When Was the Book of Daniel Written?

Daniel's court tales preserve sixth-century Babylonian knowledge and early Aramaic, while its visions contain second-century detail and fail where events move past 164 BC. The evidence supports a layered book and does not settle one date for the whole.

Summary

Daniel says it was written by a Jewish exile in Babylon in the sixth century BC.  Most academic scholars say it was written in Judea about 165 BC, during the persecution under Antiochus IV Epiphanes.  The gap is nearly four hundred years, and a great deal rides on it — though less than either side usually admits.

  • The question is not one question. Daniel is two books stitched together, and the evidence for each half runs the opposite way. Chapters 1–6 are court tales set in Babylon; chapters 7–12 are visions. The book also switches language mid-sentence: Hebrew in 1:1–2:4a, Aramaic in 2:4b–7:28, Hebrew again in 8:1–12:13. Almost every argument for an early date is an argument about the Aramaic half. Almost every argument for a late date is an argument about the Hebrew visions. Both can be right at once, and most popular treatments on both sides never notice.
  • Daniel 11 is the whole late-date case, and it is strong. Verses 2–39 track Hellenistic dynastic politics in detail found nowhere else in the Bible: the Ptolemy–Seleucus succession, Berenice's marriage and murder, Raphia, Panium, Cleopatra I given "to destroy the kingdom," Antiochus III's defeat by a Roman commander and his death robbing a temple, Seleucus IV's tax collector, then twenty verses on Antiochus IV. Then, at 11:40–45, it goes wrong. Antiochus does not die "between the seas and the beautiful holy mountain."1 Polybius says he "died at Tabae in Persia, smitten with madness"; 1 Maccabees has him die of grief in Persia after failing to plunder a temple at Elymais.2 3 Accuracy that stops dead at a particular year, and then fails, is the signature of history written as prophecy.
  • Porphyry made this argument in the third century AD, and the church's reply was not that he had the history wrong. Jerome preserves it: Porphyry held that Daniel "did not foretell the future so much as he related the past," that everything up to Antiochus "contained authentic history," and that anything beyond that point "was false."4 Jerome's answer was not to dispute the fit; he conceded it was so exact that Porphyry "could not deny that they had taken place," and argued instead that 11:36–45 jumps to a future Antichrist.4 Every conservative reading since has needed that jump, and the Hebrew gives no marker for it.
  • The numbers look like a deadline being recalculated. Daniel gives four figures for the same crisis: 2,300 evenings and mornings (8:14), "a time, times, and half a time" (7:25), 1,290 days (12:11), and 1,335 days (12:12).1 The desecration ran from 15 Kislev of Seleucid year 145 to the rededication on 25 Kislev of year 148 — three years and ten days, about 1,105 days.3 A prediction revised upward twice, in adjacent verses, is what happens when a date passes and the crisis has not ended.
  • Belshazzar is the strongest thing the early date has, and it is very strong. Daniel 5 names a king of Babylon unknown to Herodotus, to Berossus, and to every classical source; his name was recovered from cuneiform only in the nineteenth century.5 A foundation cylinder Nabonidus buried at Ur around 540 BC prays for "Belshazzar, the eldest son — my offspring" beside the king himself;6 the Nabonidus Chronicle has the crown prince holding Babylonia while Nabonidus was away at Tema;7 the Verse Account says Nabonidus "entrusted the kingship to him" and left.8 Three independent documents. That combination explains the oddest detail in the chapter: Daniel is made "third ruler in the kingdom" (5:29) — the highest post available when the first two were taken.1 No one has explained how a Judean writing in 165 BC would know any of this.
  • But Daniel 5 also gets things wrong, and honesty requires saying so. Belshazzar's father was Nabonidus, not Nebuchadnezzar (5:2, 5:11), and Aramaic ab covering "ancestor" or "predecessor" is a real but unverified escape. No cuneiform text gives Belshazzar the title king; contracts continued to be dated by Nabonidus's regnal years, and Belshazzar never performed the New Year ritual.5 The chapter holds knowledge nobody in the second century had, and it also holds errors nobody in the sixth century should have made.
  • Darius the Mede is the hardest problem in the book. Daniel has a Mede aged about sixty-two take Babylon after Belshazzar and reign before Cyrus (5:31, 9:1, 6:28).1 The Nabonidus Chronicle leaves no room for him: Ugbaru of Gutium entered Babylon on 16 Tashritu, Cyrus arrived eighteen days later, Ugbaru died three weeks after that.7 Wiseman's own survey concedes the difficulty and offers Darius = Cyrus, reading 6:28 as "Darius, that is, Cyrus the Persian"; Whitcomb offered Gubaru the governor; Rowley concluded he was fictitious.9 Wiseman also concedes there is "no clear evidence" that Cyrus was ever called son of Xerxes or bore another name.9
  • The one piece of hard physical evidence is a radiocarbon date, and both sides are misreading it. In 2025 a Groningen-led team dated Qumran scroll 4Q114 — which preserves Daniel 10:5–11:29, including Antiochus IV's Egyptian campaigns — to 2168 ± 15 BP.10 Calibrated, that is 355–285 BC (49.5%) or 230–160 BC (45.9%); the team rejects the older band on script grounds.10 Associates for Biblical Research reported it as "230–160 (mean 195) BC," which treats a two-humped distribution as if it had a mean.11 Three critical scholars replying in February 2026 said the range carries "equal probability throughout," which the paper's own published intervals contradict: within the accepted band, 34.5 of 45.9 percentage points — three-quarters of the probability — sit in a thirty-year window, 205–175 BC.12 10 On the study's own numbers, the likeliest date for this copy of Daniel 11 is before Antiochus IV took the throne.
  • Three Greek words, and not one Greek word of government. The Greek in Daniel is three musical instruments in chapter 3. Under a century and a half of Greek rule, an author writing in 165 BC produced no Greek administrative, military, or political vocabulary at all — while using around twenty Old Persian loanwords, four of which the Septuagint translators could no longer translate.13 Kitchen's honest conclusion is still the best statement of the linguistic evidence: the Aramaic "cannot be decided upon linguistic grounds alone," and it is "equally obscurantist" to rule out a sixth-century date or to treat one as proven.13 Even Mitchell and Joyce, arguing the conservative side on the instruments, concede that if sumponyah really is Greek symphōnia meaning an instrument, "then its use in Daniel is consonant with a late date."14
  • Most of the apologetic weight does not rest here at all. The seventy weeks of Daniel 9 still predate Jesus by roughly two centuries at a 165 BC date. So do the "one like a son of man" of Daniel 7 and the bodily resurrection of Daniel 12. What does not survive a 165 BC date is Daniel 11 as predictive prophecy, the reading that makes the fourth kingdom Rome, and — the real stake — the book's own first-person claims: "I, Daniel, saw" (7:15, 8:1, 9:2, 10:2). If those are a literary convention, the argument is theological, not evidential, and should be conducted as such.

Verdict:  undecided, and the honest reading splits the book.  The court tales carry sixth-century Babylonian knowledge that a second-century Judean should not have had, in an Aramaic that sits with the Persian chancery rather than with Qumran.  The visions carry second-century Hebrew, second-century detail, and an ending that failed in 164 BC.  The two strongest facts on the table point in opposite directions:  Daniel 11:40–45 is wrong exactly where the ex-eventu theory predicts, and the only physically dated copy of Daniel 11 most likely predates Antiochus IV's reign.  Anyone who tells you this is settled — in either direction — is quoting one of those facts and suppressing the other.

Why the date matters

Set the date at 530 BC and Daniel 11 is a prediction of two centuries of Hellenistic history so detailed that a skeptic must either accept prophecy or find a way out.  Set it at 165 BC and Daniel 11 is a competent history of the recent past, and the apologetic argument evaporates.

That is the whole reason the question is fought so hard.  It is also why the fight is often bad-tempered.  Conservatives treat the sixth-century date as a test of orthodoxy;  the academy treats the second-century date as a test of competence.  Neither posture helps anyone weigh evidence.

The useful question is narrower:  which arguments actually depend on the answer?

Argument Needs a sixth-century date?
Daniel 11's Hellenistic detail as fulfilled prophecy Yes — dies completely at 165 BC
The four kingdoms of Daniel 2 and 7 ending in Rome Yes — Rome was already on the scene by 168 BC
The seventy weeks of Daniel 9 pointing to a Messiah No — still ~200 years before Jesus
The "one like a son of man" receiving an eternal kingdom (7:13–14) No
Bodily resurrection in Daniel 12:2 No
The book's first-person claims being true Yes — this is the real doctrinal stake

So the answer to "what breaks?" is:  one prophecy argument, one prophetic-chart tradition, and the book's own voice.  Not the messianic material, which is what most people think is at issue.

The three positions

Sixth century, about 530 BC.  The book is what it says it is.  Held by Gleason Archer, E. J. Young, Stephen Miller, Andrew Steinmann, Joe Sprinkle, and J. Paul Tanner;  defended on historical and linguistic grounds by the 1965 Tyndale volume edited by D. J. Wiseman, which is still the best conservative case in print.9

Second century, about 165 BC.  The visions are vaticinium ex eventu — prophecy after the event — written during the Antiochene persecution.  This is the mainstream academic position and has been since Driver.  Notably, it is also held by a number of evangelical scholars:  Ernest Lucas in the Apollos commentary, John Goldingay in the revised Word commentary, and Aubrey Buster with John Walton in the 2025 NICOT volume.12

Composite.  The court tales of chapters 1–6 are older — third century or earlier, possibly much earlier — and the visions of 7–12 are Maccabean.  This is now the ordinary form of the critical position, and the February 2026 statement of it is blunt:  "The Book of Daniel as we know it is formed by a combination of the four visions focused on the crisis under Antiochus with an older story collection."12

Keep the third option in view.  Most of the shouting happens because each side attacks the other's weakest half.

Part 1 — The case for the second century

The prophecy that stops

Daniel 10–12 is a single vision, delivered in the third year of Cyrus, running from the Persian empire to the end.  Here is what chapter 11 says, beside what happened.

Daniel 11 History
2 — "Three more kings will arise for Persia. Then a fourth king will be unusually rich … he will stir up everyone against the kingdom of Greece" Cambyses, Bardiya, Darius I, then Xerxes' invasion of Greece, 480 BC
3–4 — a mighty king; his kingdom broken and divided to the four winds, "but not to his posterity" Alexander, d. 323; empire divided among generals; his sons murdered
5 — the king of the south strong, but one of his officers stronger Ptolemy I Soter; Seleucus I Nicator
6 — the southern king's daughter given to the northern king; she, her escort, her father and her child destroyed Berenice married Antiochus II, c. 252; she and her son killed by Laodice
7–9 — a shoot from her roots invades the north, carries off their gods and precious vessels to Egypt Ptolemy III's Laodicean War, 246–241
10–12 — his sons wage war; the king of the south, enraged, defeats a great multitude Antiochus III; Raphia, 217 BC — Ptolemy IV's victory
13–16 — the northern king returns with a greater army; besieges a fortified city; stands in "the beautiful land" Panium, 200 BC; Scopas besieged at Sidon; Antiochus III takes Judea
17 — "he will give him a daughter of women, to destroy the kingdom, but she will not stand" Cleopatra I married to Ptolemy V, 194/3; she sided with Egypt
18 — turns to the coastlands; a commander turns his insolence back on him Antiochus III defeated at Magnesia by the Romans, 190 BC
19 — turns home, stumbles, falls, is not found Antiochus III killed robbing a temple in Elymais, 187 BC
20 — a successor who sends a tax collector; destroyed "not in anger, nor in battle" Seleucus IV; Heliodorus sent to plunder the temple; Seleucus assassinated, 175 BC
21–39 — a "despicable person" who seizes the kingdom by intrigue; two Egyptian campaigns; ships of Kittim; the daily sacrifice stopped; the abomination that causes desolation Antiochus IV Epiphanes, 175–164: Sixth Syrian War; Popillius Laenas and the Roman embassy of 168; temple desecrated 15 Kislev 167

Nothing else in the Old Testament resembles this.  Isaiah names Cyrus;  Daniel 11 gives dynastic marriages, the fate of individual princesses, and the outcome of specific battles, in order, for roughly a hundred and sixty years — and gets essentially all of it right.

