not be considered a diagnostic trait since they can occur in humans. For example, finger bones belonging to another small-bodied human were discovered in Callao Cave on the Philippine Island of Luzon (Détroit et al., 2019).”  Page 221, figure 14:  “there can be no question it belonged to the small-bodied human, H. luzonensis”. ↩ ↩

  57. 57.

    Jungers, William L. et al.  “The foot of Homo floresiensis.”  Nature 459(7243):81–84.  May 7, 2009.  Describes LB1's foot:  a human-like big toe in line with the others, but a foot exceptionally long for the leg with ape-like proportions elsewhere.  Jungers was the Liang Bua team's postcranial anatomist.

    1. 57a.

      Section abstract:  “Here we show that LB1's foot is exceptionally long relative to the femur and tibia, proportions never before documented in hominins but seen in some African apes. Although the metatarsal robusticity sequence is human-like and the hallux is fully adducted, other intrinsic proportions and pedal features are more ape-like. The postcranial anatomy of H. floresiensis is that of a biped, but the unique lower-limb proportions and surprising combination of derived and primitive pedal morphologies suggest kinematic and biomechanical differences from modern human gait.” ↩ ↩

  58. 58.

    Boissoneault, Lorraine.  “A New Genetic Study Suggests Modern Flores Island Pygmies and Ancient Hobbits Are Unrelated.”  Smithsonian Magazine.  Aug 2, 2018.  A staff writer's news report on Tucci et al. 2018, quoting researchers by email.  A magazine article, not a laboratory report.

    1. 58a.

      Paragraph 5:  “We have been unable to obtain DNA from Homo floresiensis. At least three ancient DNA labs have tried”.  Debbie Argue, a palaeoanthropologist at the Australian National University who was not part of the study, writing to the magazine by email. ↩