Two features of that accuracy are worth noticing before anyone decides what it proves.

It is lopsided.  The Persian empire lasted about two centuries and had ten kings after Cyrus.  Daniel 11:2 gives it one verse and four kings, then jumps to Alexander.  Jerome noticed the gap:  "after he has specified four kings of Persia after Cyrus, the author [i.e., Daniel] omits the nine others and passes right on to Alexander."  He explained it as selection:  "the Spirit of prophecy was not concerned about preserving historical detail but in summarizing only the most important matters."4  The Hellenistic period gets thirty-seven verses.  A revelation given in Cyrus's third year has no reason to be thin about the empire it was given in and dense about the empire two centuries later.  An author living in the second century has every reason.

It thins out at the end.  Verses 21–39 are still recognizable but increasingly generic.  Verses 40–45 stop matching anything.

Where it stops

Daniel 11:40–45 predicts a final campaign:  the king of the south attacks, the king of the north sweeps through Egypt with Libyans and Cushites in his train, is alarmed by news from the east and north, and pitches his royal tents "between the seas toward the beautiful holy mountain."  Then:  "he will come to his end, with no one to help him."1

Antiochus IV did none of this.  He had already invaded Egypt twice, in 170–169 and 168, and Rome had thrown him out;  there was no third campaign, no Libyan and Cushite train, and no return to Judea.  He died in the opposite direction.  Polybius, writing within a generation:

In Syria King Antiochus, wishing to provide himself with money, decided to make an expedition against the sanctuary of Artemis in Elymaïs.  On reaching the spot he was foiled in his hopes, as the barbarian tribes who dwelt in the neighbourhood would not permit the outrage, and on his retreat he died at Tabae in Persia, smitten with madness. — Polybius, Histories 31.92

1 Maccabees, independently, has him hear of his generals' defeat while in Persia, take to his bed, and say "I am perishing with great grief in a foreign land."  He died in Seleucid year 149.3

So the vision is exact for a century and a half and then fails on the one event it places at "the time of the end."  That is precisely the pattern a second-century composition predicts:  the author's own present is the seam.  Where he stops reporting and starts guessing, he is wrong.

The conservative answer has been the same since Jerome:  somewhere around verse 36 the subject changes from Antiochus to a future Antichrist.  That answer has one thing going for it and two against it.

For it:  Daniel does move into eschatology.  Chapter 12 opens with Michael arising, "a time of distress unlike any other," and the resurrection of the dead.  None of that happened in 164 BC.  The text plainly reaches past Antiochus somewhere.

Against it:  first, the Hebrew gives no break.  Verse 36 begins "the king will do as he pleases" with no new subject introduced;  the natural referent is the despicable person of verse 21.  Second, the transition conservatives need is not marked by "time of the end," because Daniel already uses that phrase for the Antiochus vision:  "the vision pertains to the time of the end" (8:17), of a chapter everyone — including Jerome — reads as Antiochus.1

Jerome's own handling is instructive.  He does not argue that Porphyry's history was wrong.  He argues that Porphyry's identification of the holy mountain was strained, that Antiochus never held Libya or Ethiopia, and that in any case "even though he were able to prove that these statements applied to Antiochus instead of the Antichrist, what does that matter to us?"4  That is a theological answer, not a historical one.

The oldest readers already read it as Antiochus

The Antiochene reading of Daniel 11 is not a modern skeptical invention.  It is the oldest reading on record, and it is embedded in the text's own earliest translation.

The Old Greek of Daniel — the first translation, made in the later second century BC12 — does not say "the king of the south" in chapter 11.  It says "the king of Egypt."  Verse 40:  "according to the time of consummation the king of Egypt will lock horns with him."  Verses 5, 8, 9, 11, 25 and 42 do the same.3  The translator was not guessing at a distant future;  he was reading a document about the Ptolemies and the Seleucids and rendering it accordingly, within a century of the crisis.

Josephus, around AD 93, says the same about the parallel vision in chapter 8:  "it so came to pass, that our nation suffered these things under Antiochus Epiphanes, according to Daniel's vision, and what he wrote many years before they came to pass."15  Josephus is a hostile witness to the late date — he thinks Daniel wrote centuries earlier and counts him among "the greatest of the prophets"15 — and he still identifies the villain as Antiochus.  He then adds:  "In the very same manner Daniel also wrote concerning the Roman government."  Both readings, in one paragraph, from a first-century Jew.

So the sequence runs:  the Old Greek translator reads Egypt and Syria;  Josephus reads Antiochus and Rome;  Porphyry reads Antiochus and concludes the book is a forgery;  Jerome concedes the Antiochus fit and moves the ending to a future Antichrist.  No ancient interpreter on record read Daniel 11:21–35 as anything but Antiochus IV.  The dispute has always been about where he stops.

The numbers get revised

Daniel gives four separate figures for how long the desecration lasts.

Reference Figure Days
8:14 2,300 evenings and mornings 1,150 (if a half-day each) or 2,300
7:25; 12:7 "a time, times, and half a time" ~1,260
12:11 1,290 days 1,290
12:12 1,335 days 1,335

The actual interval is fixed by 1 Maccabees.  The abomination went up on the altar on 15 Kislev of Seleucid year 145;  the first pagan sacrifice on the 25th;  the rededication on 25 Kislev of year 148.3  That is three years and ten days from the abomination, or exactly three years from the first sacrifice — roughly 1,100 to 1,105 days.

The 1,150 of Daniel 8:14 lands within about seven weeks of the true figure.  Then 12:11 raises it to 1,290, and 12:12 raises it again to 1,335, in consecutive verses, with a blessing attached to whoever "waits" for the longer number.  A revelation that gives one number is a prophecy.  A revelation that gives four, ascending, with the last two side by side, reads like a community recalculating a deadline that keeps not arriving.

This is the argument that carries the most weight with people who have actually read the end of the book, and it has no good conservative answer.  The usual reply — that the extra 45 days are a further period after the Second Coming — is possible, but it is a reading imposed to save the numbers, not one the text asks for.

The Persian period is too short

Daniel 11:2 gives Persia four kings.  Daniel 9 gives seventy weeks — 490 years — from a word about restoring Jerusalem to the end of the crisis.1

Run that on the critical reading, where the starting word is Jeremiah's prophecy that Daniel 9:2 has just been reading, and the endpoint is the murder of the high priest Onias III in 171 BC.  From 605 BC, 483 years lands in 122 BC.  From 587 BC, in 104 BC.  Either way the scheme overshoots the real interval by fifty to seventy years.

That error is diagnostic.  Second-temple Jewish chronology badly compressed the Persian period — the later rabbinic Seder Olam allowed it fifty-two years, thirty-four of them after the Temple was rebuilt, against the true two hundred and seven (see Traditional Jewish Chronology).  An author in 165 BC counting backwards through a shortened Persian period would produce exactly this kind of overshoot.  A sixth-century prophet given a number by an angel should not.

Conservatives have a reply, and it is the one the site treats separately:  the seventy weeks are not aimed at Antiochus at all but at the Messiah, and the arithmetic works to the first century on a 360-day year from a Persian decree.  That is a live argument.  But notice what it costs:  it requires Daniel 9 to be about something entirely different from Daniel 8, 11, and 12, which are all about Antiochus, and it leaves 11:2's four Persian kings unexplained.

The historical problems in chapters 1–6

Darius the Mede.  This is the sharpest historical difficulty in the book, and conservative scholarship says so.  Wiseman opens his own defense by quoting Rowley:  the references to Darius the Mede "have long been recognised as providing the most serious historical problem in the book."9

The problem is not that Darius is obscure.  It is that the sequence is occupied.  The Nabonidus Chronicle is a contemporary Babylonian document:  Cyrus defeated the Akkadian army at Opis;  Sippar fell on the 14th of Tashritu;  Nabonidus fled;  on the 16th, Ugbaru governor of Gutium entered Babylon with Cyrus's army without a battle;  on the 3rd of Arahsamna Cyrus himself entered;  Gubaru appointed the district officers;  on the night of the 11th of Arahsamna Ugbaru died.7  There is no gap for a Median king aged sixty-two to receive the kingdom and reign a year or more before Cyrus.

Three rescues have been tried.

Gubaru the governor (Whitcomb, 1959).  Wiseman's own objection stands:  Gubaru is nowhere called king, is nowhere called a Mede, is nowhere called son of Ahasuerus, and "there is no known instance of a governor of Babylon, other than a usurper, in the first millennium bearing a royal title and claiming a throne."9

Cyrus himself (Wiseman, 1957).  Daniel 6:28 is read "Daniel prospered in the reign of Darius, even the reign of Cyrus the Persian" — a known Hebrew construction, as in 1 Chronicles 5:26's Pul/Tiglath-pileser.  Cyrus was about sixty-two in 539, was of Median descent through his mother, and appointed governors.  Wiseman is careful to call it "only a theory," and concedes there is "no clear evidence for or against the claim that Cyrus was a 'son of Xerxes', or that he bore another name."9

Cyaxares II (Anderson, 2014).  A revival of the pre-1870s reading, resting on Xenophon's Cyropaedia, which has Cyrus serve a Median uncle-king.  Xenophon is the problem:  the Cyropaedia is a didactic romance, and Herodotus and the Babylonian records both have Astyages as the last Median king, deposed by Cyrus around 550.

None of these is nonsense.  None of them has an inscription.  A reader who is not already committed should record this as a genuine strike against the book's historical footing.

The four kingdoms follow from Darius.  This is the part of the Darius problem that carries the most weight, and it is usually discussed separately as though it were unrelated.

Daniel 2 and 7 each present four successive kingdoms.  Everyone agrees the first is Babylon.  The question is what the second and third are — and the answer decides what the fourth is.  Chapter 8 supplies the control:  its little horn grows out of the Greek goat and is unmistakably Antiochus IV, and it does what chapter 7's little horn does — magnifies itself, stops the sacrifice, persecutes the holy ones.  If the two little horns are the same figure, chapter 7's fourth kingdom is Greece.

If Daniel really believed a Median empire ruled Babylon before Persia — which is what "Darius the Mede received the kingdom" after Belshazzar amounts to — then the sequence is Babylon, Media, Persia, Greece, and the fourth kingdom is Antiochus IV's.  The book ends where the crisis of 167 BC ends, and there is no Rome in it.  Wiseman's own survey states the opposing view in the words of a critic he is answering:  Daniel 6:28 is "the clearest evidence of the book's belief in a Median empire between the Babylonian and the Persian," and Darius is "a figure constructed purely on the basis of a theory of the Median empire."9

If Darius is Cyrus, as Wiseman argues, the sequence is Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome — and Wiseman says so explicitly:  "This new theory should lead to the re-examination of any interpretation of the four world empires which required a separate Median and Persian empire, since the writer could now be shown to maintain the view of a single Medo-Persian realm throughout."9

That is the honest structure of the argument, and it should be stated where both sides can see it:  the identity of Darius the Mede and the identity of the fourth kingdom stand or fall together.  A conservative who cannot produce Darius cannot produce Rome.  Daniel 8:20's "the ram that you saw with the two horns stands for the kings of Media and Persia" — one animal, two horns, one kingdom — is the best evidence on the conservative side, and it is a real point.1  But it sits against Daniel 6, where a Median king reigns and a Persian succeeds him.

Daniel 1:1.  Nebuchadnezzar besieges Jerusalem "in the third year of the reign of King Jehoiakim of Judah."1  Jeremiah 25:1 and 46:2 put Nebuchadnezzar's accession and Carchemish in Jehoiakim's fourth year.  The standard conservative answer — Daniel counts by the Babylonian accession-year system, Jeremiah by the Judean system — is reasonable and is probably right.9  The residual problem is the siege itself:  the Babylonian Chronicle records the Carchemish campaign but no siege of Jerusalem in 605.  Wiseman states the position fairly:  "The argument against a specific Babylonian siege rests on silence just as must, at present, any defence of it."9

Nebuchadnezzar's madness.  Daniel 4 has Nebuchadnezzar driven from men for seven periods and restored.  No Babylonian source knows of it.  A Qumran text does know of something very like it, about a different king:  the Prayer of Nabonidus (4Q242) has Nabonidus "afflicted with an evil ulcer … for seven years," driven far from men at Tema, forgiven by a Jewish exorcist.16  Nabonidus really did spend about ten years at Tema, and the Verse Account really does accuse him of being deranged.8

The critical reading is that Daniel 4 has moved a Nabonidus tradition onto the more famous Nebuchadnezzar.  The conservative reading is that two kings' illnesses circulated and Daniel preserves the older one.  The tie-breaker most people miss:  the combination of Daniel 4 with Daniel 5 is what makes the transfer suspicious.  Chapter 5 shows the author knows Belshazzar, Nabonidus's son.  Chapter 4 shows him attaching Nabonidus's story to Nebuchadnezzar.  Whoever wrote these chapters had good Babylonian material and did not always attach it to the right king.

The languages

The classic statement is Driver's, and it is worth quoting exactly, because it is quoted constantly and usually mangled:

The verdict of the language of Daniel is thus clear.  The Persian words presuppose a period after the Persian empire had been well established:  the Greek words demand, the Hebrew supports, and the Aramaic permits, a date after the conquest of Palestine by Alexander the Great (b.c. 332). — S. R. Driver, An Introduction to the Literature of the Old Testament, p. 50817

Note what Driver actually claims.  The Greek demands a post-332 date.  The Hebrew merely supports it.  The Aramaic only permits it.  Driver himself ranks his own evidence, and two-thirds of it is soft.

Greek.  Three words, all in the orchestra of Daniel 3:  qaytros (kithara), pesanterin (psalterion), sumponyah (symphonia).  Kitchen's reply is that Greek goods, mercenaries and artisans were in the Near East from the eighth century — Greek pottery at Samaria around 750, at Nineveh, and "even to Babylon of all places" — so a Greek instrument name in sixth-century Babylon is not impossible.13  Mitchell and Joyce, handling the words themselves, concede the weak point plainly:  psalterion is not attested before Aristotle, and if sumponyah is symphonia used of an instrument, "then its use in Daniel is consonant with a late date for the composition of the book."14  They propose instead that it transliterates a dialect form of tympanon, and stress that "some of them are extremely uncertain."14

Hebrew.  Driver's list of some thirty late expressions was answered word by word by W. J. Martin in the 1965 volume, who showed that several — malkut above all — occur in Numbers, Samuel, Jeremiah.18  What Martin does not overturn is the general impression Driver reports from Delitzsch:  Daniel's Hebrew "resembles the Hebrew of the Chronicler," and the Chronicler wrote around the start of the Greek period.17  This matters more than it looks, because Daniel 8–12 is the Hebrew part.  Whatever the Aramaic proves, it does not date the visions.

Aramaic.  Here the conservative case is at its strongest, and it is still not decisive.  Kitchen's fifty-page study concludes that Daniel's Aramaic is Imperial Aramaic — the chancery language of the Persian empire — and that its word order "places it squarely in full-blooded Imperial Aramaic, and in striking contrast with real Palestinian post-Imperial Aramaic of the second and first centuries BC as illustrated by the Dead Sea Scrolls."13  His summary is scrupulous:

If proper allowance be made for attested scribal usage in the Biblical Near East … then there is nothing to decide the date of composition of the Aramaic of Daniel on the grounds of Aramaic anywhere between the late sixth and the second century BC. … It is equally obscurantist to exclude dogmatically a sixth-fifth (or fourth) century date on the one hand, or to hold such a date as mechanically proven on the other. — K. A. Kitchen, "The Aramaic of Daniel," p. 7913

Anyone who cites Kitchen as having proved a sixth-century date has not read his last page.

Where Daniel sits in the Jewish canon

The Hebrew Bible has three divisions.  Daniel is not in the Prophets.  The Talmud's list is explicit:  the Prophets are Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah and the Twelve;  the Writings are "Ruth and the book of Psalms, and Job and Proverbs;  Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, and Lamentations;  Daniel and the Scroll of Esther;  and Ezra and Chronicles."19

The late-date argument is that the prophetic collection closed before Daniel existed, so Daniel had to go in the third division.

This argument is weaker than it looks, and the reason is chronological.  Baba Batra is a rabbinic source of the fifth or sixth century AD.  Every earlier list that survives puts Daniel with the prophets — including two that explicitly claim to be reporting Jewish practice.

Melito, bishop of Sardis, writing about AD 170, says he travelled east specifically to settle the question — "when I went East and came to the place where these things were preached and done, I learned accurately the books of the Old Testament" — and his list runs:  "of Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah;  of the twelve prophets, one book;  Daniel, Ezekiel, Esdras."20  Daniel sits inside the prophetic block, between the Twelve and Ezekiel.

Origen, about seventy years later, gives the twenty-two books "as the Hebrews have handed them down," each with its Hebrew name, and the order is:  "Isaiah, Jessia;  Jeremiah, with Lamentations and the epistle in one, Jeremia;  Daniel, Daniel;  Ezekiel, Jezekiel;  Job, Job;  Esther, Esther."21  Same position.

Josephus, around AD 93, calls Daniel "one of the greatest of the prophets."15

The honest caveat is that Melito and Origen are Christians, and the Greek Bible they used groups Daniel with the prophets, so their arrangement may reflect Greek practice rather than Hebrew.  But both of them assert they are reporting the Jewish list, and neither shows any awareness of a three-part order with Daniel in the third part.  Whatever put Daniel in the Writings, the first evidence for it is centuries after the period at issue.

Placement in the Writings may also reflect a judgment about Daniel's role — a courtier and dream-interpreter, not a prophet sent to Israel — rather than about his date.  This argument should be demoted.  It is not evidence of a second-century composition;  it is evidence about how rabbinic Judaism eventually organised its Bible.

Ben Sira's silence

Around 180 BC Jesus ben Sira wrote a "Praise of the Fathers" running from Enoch to the high priest Simon.  He names Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, "the twelve prophets," Zerubbabel, Joshua son of Jozadak, Nehemiah, Enoch, Joseph, Shem, Seth and Adam.3  He does not name Daniel.

If Daniel was a famous sixth-century figure with a book, an encomium of Israel's worthies written fifteen years before Antiochus should mention him.

The counter is that this is an argument from silence, and the same list omits Ezra — who was certainly real, certainly earlier, and has a book.  Neither Ezra nor Job is named anywhere in the Greek Sirach, and Mordecai is missing too.  The argument has some force, because Ben Sira reads like a man working through a collection.  But a praise-list that drops Ezra cannot be used to prove that what it drops did not exist.

The theology

Driver's third argument was that Daniel's theology "points to a later age than that of the exile":  bodily resurrection (12:2), an elaborate hierarchy of angels with individual names and national assignments — Gabriel (8:16, 9:21), Michael "your prince" (10:21, 12:1) — and a developed apocalyptic eschatology.  These features are common in second-temple literature and rare or absent in the pre-exilic prophets.

Driver himself flagged the weakness, noting that the argument "has sometimes been stated in an exaggerated form."17  He was right to.  Resurrection language appears in Isaiah 26:19 and Ezekiel 37 on any dating;  angels appear throughout the Torah;  and "this idea developed late, therefore this book is late" is circular whenever the book in question is one of the pieces of evidence for when the idea developed.

Treat the theological argument as corroborating at best.  It never decides anything by itself, and both sides know it.

The genre

Every surviving Jewish apocalypse that names an author names an ancient one.  1 Enoch is attributed to Enoch, Jubilees to Moses, the Testaments to the twelve patriarchs, 4 Ezra to Ezra, 2 Baruch to Baruch — all written centuries after the figures they name.  The rest, like the Qumran War Scroll, are anonymous.  Several contain reviews of history cast as prophecy.  If Daniel 7–12 belongs to that genre, then a second-century date and an attribution to a sixth-century sage are exactly what the genre produces, and no deception need be involved.  The critical statement of the point:  "'authorship' in the ancient Jewish world, unlike in the modern, was used more as a genre marker than as an author attribution."12

Mesopotamia had the same convention earlier.  Five Akkadian texts — the Marduk Prophecy, the Shulgi Prophecy, the Uruk Prophecy, the Dynastic Prophecy, and "Text A" — narrate real past events in the form of predictions about unnamed future kings.  Joyce Baldwin, arguing the conservative side in the 1978 Tyndale Old Testament Lecture, set out how critics read Daniel 11 in the light of the Shulgi Prophecy:

More significant than verbal similarities is the correspondence between the form of this work and the alleged vaticinium ex eventu in Daniel 11, according to which the general Babylonian setting gives the appearance of a work written in the sixth century B.C.  The author's true standpoint is to be discerned at the moment of transition, when history can no longer be demonstrated to correspond to the events prophesied. — Joyce Baldwin, "Some Literary Affinities of the Book of Daniel"22

"According to which" marks this as the critics' reading, not Baldwin's own.  She rejects it for Daniel:  "I find no evidence in Daniel to suggest that any vaticinium ex eventu was intended."  What she grants is the likeness of form.  She agrees with the Assyriologist A. K. Grayson "that in form and style there is a striking resemblance," while holding that Daniel's purpose is different.22  She also notes that the Akkadian texts originated in Babylon centuries before the exile.22  That is a fair point about where the form was available, and no answer at all about the form itself.

The honest statement is that the genre argument establishes possibility, not fact.  "Apocalypses are usually pseudonymous" does not entail "this apocalypse is."  But it does dissolve the common apologetic move that a pseudonymous Daniel would have to be a forgery designed to deceive.  On the evidence of the genre, it would not.

Part 2 — The case for the sixth century

Belshazzar

For most of Christian history Daniel 5 was the book's worst embarrassment.  No king named Belshazzar appears in Herodotus, in Berossus, in Ctesias, or anywhere else;  every ancient list makes Nabonidus the last king of Babylon.  Commentators identified Daniel's Belshazzar with one or another known king and moved on.5

Cuneiform recovered him, in three stages.

A foundation inscription, c. 540 BC.  Nabonidus buried clay cylinders in the ziggurat at Ur recording his repairs to the temple of Sin.  The text ends in a prayer, and the prayer has two names in it:

As for me, Nabonidus, king of Babylon, save me from sinning against your great godhead and grant me as a present a life long of days, and as for Belshazzar, the eldest son — my offspring — instill reverence for your great godhead in his heart and may he not commit any cultic mistake, may he be sated with a life of plenitude. — Nabonidus Cylinder from Ur, iii.3–316

This is a contemporary royal document, written a year or two before Babylon fell, praying for the king and for one named son alongside him.  That is what a king does for a co-regent, and it is not what he does for an ordinary prince.

The Nabonidus Chronicle, published by Pinches, then showed the crown prince holding Babylonia with the army while the king was away at Tema.5

The Verse Account, published by Sidney Smith in 1924, said what that arrangement was:

when the third year was about to begin — he entrusted the army to his oldest son, his first born, the troops in the country he ordered under his command.  He let everything go, entrusted the kingship to him, and, himself, he started out for a long journey. — Verse Account of Nabonidus, ii.5–68

Popular treatments routinely merge the first and third of these into one document.  They are separate texts, found seventy years apart, and the case is stronger for their being independent.

Taken together this is a genuinely impressive result for the book, and it does three things at once.

It vindicates the name.  It vindicates the setting — a king in Babylon while the actual monarch was elsewhere.  And it explains a detail that had made no sense for two thousand years:  Belshazzar offers to make the interpreter of the writing "third ruler in the kingdom" (5:7, 5:16, 5:29).1  Why third?  Because first was Nabonidus and second was Belshazzar himself.  Third was the highest thing he had to give.

The force of this is easy to understate.  In 165 BC, in Judea, the information required to write Daniel 5 did not exist in any source we know of.  Greek historiography did not have it.  Jewish tradition did not have it.  It was in Akkadian, in Babylon, in documents nobody read again until the nineteenth century.

Two honest qualifications.

The "third ruler" reading is not unanimous.  Montgomery argued the Aramaic means "one of three" or a šalšu-officer, and Shea's defense of "third ruler" is an argument, not a demonstration.5

And no cuneiform text calls Belshazzar king.  Contracts continued to be dated by Nabonidus's regnal years;  Belshazzar never performed the New Year ceremony;  oaths were sworn in his name jointly with his father's, which is not the same thing.  Shea, defending the chapter, concedes it:  "Entrusting the kingship to Belshazzar, as mentioned in the Verse Account, is not the same as making him king."5  He then proposes that Belshazzar may have assumed the title late, after Nabonidus's capture — a reasonable conjecture with no text behind it.

So Daniel 5 knows things no second-century Judean could know, and calls Belshazzar something the records do not.  That is the actual shape of the evidence, and both halves are real.

Other things the court tales get right

The smaller details cluster the same way.  Nebuchadnezzar boasting "Is this not the great Babylon that I have built for a royal residence by my own mighty strength?" matches a king whose building inscriptions are among the most extensive in Mesopotamian history.1  Babylonian execution by fire and Persian execution by animals fit their respective settings.  "The law of the Medes and Persians which cannot be revoked" fits Persian legal ideology.  Daniel 2:37's "king of kings" is often called a Persian title and is not:  Wiseman traces it in Assyrian and Babylonian royal inscriptions back to Tiglath-pileser I.9

One more belongs on the list, and it is better than the rest because it is a negative detail.  Daniel 5 has Babylon change hands in a single night, during a banquet, with no siege and no battle described.  The Nabonidus Chronicle says the same thing in the flattest possible terms:  Sippar "was captured without a battle," and on the sixteenth of Tashritu Ugbaru and the army of Cyrus "without battle they entered Babylon."7  A writer inventing the fall of a great empire would give it a siege.  This one gives it a dinner party, and the Babylonian record agrees.

Individually these prove nothing.  Together they describe a writer who knows the sixth-century Babylonian court from inside, which is at least a fact in need of explanation.

The "Chaldeans" objection cuts less than it is made to.  Daniel uses kasdim both for the ethnic Babylonians and for a class of diviners, and critics call the second use an anachronism.  Two Greek historians use it the same way, and both are describing periods long before the second century.  Herodotus, in the fifth century, speaks of "the Chaldeans who are the priests of this god" in his description of the ziggurat at Babylon.23  Diodorus Siculus is more explicit still:  the Chaldeans "have about the same position among the divisions of the state as that occupied by the priests of Egypt;  for being assigned to the service of the gods they spend their entire life in study," and the training "is passed down in the family, and son takes it over from father, being relieved of all other services in the state."24  That is exactly Daniel's usage.  This objection should be dropped from the late-date brief.

Eight copies at Qumran

Fragments of eight Daniel scrolls were recovered from Caves 1, 4 and 6, covering substantial parts of chapters 1–11:  1Q71, 1Q72, 4Q112–4Q116, and 6Q7.11  That is "more copies than most books of the Hebrew Bible," in the words of three scholars who hold the late date.12

More important than the count is the status.  4Q174, the Florilegium, introduces a quotation from Daniel 12:10 with the formula normally reserved at Qumran for scripture — "which is written in the book of Daniel the prophet."25  Daniel is being read as a prophetic book, by a community whose own foundation is usually dated to the mid-second century.

The argument built on this is the "canonization speed" argument:  if Daniel was written in 164 BC, then within a few decades a sectarian community was copying it eight times and citing it as prophetic scripture.  That is fast.

It is not impossible.  The reply from the critical side is direct:  "If Daniel was written in the 160s BCE there were obviously manuscripts of the book in existence at that time and in the following years.  There is no evidence one way or another that this copy of Daniel was viewed as 'canonical.'"12  That answer is fair as far as it goes;  it does not address 4Q174's citation formula, which is about a different manuscript.

The wider diffusion points the same way without settling anything.  1 Maccabees, written around 100 BC, has the dying Mattathias hold up Daniel's friends and Daniel himself as examples — "Hananias, Azarias and Misael, because of their faith, were saved from fire.  Daniel, by his simplicity, was rescued from the mouth of lions."3  The Old Greek translation was made in the later second century BC, and a second Greek translation followed in the next century.12  Additions accumulated — Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, the Prayer of Azariah and the Song of the Three — which shows the book being expanded, not that it was old.  All of this is consistent with a book of 164 BC that spread fast, and equally consistent with a book of 530 BC.  It cannot bear the weight conservatives put on it.

The radiocarbon date, done properly

This is the newest evidence and the most mishandled, so it is worth working through carefully.

In June 2025 a team led by Mladen Popović published radiocarbon dates for 24 Dead Sea Scroll samples, using a cleaning protocol designed to remove the castor oil that contaminated earlier attempts, plus a machine-learning model trained on the resulting dates.10  One of the samples was 4Q114 — 4QDanielc — which preserves Daniel 10:5–9, 10:11–16, 10:21, 11:1–2, 11:13–17 and 11:25–29.26  That last block is Antiochus IV's first Egyptian campaign.  This is a manuscript of the disputed material, not of the safe part of the book.

The measurement:  2168 ± 15 BP, calibrated in OxCal 4.4.4 against IntCal20.10  10

Confidence Ranges
68.3% (1σ) 345–315 BC (33.8%); 205–175 BC (34.5%)
95.4% (2σ) 355–285 BC (49.5%); 230–160 BC (45.9%)

The paper's own text says only that "the accepted 2σ calibrated range for 4Q114, 230–160 BCE, overlaps with the period in which the final part of the biblical book of Daniel was presumably authored."10  The older band is set aside "based on comparative typological evidence from date-bearing Aramaic manuscripts from that period" — that is, on palaeography.10

Then the two popular readings arrived, and both are wrong.

Associates for Biblical Research reported "230–160 (mean 195) BC," concluding it is "highly improbable that Daniel was written after the death of Antiochus IV."11  A bimodal calibrated posterior does not have a usable mean;  averaging the endpoints of one hump is not a statistic.

Three critical scholars replied in February 2026 that the range "represents a span within which there is an equal probability throughout, rather than evidence favoring any specific year or decade within that range."12  The published intervals say otherwise.  A uniform distribution over 230–160 BC would not produce a 1σ highest-density interval of 205–175 BC holding 34.5% of the total probability.  Thirty years out of seventy carrying 34.5 of 45.9 percentage points is a density of about 1.15% per year against a band average of 0.66%.

Stated properly:  if the palaeographic rejection of the fourth-century band is accepted, then about three-quarters of the remaining probability — 34.5 of 45.9 — falls between 205 and 175 BC.  That is before Antiochus IV became king.  It is a copy, not an autograph;  the paper notes its scribal errors make it unlikely the scribe was the author.10  So on the study's own numbers, the most likely reading is that Daniel 11 was already being copied, imperfectly, a generation before the crisis it is said to describe.

Now the caveats, and they are not small.

This is one sample.  Parchment dates the animal, not the writing, and skins could be stored.  The study found systematically older dates than palaeography across many samples, which is either a real correction of a contaminated baseline or an uncorrected offset — and until it is replicated by another laboratory nobody can say which.  And the rejection of the 355–285 BC band is a palaeographic judgment made inside a paper whose central claim is that palaeographic judgments have been unreliable.  If that rejection is wrong, the date is fourth-century and the Maccabean thesis for Daniel 10–11 collapses;  if the whole measurement is offset, the date could be exactly where Cross put it.

What can be said without overreach:  4Q114 is now the single most important physical datum in the debate, it sits awkwardly for the standard critical model, and it is not yet strong enough to settle anything by itself.  A replication on a second Daniel fragment would be worth more than another decade of argument about musical instruments.

Three Greek words and no Greek government

The loanword profile is genuinely odd for a Hellenistic composition.

Daniel's Aramaic has around twenty Persian loanwords and three Greek ones.  All three Greek words are musical instruments in one list in one chapter.  There is no Greek word in Daniel for a governor, a garrison, a tax, a coin, a magistrate, a soldier, or an assembly — the vocabulary a Judean writing in 165 BC, after a century and a half of Seleucid and Ptolemaic administration, would use without thinking.

Kitchen puts the point sharply:  "Many Old Persian words alongside hardly any Greek words in our text suggest a date in the Persian age;  a document of Hellenistic date with a penchant for loan-words should have taken them from Greek (or Middle Persian)."13

The Persian words compound it.  They are Old Persian, not Middle Persian, which indicates no fresh borrowing after about 300 BC.  And four of them are so badly handled by the Septuagint translators that their meanings had already been lost — which argues, Kitchen says, "for a date before the second century BC."13

The obvious counter is that a skilled author writing historical fiction set in Babylon would avoid anachronisms.  It is a real counter, and it has a cost:  an author careful enough to suppress every Greek administrative term did not notice three Greek instrument names, and did not notice that Darius the Mede never existed.  Selective archaizing of that quality is hard to credit.

The limit on this argument must be stated, because it is the limit almost nobody states.  The loanwords are in the Aramaic.  Daniel 11 is in Hebrew.  The loanword evidence is excellent evidence about chapters 2–7 and says nothing whatever about chapters 8–12.

Ezekiel's Daniel

Ezekiel, writing in the same exile, names a proverbially righteous "Daniel" beside Noah and Job (14:14, 14:20) and a proverbially wise one (28:3).1  Conservatives read this as the book's Daniel.  Critics read it as the Ugaritic Dan'el of the Aqhat legend, a righteous judge from a text a thousand years older, which fits the company of Noah and Job — two non-Israelites from the distant past — better than a contemporary civil servant does.

The critical reading is the stronger one here, and conservatives should stop leaning on Ezekiel 14.  Ezekiel 28:3 addressing the king of Tyre with "you are wiser than Daniel" makes more sense as a reference to a figure the Tyrian court would recognize than to a young Judean official in Babylon.

Weak arguments that should be retired

Three conservative staples do not survive inspection, and an article that keeps them is not worth reading.

Susa "in the province of Elam" (8:2).  Archer argues that only an early author would place Susa in Elam, since the Persians reorganized the region as Susiana.  But "Elam" remained standard Hebrew usage for the region long afterwards, and Ezra kills the argument outright:  its list of deported peoples reads "the people of Susa (that is, the Elamites)" — a Persian-period text equating exactly the two terms Archer says only a sixth-century writer could have equated.1  The argument proves nothing.

Josephus's story that Alexander was shown Daniel's prophecy (Antiquities 11.337).  A late, legendary, and self-serving anecdote.  It is evidence that Daniel existed by Josephus's day, which nobody disputes.

"The book was already canonical by Qumran, so it must be old."  The premise smuggles in what it needs to prove.  Being copied and cited is not the same as being canonized, and the critical reply on this point is correct.

Part 3 — Weighing it

What each side has to explain away

The late date has to explain:  Belshazzar, and the third place in the kingdom, and the fact that this knowledge was unavailable in second-century Judea.  Around twenty Old Persian loanwords with no Greek administrative vocabulary.  An Imperial Aramaic word order unlike anything at Qumran.  Four Persian words already unintelligible to the Septuagint translators.  And 4Q114's radiocarbon date, whose likeliest value predates Antiochus IV's accession.

The early date has to explain:  a vision whose accuracy runs out in 164 BC and then fails.  Four ascending numbers for one crisis, two of them in consecutive verses.  A Median king who has no room in the Babylonian record and no inscription anywhere.  Hebrew that reads like the Chronicler's.  Ben Sira's silence.  And a genre in which every other surviving example is pseudonymous.

Two items that usually appear on the second list have been struck from it here.  The Writings-not-Prophets argument fails on chronology:  every list older than Baba Batra — Melito's, Origen's, and Josephus's usage — puts Daniel with the prophets.  The "Chaldeans" anachronism fails on Herodotus and Diodorus.  Neither is evidence for anything.

Neither list is answerable by the other side's best argument, because the two lists are about different halves of the book.

The strongest argument on each side

For the late date:  Daniel 11:40–45.  Not the accuracy of 11:2–39 — accuracy is what a prophecy is supposed to have — but the failure at the end, located exactly where the theory says the author's present must be.  No other explanation accounts for both the precision and the specific placement of the error.

For the early date:  Belshazzar, with 4Q114 second and rising.  Belshazzar is not a lucky guess.  It is a cluster of correct, obscure, mutually reinforcing facts about a court that had been forgotten for two millennia.

Where the uncertainty actually is

Strip out the polemics and the residue is this.

Chapters 1–6 look old.  The Babylonian knowledge is real, the Aramaic is Persian-period, and the loanword profile is wrong for a Hellenistic author.  Even scholars who date the visions to 165 BC generally allow that the tales are older.  On the evidence, the court tales are probably pre-Hellenistic, and the conservative case for them is better than the academy usually admits.

Chapters 8–12 are the contested ground, and there the evidence is bad for the early date in every respect except one — and that one, the radiocarbon date of 4Q114, is a single measurement on a single scrap that has not been replicated.

That is an uncomfortable place to stop.  It is where the evidence stops.

What would settle it

  • A second radiocarbon date on another Daniel fragment, ideally from chapters 8–12, run by an independent laboratory. If 4Q112 or 4Q113 returns a pre-175 BC date, the Maccabean thesis is in serious trouble. If they cluster after 160, 4Q114 is an outlier and the conservative case loses its best physical evidence.
  • Any cuneiform or Persian-period reference to Darius the Mede. One inscription would end the oldest objection to the book.
  • A pre-Maccabean citation of Daniel. Ben Sira's silence would be broken by any second- or third-century text quoting or naming the book.
  • Independent attestation of Nebuchadnezzar's illness in a Babylonian source, which would decouple Daniel 4 from the Nabonidus tradition.

Part 4 — What actually survives at 165 BC

Suppose the critical date is right.  What breaks?

Daniel 11 as prophecy — completely.  There is no version of the argument that survives.  Anyone using Daniel 11 as evidence for the supernatural is betting the whole argument on the sixth-century date.

The four kingdoms ending in Rome — probably.  Daniel 11:30's "ships of Kittim" is Rome, and the Roman embassy that turned Antiochus back from Egypt happened in 168 BC.  A second-century author knew about Rome.  The identification of the fourth kingdom as Rome, which Jerome treated as "the traditional interpretation of all the commentators of the Christian Church,"4 then becomes a later re-reading — which is exactly what the Jewish apocalypse 4 Ezra says it is doing, around AD 100:  "The eagle that you saw coming up from the sea is the fourth kingdom that appeared in a vision to your brother Daniel.  But it was not explained to him as I now explain to you."27

The seventy weeks — no.  Whatever Daniel 9:24–27 means, a document from 165 BC that speaks of an anointed one being cut off, and of a coming people destroying the city and the sanctuary, still predates the crucifixion by about two centuries and the destruction of the temple by more than two.  The most-used apologetic argument from Daniel does not depend on the date at all.  This deserves emphasis, because both sides argue as though it does.

The son of man — no.  Daniel 7:13–14's figure receiving everlasting dominion is pre-Christian on any dating, and it is the title Jesus used of himself more than any other.

Resurrection — no.  Daniel 12:2 is pre-Christian on any dating.

The book's own voice — yes, and this is the real issue.  Daniel 7:2, 8:1, 9:2, 10:2 and 12:5 speak in the first person.  If the visions were written in 165 BC, those sentences were written by someone who was not Daniel, about visions he did not have, dated to reigns he did not live under.  Whether that is compatible with inspiration is a theological question with a long literature and no empirical test.  It should be argued on those terms, and not smuggled into a historical debate as though it were evidence.

And Jesus' reference in Matthew 24:15 — "the abomination of desolation, spoken about by Daniel the prophet" — is a real datum for anyone who holds a high view of Christ's teaching.1  It is not a knockdown historical argument, since naming a book by its traditional author was ordinary usage.  But it is not nothing, and pretending otherwise is dishonest in the other direction.

Objections and responses

"The consensus is settled;  only fundamentalists question it."  The consensus is real and it is not stupid, but it has an inconvenient feature:  the best conservative technical work — Kitchen on the Aramaic, Wiseman on the Babylonian records — has never been refuted so much as bypassed.  And the consensus itself has moved:  the composite view now concedes that chapters 1–6 are older than 165 BC, which is a substantial retreat from Driver.

"Only inerrantists question it — no serious scholar holds an early date."  Both halves of this are false.  Evangelical scholars are on both sides:  Lucas, Goldingay, Buster and Walton hold the mainstream view;  Steinmann, Sprinkle and Tanner hold the traditional one.12  The dividing line runs through the evangelical academy, not around it.

"Daniel 11 is too detailed to be prophecy — no real prophecy works like that."  This is an argument from what prophecy ought to look like, which is not evidence.  The evidential argument is the different one made above:  the accuracy is lopsided in favor of the second century and it fails at 11:40.

"The failure at 11:40–45 refers to a future Antichrist."  Possible, and Jerome's church held it.  But it requires an unmarked change of subject in mid-paragraph, and Daniel already uses "time of the end" for a vision about Antiochus (8:17).  A reading that has to be supplied to save a text is weaker than a reading the text supplies.

"The Dead Sea Scrolls prove an early date."  They do not prove it.  Eight copies and a scriptural citation formula make a 164 BC composition tight, not impossible.  The radiocarbon date on 4Q114 is stronger than the manuscript count, and it is one measurement.

"A pseudonymous book cannot be Scripture."  That is a theological premise, not a historical finding, and it is not obviously true — Hebrews is anonymous, the Psalm headings are debated, and ancient attribution conventions differed from modern ones.  Whatever one concludes, it should not be allowed to decide a question about Babylonian regnal records.

"Belshazzar proves the whole book."  It does not.  It proves that chapter 5 rests on real sixth-century Babylonian information.  It says nothing about who wrote the Hebrew visions three chapters later, in a different language, about a different century.

"The popular defenses of Daniel already answer all this."  They do not, and the gap is worth naming, because it is the reason this article exists.  Take the best-known free treatment:  Mike Winger's "Defending Daniel," a fifty-one-minute lecture from 2016 that has served as many people's introduction to the question.  It is careful in places — it is right that the Persian loanwords are Old Persian, and it supplies the canon-list point used above, which most academic treatments omit.28  But it lists seven critic arguments and Daniel 11 is not one of them.  The failure at 11:40–45 is never mentioned.  Neither is Ben Sira, nor the 1,290-and-1,335-day revisions.28  Its first and longest "critic argument" is that "prophecy is impossible," presented as Porphyry's actual reason.28  Jerome, our only source for Porphyry, reports something quite different — that the book "contained authentic history" up to Antiochus and then went "false."4  Answering "prophecy is impossible" is easy.  It is also answering the wrong argument.

Smaller slips in the same talk illustrate how the popular version drifts:  it counts four Greek loanwords where there are three, and it presents the Nabonidus Cylinder and the Verse Account as quotations from "the same cylinders," when they are separate documents published seventy years apart.28  None of that is dishonest.  It is what happens when a case is transmitted rather than checked.

Verdict

The date of Daniel cannot presently be settled, and the reason is that the book is not one thing.

The court tales of chapters 1–6 carry information about the Babylonian court — Belshazzar's existence, his position, and why third place was the best on offer — that was not available to anyone in second-century Judea.  Their Aramaic is Imperial, their Persian loanwords are Old Persian and partly already unintelligible by the time the Greek translation was made, and they contain no Greek administrative vocabulary at all.  On the evidence, these chapters are pre-Hellenistic, and probably considerably older than the visions.

The visions of chapters 8–12 are a different matter.  They are in late Hebrew.  Their historical detail is dense exactly where a second-century author's knowledge would be dense and thin exactly where it would be thin.  They give four different, ascending durations for one crisis.  And they end with a specific prediction about the death of Antiochus IV that did not happen — he died at Tabae in Persia, not between the seas and the holy mountain.

Against all of that stands one hard measurement:  4Q114, a copy of Daniel 10–11 including the Antiochus material, whose radiocarbon date most probably falls between 205 and 175 BC.  If that date holds up under replication, the Maccabean thesis for these chapters is finished.  If it does not, the case for the late date is very strong.

So the position taken here is:  chapters 1–6, early;  chapters 8–12, unresolved, with the balance of the literary evidence favoring the second century and the balance of the physical evidence favoring the third or early second.  That is not a satisfying answer.  It is the answer the evidence currently supports, and the alternative — picking the half of the evidence that suits one's theology and calling the question closed — is what both sides have been doing for a hundred and fifty years.

One last observation, for readers on either side.  The argument that most Christians actually need from Daniel — the seventy weeks, the son of man, the resurrection — survives the late date intact.  The argument that dies is the one from Daniel 11, which is the one nobody in the pews has read.  It would be a strange trade to stake the credibility of the book on the chapter fewest people can quote.

Sources

Bible quotations are from the NET Bible unless otherwise noted.1


  1. 1.

    NET Bible.  Biblical Studies Press.  n.d.  An English translation of the Bible, quoted here verse by verse.  The article quotes its wording of each verse it discusses, from Daniel and from other books. ↩

    1. 1a.

      Verse Daniel 11:44–45:  “But reports will trouble him from the east and north, and he will set out in a tremendous rage to destroy and wipe out many.  He will pitch his royal tents between the seas toward the beautiful holy mountain.  But he will come to his end, with no one to help him.” ↩ ↩

    2. 1b.

      Verse Daniel 8:14:  “To 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be put right again.”  Verse Daniel 7:25:  “for a time, times, and half a time.”  Verse Daniel 12:11–12:  “there are 1,290 days.  Blessed is the one who waits and attains to the 1,335 days.” ↩

    3. 1c.

      Verse Daniel 5:29:  “Then, on Belshazzar's orders, Daniel was clothed in purple, a golden collar was placed around his neck, and he was proclaimed third ruler in the kingdom.” ↩ ↩

    4. 1d.

      Verse Daniel 5:31:  “So Darius the Mede took control of the kingdom when he was about sixty-two years old.”  Verse Daniel 9:1:  “In the first year of Darius son of Ahasuerus, who was of Median descent and who had been appointed king over the Babylonian empire.”  Verse Daniel 6:28:  “So this Daniel prospered during the reign of Darius and the reign of Cyrus the Persian.” ↩

    5. 1e.

      Verse Daniel 8:17:  “the vision pertains to the time of the end.” ↩

    6. 1f.

      Verse Daniel 8:20–21:  “The ram that you saw with the two horns stands for the kings of Media and Persia.  The male goat is the king of Greece, and the large horn between its eyes is the first king.” ↩

    7. 1g.

      Verse Daniel 9:24–27. ↩

    8. 1h.

      Verse Daniel 1:1:  “In the third year of the reign of King Jehoiakim of Judah, King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon advanced against Jerusalem and laid it under siege.” ↩

    9. 1i.

      Verse Ezekiel 14:14:  “Even if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they would save only their own lives by their righteousness.”  Verse Ezekiel 28:3:  “Look, you are wiser than Daniel; no secret is hidden from you.” ↩

    10. 1j.

      Verse Daniel 4:30:  “The king uttered these words:  'Is this not the great Babylon that I have built for a royal residence by my own mighty strength and for my majestic honor?'” ↩

    11. 1k.

      Verse Ezra 4:9:  Listing the peoples resettled in Samaria:  “the Erechites, the Babylonians, the people of Susa (that is, the Elamites).”  Verse Daniel 8:2:  Compare:  “In this vision I saw myself in Susa the citadel, which is located in the province of Elam.” ↩

    12. 1l.

      Verse Matthew 24:15:  “So when you see the abomination of desolation—spoken about by Daniel the prophet—standing in the holy place.” ↩

  2. 2.

    Polybius of Megalopolis.  Histories.  c. 150 BC.  A history written c. 150–120 BC.  Polybius was a contemporary of Antiochus IV and knew people who had met him.  The article uses him as an independent account of how Antiochus IV died, which it sets against Daniel 11:44–45.

    1. 2a.

      Book 31, section 9:  Translation by W. R. Paton in the Loeb Classical Library, online at https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Polybius/31*.html.  “In Syria King Antiochus, wishing to provide himself with money, decided to make an expedition against the sanctuary of Artemis in Elymaïs.  On reaching the spot he was foiled in his hopes, as the barbarian tribes who dwelt in the neighbourhood would not permit the outrage, and on his retreat he died at Tabae in Persia, smitten with madness, as some people say, owing to certain manifestations of divine displeasure when he was attempting this outrage on the above sanctuary.” ↩ ↩

  3. 3.

    A New English Translation of the Septuagint.  Oxford University Press.  2007.  An English translation of the Septuagint (LXX), the Greek version of the Hebrew Scriptures, based on the standard critical Greek editions.  The article uses the series for the wording of 1 Maccabees, Sirach and Daniel, and for the Old Greek of Daniel 11.

    1. 3a.

      1 Makkabees, translated by George T. Zervos (Oxford University Press, 2007/2009).  Online PDF: https://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/20-1makk-nets.pdf.

    2. 3b.

      Verse 1 Maccabees 6:1–16:  In the text Antiochus.  “heard that Elymais is a city in Persia distinguished for its wealth in silver and gold … he came and sought to take the city and to plunder it, and he was not able.”  On hearing of his generals' defeat and the cleansing of the sanctuary,  “he fell upon his bed and fell into illness from grief … 'now look, I am perishing with great grief in a foreign land.'”  Verse 1 Maccabees 6:16:  “And Antiochus the king died there in the one hundred forty-ninth year.” ↩ ↩

    3. 3c.

      Verse 1 Maccabees 1:54:  “on the fifteenth day of Chaseleu in the one hundred and forty-fifth year, he constructed an abomination of desolation on the altar.”  Verse 1 Maccabees 4:52–53:  “they arose on the morning of the twenty-fifth of the ninth month, this being the month Chaseleu, of the one hundred and forty-eighth year, and they offered sacrifice according to the law on the new altar.”  Seleucid year 145 = 167 BC;  year 148 = 164 BC. ↩ ↩

    4. 3d.

      Verse 1 Maccabees 2:59–60:  In Mattathias's deathbed speech:  “Hananias, Azarias and Misael, because of their faith, were saved from fire.  Daniel, by his simplicity, was rescued from the mouth of lions.”  1 Maccabees was composed around 100 BC and shows the Daniel stories already circulating as examples. ↩

    5. 3e.

      Sirach (Ben Sira, Ecclesiasticus), translated by Benjamin G. Wright III (Oxford University Press, 2007/2009).  Online PDF: https://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/30-sirach-nets.pdf.  The Hebrew original was written about 180 BC;  the translator's prologue dates his own work to the thirty-eighth year of Euergetes, about 132 BC.

    6. 3f.

      Verse Sirach 49:6–16:  The Praise of the Fathers names Jeremiah,  “Iezekiel who saw a vision of glory”.  “the twelve prophets”.  Zorobabel, Iesous son of Iosedek, Neemias, Henoch, Ioseph, Sem, Seth and Adam.  Daniel is absent;  so is Ezra.  Ben Sira wrote about 180 BC.  Online PDF: https://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/30-sirach-nets.pdf. ↩

    7. 3g.

      Daniel, translated by R. Timothy McLay (Oxford University Press, 2007/2009), printing the Old Greek and Theodotion in parallel columns.  Based on the Göttingen critical editions of Ziegler and Munnich (1999).  Online PDF: https://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/40-daniel-nets.pdf.

    8. 3h.

      Verse Old Greek Daniel 11:40:  “And according to the time of consummation the king of Egypt will lock horns with him.”  The Old Greek renders the Hebrew.  “king of the south”.  as.  “king of Egypt”.  throughout chapter 11 (vv. 5, 8, 9, 11, 25, 40, 42), where Theodotion keeps.  “king of the south”.  .  Verse Old Greek Daniel 11:45:  The Old Greek also drops the untranslatable.  “Apedno”.  of Theodotion:  “he will set up his tent then between the seas and the mountain of the will of the holy one.” ↩

  4. 4.

    Jerome.  Commentary on Daniel.  Pages 15–157.  Grand Rapids: Baker.  Translated by Gleason L. Archer.  c. 407 (edition of 1958).  A commentary on Daniel that Jerome wrote c. AD 407.  It preserves substantial portions of Porphyry's lost twelfth book Against the Christians (c. AD 270), which survives nowhere else.  The article relies on it for Porphyry's arguments.

    1. 4a.

      Section Prologue, page 15:  “Porphyry wrote his twelfth book against the prophecy of Daniel, denying that it was composed by the person to whom it is ascribed in its title, but rather by some individual living in Judaea at the time of the Antiochus who was surnamed Epiphanes.  He furthermore alleged that 'Daniel' did not foretell the future so much as he related the past, and lastly that whatever he spoke of up till the time of Antiochus contained authentic history, whereas anything he may have conjectured beyond that point was false, inasmuch as he would not have foreknown the future.”  Section Prologue, pages 15–16:  “because Porphyry saw that all these things had been fulfilled and could not deny that they had taken place, he overcame this evidence of historical accuracy by taking refuge in this evasion.” ↩ ↩ ↩

    2. 4b.

      Section on 11:2, page 119:  “after he has specified four kings of Persia after Cyrus, the author [i.e., Daniel] omits the nine (C) others and passes right on to Alexander. For the Spirit of prophecy was not concerned about preserving historical detail but in summarizing only the most important matters.”  The bracket is Archer's.  "(C)" refers to one of Migne's notes, which Archer translates in an appendix;  the article's text leaves it out. ↩

    3. 4c.

      Section on 11:44–45, pages 140–142:  Jerome reports Porphyry's reconstruction: Antiochus turning back from Egypt, defeating Artaxias of Armenia, camping at a place Jerome calls Apedno between the Tigris and Euphrates, and objects:  “it cannot be shown that he took up his seat between two seas, and it would be foolish to interpret the two seas as being the two rivers of Mesopotamia.”  Jerome then records Porphyry's own account of the death:  “when he purposed to plunder the temple of Diana, which contained countless sums of money, he was routed by the barbarians … And Antiochus, being overcome with grief, died in Tabes, a town in Persia.”  Jerome's fallback:  “even though he were able to prove that these statements applied to Antiochus instead of the Antichrist, what does that matter to us?” ↩

    4. 4d.

      Section on 7:8, page 77:  “We should therefore concur with the traditional interpretation of all the commentators of the Christian Church, that at the end of the world, when the Roman Empire is to be destroyed, there shall be ten kings who will partition the Roman world amongst themselves.” ↩

  5. 5.

    Shea, William H.  “Nabonidus, Belshazzar, and the Book of Daniel: An Update.”  Andrews University Seminary Studies 20(2):133–149.  1982.  A review of the evidence on Nabonidus and Belshazzar, published in the Summer 1982 issue of the journal.  Shea argues that no cuneiform text calls Belshazzar king, even though the Verse Account says Nabonidus entrusted the kingship to him.  The article uses it for the point that no cuneiform text gives Belshazzar the title king, which it counts as one of Daniel 5's errors.

    1. 5a.

      Page 133:  “Aside from references in works dependent upon Daniel, such as Baruch and Josephus, Belshazzar was unknown until his identity was recovered from cuneiform sources in the last half of the nineteenth century.  Before that, interpreters of Daniel generally identified him with one or another of the previously known Neo-Babylonian kings.  Belshazzar's name was first found in Neo-Babylonian texts deciphered in the 1860s.” ↩ ↩ ↩

    2. 5b.

      Pages 134–135:  “Entrusting the kingship to Belshazzar, as mentioned in the Verse Account, is not the same as making him king.  The Verse Account refers to Belshazzar as the king's eldest son … Oaths were taken in Belshazzar's name and jointly in his name and [his father's] … this is not the equivalent of calling him king.”  Shea's own proposal is that Belshazzar assumed the royal title only after Nabonidus's capture. ↩ ↩

    3. 5c.

      Pages 141–143:  Reviews J. A. Montgomery's objection that the Aramaic term should be rendered "one of three," "a thirdling," or a šalšu-officer rather than "third ruler," and argues against it on the ground that in Daniel 5 the office is to rule as third in the kingdom rather than to hold a military rank. ↩

  6. 6.

    Nabonidus Cylinder from Ur.  Translated by Paul-Alain Beaulieu.  c. 540 BC.  Column iii, lines 3–31.  A foundation text recording Nabonidus's repairs to the ziggurat E-lugal-galga-sisa at Ur, described as "probably the king's last building inscription."  Four such cylinders were recovered from the ziggurat foundations by J. G. Taylor in the 1850s.  The article uses it for the cylinder's prayer for Belshazzar beside the king himself.  Its translator, Paul-Alain Beaulieu, is the author of The Reign of Nabonidus, King of Babylon 556–539 B.C. (1989). ↩ ↩

  7. 7.

    The Nabonidus Chronicle (ABC 7).  n.d.  Column iii, lines 12–23:  “On the fourteenth day Sippar was captured without a battle.  Nabonidus fled.  On the sixteenth day, Ugbaru, governor of Gutium, and the army of Cyrus, without battle they entered Babylon. … On the third day of the month Arahsamna, Cyrus entered Babylon. … Gubaru, his district officer, appointed the district officers in Babylon. … On the night of the eleventh of the month Arahsamna, Ugbaru died.”  A Babylonian chronicle, which the article treats as a document written at the time of the events it describes.  The article uses it for the crown prince holding Babylonia while Nabonidus was at Tema, for the sequence of Ugbaru and Cyrus, and for the entry into Babylon without a battle. ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩

  8. 8.

    Verse Account of Nabonidus.  n.d.  Column ii, lines 5–6:  “when the third year was about to begin — he entrusted the army to his oldest son, his first born, the troops in the country he ordered under his command.  He let everything go, entrusted the kingship to him, and, himself, he started out for a long journey. … he turned to Tayma deep in the west.”  The same text accuses Nabonidus of building "a work of utter deceit" and is the principal source for the tradition that he was deranged.  A Babylonian verse text about Nabonidus.  The article uses it for its account of Nabonidus handing the kingship to his son and leaving for Tema, and for its charge that Nabonidus was deranged. ↩ ↩ ↩

  9. 9.

    Wiseman, D. J.  “Some Historical Problems in the Book of Daniel.”  Notes on Some Problems in the Book of Daniel, 9–18.  London: The Tyndale Press.  Edited by D. J. Wiseman.  1965.  A chapter by D. J. Wiseman, who also edited the 1965 Tyndale Press collection it appears in.  It takes up the book's historical problems one at a time and checks them against cuneiform texts such as the Nabonidus Chronicle.  The article cites it as the main conservative defence of the book's history and quotes its own admissions about the hardest problem, Darius the Mede. ↩

    1. 9a.

      Page 9:  Opening by quoting H. H. Rowley:  “'The references to Darius the Mede in the Book of Daniel have long been recognised as providing the most serious historical problem in the book.'”  Page 10:  “There is thus no room for the reign of a king Darius or for a 'Median empire' between the fall of the Chaldean Dynasty and the inauguration of the Achaemenid suzerainty at Babylon.” ↩ ↩

    2. 9b.

      Pages 10–11:  “There is no known instance of a governor of Babylon, other than a usurper, in the first millennium bearing a royal title and claiming a throne, as would be required by this theory.  Gubaru is nowhere described as 'son of Ahasuerus' … Similarly no evidence can be adduced that Gubaru was a Mede.” ↩

    3. 9c.

      Page 16:  “As in the case of the Gubaru theory, there is as yet no clear evidence for or against the claim that Cyrus was a 'son of Xerxes', or that he bore another name.”  Page 15:  Wiseman calls his identification of Darius with Cyrus a view that.  “must remain only a theory and be further tested.” ↩ ↩

    4. 9d.

      Pages 17–18:  On Daniel 1:1 and the Babylonian accession-year system versus.  “the usual Palestinian-Jewish antedating.” ↩

    5. 9e.

      Page 18:  “The argument against a specific Babylonian siege rests on silence just as must, at present, any defence of it. … The extant historical data does not allow any dogmatic assertion against the historical accuracy of this verse.” ↩

    6. 9f.

      Page 9:  Quoting James Barr in Peake's Commentary on the Bible (1962), pp. 592 and 597.  Barr's two phrases say that Daniel 6:28 is.  “the clearest evidence of the book's belief in a Median empire between the Babylonian and the Persian”.  Page 15:  footnote 17, and that Darius the Mede is.  “a figure constructed purely on the basis of a theory of the Median empire”.  Wiseman cites them as the position his chapter is written to answer. ↩

    7. 9g.

      Pages 16–17:  “This new theory should lead to the re-examination of any interpretation of the four world empires which required a separate Median and Persian empire, since the writer could now be shown to maintain the view of a single Medo-Persian realm throughout.” ↩

    8. 9h.

      Page 12:  In footnote 14:  “The title 'King of Kings' (Dn. 2:37) is not a Persian title as often argued … but was used in royal inscriptions by both Assyrian and Babylonian kings from Tiglath-pileser I (c. 1100 BC) onwards.” ↩

  10. 10.

    Popović, Mladen et al.  “Dating ancient manuscripts using radiocarbon and AI-based writing style analysis.”  PLOS One 20(6):e0323185.  Jun 4, 2025.  A 2025 paper in the open-access journal PLOS One by a team from several European universities, with Mladen Popović of the University of Groningen as first author.  The team radiocarbon-dated 30 manuscripts, 25 of them from the Qumran caves, after a cleaning step designed to remove the castor oil that had contaminated earlier samples, and it got 27 valid dates.  The article cites it for the 2025 radiocarbon date of the Daniel scroll 4Q114 and for what the paper says that date shows. ↩

    1. 10a.

      Tables S2 Appendix, table of radiocarbon results:  4Q114 (4QDanc), laboratory numbers GrM-13252/GrM-13253, 14C age 2168 ± 15 BP; 1σ 345–315 and 205–175 BCE; 2σ 355–285 and 230–160 BCE. ↩ ↩

    2. 10b.

      Figures S3 Appendix, OxCal v4.4.4 calibration plots:  Calibration curve IntCal20 (Reimer et al. 2020).  For 4Q114, R_Date(2168,15): 68.3% probability, (33.8%) 345–315 calBCE and (34.5%) 205–175 calBCE; 95.4% probability, (49.5%) 355–285 calBCE and (45.9%) 230–160 calBCE. ↩ ↩

    3. 10c.

      Section S4 Appendix, p. 7:  “4Q114 preserves Daniel 8–11, a part of the book which scholars argue on literary-historical grounds to have been composed in the 160s BCE.  4Q114 has a 2σ calibrated range of 230–160 (45.9%) and an older 2σ range of 355–285 (49.5%) that can be rejected as a possible solution based on comparative typological evidence from date-bearing Aramaic manuscripts from that period.”  The same page records that Cross.  “wavered with his palaeographic estimate of the 'semicursive' 4Q114 from the late second century BCE (125–100) to ca. 100–50 BCE, and, under influence of the finds of Wadi Daliyeh, back to the late second century BCE”. ↩ ↩

    4. 10d.

      Section main text, page 3:  “Sample 4Q114 is one of the most significant findings of the 14C results. … The accepted 2σ calibrated range for 4Q114, 230–160 BCE, overlaps with the period in which the final part of the biblical book of Daniel was presumably authored (see Sect 4.1.2 in S4 Appendix).” ↩

    5. 10e.

      Section S4 Appendix, p. 7:  “Because of its scribal errors, it is unlikely that the scribe of 4Q114 was the author.” ↩

  11. 11.

    Wood, Bryant G.  “Dead Sea Scroll 4Q114 and the Date of Daniel.”  Associates for Biblical Research.  Oct 11, 2025.  “The new radiocarbon date, however, is 230–160 (mean 195) BC, making it highly improbable that Daniel was written after the death of Antiochus IV.”  A short popular article by Bryant G. Wood, PhD, on the website of Associates for Biblical Research.  It reports a 2025 radiocarbon date for the Daniel scroll 4Q114 and reads it as making a writing after the death of Antiochus IV in 164 BC highly improbable.  The article uses it as an example of a popular treatment that gives a mean for a two-humped radiocarbon result, which the article calls a misreading. ↩ ↩

    1. 11a.

      Lists the eight Daniel manuscripts:  1Q71 (chs. 1–2), 1Q72 (ch. 3), 4Q112 (chs. 1–5, 7, 8, 10, 11), 4Q113 (chs. 5–8), 4Q114 (chs. 10–11), 4Q115 (chs. 3, 4, 7), 4Q116 (ch. 9), and 6Q7 (fragments of chs. 8, 10, 11).  Wood also notes that Daniel 12:10 is quoted in 4Q174, the Florilegium. ↩

  12. 12.

    Young, Ian et al.  “Redating the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Book of Daniel.”  The Bible and Interpretation (University of Arizona).  Feb 2026.  On the statistics:  “the calibrated range of 230–160 BCE represents a span within which there is an equal probability throughout, rather than evidence favoring any specific year or decade within that range.”  On the conservative use:  “They argue, for example, that a date range of 230–160 BCE averages out as 195 BCE … this is not how carbon date ranges work.”  A web essay of February 2026 by Ian Young, Gareth Wearne and Evan Caddy of the Australian Catholic University.  It explains the 2025 radiocarbon dates on the Daniel scroll 4Q114 and argues for the mainstream view that Daniel's visions were written in the 160s BCE.  The article cites it for that view, for its answers to the objections, and for its list of evangelical commentators on each side. ↩ ↩

    1. 12a.

      Section Determining the Book of Daniel's Age:  “Scholars respond first of all by pointing out that 'authorship' in the ancient Jewish world, unlike in the modern, was used more as a genre marker than as an author attribution.  Writing various works under the name of Moses, Solomon, Ezra, Enoch, or others, in a range of historical contexts, marked them as belonging to the same intellectual stream as other works with the same attribution.” ↩

    2. 12b.

      Section Reading the Apocalypse, from Ancient to Modern Times:  “The earliest Greek translation of Daniel is usually dated to the latter part of the second century BCE, its early translation showing the regard in which the book was held.  So important was Daniel thought to be, in fact, that a second translation was made into Greek in the following century.” ↩ ↩

    3. 12c.

      Section Determining the Book of Daniel's Age:  “The Book of Daniel as we know it is formed by a combination of the four visions focused on the crisis under Antiochus with an older story collection, and thus Daniel is commonly dated to a few years before 160 BCE.” ↩

    4. 12d.

      Section n. 9:  “The traditional view is especially upheld by self-identified Conservative Evangelicals.  Many scholars who identify as Evangelical, however, hold to the mainstream scholarly view.”  They list Steinmann (Concordia, 2008), Sprinkle (Lexham, 2020) and Tanner (Lexham Academic, 2020) for the traditional view, and Lucas (Apollos, 2002), Goldingay (WBC rev. edn, 2019) and Buster with Walton (NICOT, 2025) for the mainstream one. ↩ ↩

    5. 12e.

      Section n. 11:  “If Daniel was written in the 160s BCE there were obviously manuscripts of the book in existence at that time and in the following years.  There is no evidence one way or another that this copy of Daniel was viewed as 'canonical.'” ↩

    6. 12f.

      Section Reading the Apocalypse, from Ancient to Modern Times:  “This is one of eight Daniel manuscripts found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, more copies than most books of the Hebrew Bible.” ↩

  13. 13.

    Kitchen, K. A.  “The Aramaic of Daniel.”  Notes on Some Problems in the Book of Daniel, 31–79.  London: The Tyndale Press.  Edited by D. J. Wiseman.  1965.  A study of the Aramaic of Daniel that examines its vocabulary, its spelling and sounds, and its grammar and word order.  Kitchen says the whole period c. 540–160 BC should stay open until the Aramaic is fully studied.  The article calls his conclusion the best statement of the linguistic evidence.

    1. 13a.

      Page 79:  “If proper allowance be made for attested scribal usage in the Biblical Near East (including orthographical and morphological change, both official and unofficial), then there is nothing to decide the date of composition of the Aramaic of Daniel on the grounds of Aramaic anywhere between the late sixth and the second century BC. … The date of the book of Daniel, in short, cannot be decided upon linguistic grounds alone.  It is equally obscurantist to exclude dogmatically a sixth-fifth (or fourth) century date on the one hand, or to hold such a date as mechanically proven on the other, as far as the Aramaic is concerned.” ↩ ↩

    2. 13b.

      Pages 78–79:  “The word-order of the Aramaic of Daniel (and Ezra) places it squarely in full-blooded Imperial Aramaic—and in striking contrast with real Palestinian post-Imperial Aramaic of the second and first centuries BC as illustrated by the Dead Sea Scrolls.” ↩

    3. 13c.

      Pages 77–78:  “In the LXX versions, some four Persian words are so poorly 'translated' that their meanings must have been lost long beforehand; this would argue for a date before the second century BC. … The Persian words are Old Persian, not Middle; this indicates no independent borrowing of Persian words into Daniel after c. 300 BC.”  And on Greek:  “Many Old Persian words alongside hardly any Greek words in our text suggest a date in the Persian age; a document of Hellenistic date with a penchant for loan-words should have taken them from Greek (or Middle Persian).  Hence, a second-century date cannot be based on three Greek words.” ↩ ↩ ↩

    4. 13d.

      Pages 44–45:  On Greek material in the Near East from the eighth century: Euboean traders at Al Mina,  “an Argive crater from the Samaria of Jeroboam II, c. 750 BC,”.  Greek pottery reaching Nineveh, and in the seventh century.  “even to Babylon of all places.” ↩

  14. 14.

    Mitchell, T. C., and R. Joyce.  “The Musical Instruments in Nebuchadnezzar's Orchestra.”  Notes on Some Problems in the Book of Daniel, 19–27.  London: The Tyndale Press.  Edited by D. J. Wiseman.  1965.  A chapter in the same 1965 Tyndale Press volume, mostly written by T. C. Mitchell, with R. Joyce supplying the section on psalterion and symphonia (pp. 25–27).  It compares the instrument names in Daniel 3 with instruments shown in ancient Near Eastern art and with the early translations, starting from a sixth-century date as a working hypothesis.  The article cites it for the Greek names in Daniel 3, where the authors admit their weakest point.

    1. 14a.

      Page 26:  “Consequently it appears that, if sûmpōneyâ is a borrowing of symphōnia in the sense of an instrument, then its use in Daniel is consonant with a late date for the composition of the book.” ↩ ↩

    2. 14b.

      Page 26:  “If these suggestions are accepted—and it must be stressed that, in the state of the evidence, some of them are extremely uncertain.”  Page 25:  They also note that psalterion.  “is not found before Aristotle.” ↩

  15. 15.

    Josephus, Flavius.  Antiquities of the Jews.  Translated by William Whiston.  c. 93.  A history of the Jews by Flavius Josephus, whose retelling of Daniel is in Antiquities 10.10–11 (§186–281).  The article cites it as an early reader of Daniel who ties the visions both to Antiochus and to Rome.

    1. 15a.

      Section 10.11.7:  “And indeed it so came to pass, that our nation suffered these things under Antiochus Epiphanes, according to Daniel's vision, and what he wrote many years before they came to pass.  In the very same manner Daniel also wrote concerning the Roman government, and that our country should be made desolate by them.” ↩

    2. 15b.

      Section 10.11.7:  “he was so happy as to have strange revelations made to him, and those as to one of the greatest of the prophets … for he did not only prophesy of future events, as did the other prophets, but he also determined the time of their accomplishment.” ↩ ↩

  16. 16.

    The Prayer of Nabonidus (4Q242).  n.d.  “Words of the prayer, said by Nabonidus, king of Babylonia, the great king, when afflicted with an ulcer on command of the most high God in Tayma:  'I, Nabonidus, was afflicted with an evil ulcer for seven years, and far from men I was driven, until I prayed to the most high God.'  And an exorcist pardoned my sins.  He was a Jew from among the children of the exile of Judah.”  Square brackets marking reconstructed text are omitted here; the surviving fragments are damaged and much of the wording is restored.  A Dead Sea Scroll text of a prayer said by Nabonidus, preserved in damaged fragments.  The copy dates to the second half of the first century BC.  The article uses it because this Qumran text tells of a king's illness and exile, though of Nabonidus rather than Nebuchadnezzar. ↩

  17. 17.

    Driver, S. R.  “An Introduction to the Literature of the Old Testament.”  International Theological Library.  Edinburgh: T. & T. Clark.  1910.  Page 508:  The dictum, with the italics Driver used:  “The verdict of the language of Daniel is thus clear.  The Persian words presuppose a period after the Persian empire had been well established: the Greek words demand, the Hebrew supports, and the Aramaic permits, a date after the conquest of Palestine by Alexander the Great (b.c. 332).”  A textbook introduction to the books of the Old Testament by S. R. Driver, Regius Professor of Hebrew at Oxford, written for students of theology.  Its discussion of Daniel's language and theology is on pp. 508–509.  The article quotes it for the argument from the book's language and theology, and for Driver's own warning that the argument is sometimes overstated. ↩

    1. 17a.

      Page 508:  Quoting Franz Delitzsch on Daniel's Hebrew:  “in general character it resembles the Hebrew of the Chronicler, who wrote shortly before the beginning of the Greek period.” ↩

    2. 17b.

      Pages 508–509:  “The theology of the Book (in so far as it has a distinctive character) points to a later age than that of the exile.  It is true, this argument has sometimes been stated in an exaggerated form, as when, for instance, it is said that the doctrine of the resurrection, or the distinction of rank and office in the angels, is due to the influence of Parseeism … For exaggerations such as these there is no adequate foundation:  nevertheless it is undeniable that the doctrines of the Messiah, of angels, of the resurrection, and of a judgment on the world, are taught with greater distinctness, and in a more developed form, than elsewhere in the O.T.” ↩

  18. 18.

    Martin, W. J.  “The Hebrew of Daniel.”  Notes on Some Problems in the Book of Daniel, 28–30.  London: The Tyndale Press.  Edited by D. J. Wiseman.  1965.  Page 28:  On malkut he notes that it.  “is found already in Numbers 24:7, and in 1 Samuel 20:31, as well as three times in Jeremiah.”  A short reply in the same 1965 Tyndale Press volume by W. J. Martin to S. R. Driver's list of some thirty expressions, which are said to occur never or very rarely in the earlier literature.  Martin goes through the words one at a time, and his main example is malkut, which he finds in Numbers, Samuel and Jeremiah.  The article cites it for that answer and for the points it does not overturn. ↩

  19. 19.

    “Bava Batra 14b.”  Babylonian Talmud.  n.d.  Page 14b:  “The order of the books of the Prophets when they are attached together is as follows: Joshua and Judges, Samuel and Kings, Jeremiah and Ezekiel, and Isaiah and the Twelve Prophets. … The order of the Writings is: Ruth and the book of Psalms, and Job and Proverbs; Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, and Lamentations; Daniel and the Scroll of Esther; and Ezra and Chronicles.”  Koren-Steinsaltz translation.  A passage of the Babylonian Talmud that lists the books of the Hebrew Bible in their traditional order.  The article uses it because the list puts Daniel among the Writings, not the Prophets. ↩

  20. 20.

    Melito of Sardis.  “Canon list.”  Ecclesiastical History.  c. 170.  Book 4, chapter 26, section 13–14:  “when I went East and came to the place where these things were preached and done, I learned accurately the books of the Old Testament, and send them to you as written below.  Their names are as follows: … of Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah; of the twelve prophets, one book; Daniel, Ezekiel, Esdras.”  Translated by Arthur Cushman McGiffert.  A list of the Old Testament books that Melito, bishop of Sardis, drew up after he went east; Eusebius preserved it in his Ecclesiastical History.  The article uses it because Daniel sits inside the prophetic block of this list, between the Twelve and Ezekiel. ↩

  21. 21.

    Origen.  “Canon list.”  Ecclesiastical History.  n.d.  Book 6, chapter 25, section 1–2:  “It should be stated that the canonical books, as the Hebrews have handed them down, are twenty-two … Isaiah, Jessia; Jeremiah, with Lamentations and the epistle in one, Jeremia; Daniel, Daniel; Ezekiel, Jezekiel; Job, Job; Esther, Esther.”  Translated by McGiffert.  A list of the Old Testament books that Origen gave, as Eusebius preserved it in his Ecclesiastical History.  Origen died c. AD 253.  The article uses it as a second witness, about seventy years after Melito, to the same place for Daniel among the prophets. ↩

  22. 22.

    Baldwin, Joyce G.  “Some Literary Affinities of the Book of Daniel.”  Tyndale Bulletin 30:77–99.  1979.  The Tyndale Old Testament Lecture for 1978, printed in the Tyndale Bulletin.  It compares Daniel with ancient texts that present past events as if they were predictions, such as the Egyptian Demotic Chronicle and the Akkadian prophecy texts.  The article uses it for the critics' test of when such a book was written, the point where its history stops matching the events it predicts, which Baldwin states clearly and then rejects for Daniel.

    1. 22a.

      Page 88:  On the Shulgi Prophecy.  Baldwin states the critics' reading of Daniel 11, not her own:  “More significant than verbal similarities is the correspondence between the form of this work and the alleged vaticinium ex eventu in Daniel 11, according to which the general Babylonian setting gives the appearance of a work written in the sixth century B.C.  The author's true standpoint is to be discerned at the moment of transition, when history can no longer be demonstrated to correspond to the events prophesied.  By this criterion the book was written at the height of the career of Antiochus Epiphanes about 165 B.C.”  Of the Akkadian texts she adds that they.  “originated in Babylon hundreds of years before the Exile.” ↩ ↩

    2. 22b.

      Page 95:  “I find no evidence in Daniel to suggest that any vaticinium ex eventu was intended.”  Page 96:  “Again I make the point that the rationale of Daniel is quite different from that of the Akkadian prophecy texts, though I agree fully with Professor Grayson's statement that in form and style there is a striking resemblance.” ↩

  23. 23.

    Herodotus of Halicarnassus.  Histories.  c. 430 BC.  Book 1, chapter 188:  “the son of this woman, bearing the same name as his father, Labynetos”.  A Greek history written c. 430 BC.  Herodotus knew that Babylon fell to Cyrus, but he describes the king Cyrus marched against in other words, and he shows no knowledge of Belshazzar.  The article uses him as a fifth-century Greek witness to the word Chaldeans.

    1. 23a.

      Book 1, chapter 181:  On the topmost cell of the ziggurat of Bel at Babylon.  “there is no image there set up nor does any human being spend the night there except only one woman of the natives of the place, whomsoever the god shall choose from all the women, as say the Chaldeans who are the priests of this god”.  Translated by G. C. Macaulay. ↩

  24. 24.

    Diodorus Siculus.  Library of History.  n.d.  A history by a Greek writer, compiled c. 60–30 BC.  The article uses it as a Greek historian who describes the Chaldeans as a priestly class, as Herodotus does.

    1. 24a.

      Book 2, chapter 29, section 2–4:  “Now the Chaldaeans, belonging as they do to the most ancient inhabitants of Babylonia, have about the same position among the divisions of the state as that occupied by the priests of Egypt; for being assigned to the service of the gods they spend their entire life in study, their greatest renown being in the field of astrology. … For among the Chaldaeans the scientific study of these subjects is passed down in the family, and son takes it over from father, being relieved of all other services in the state.”  Translated by C. H. Oldfather for the Loeb Classical Library, at https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Diodorus_Siculus/2A*.html.  Diodorus wrote in the first century BC but is describing the caste as it existed under the Assyrian and Babylonian empires. ↩

  25. 25.

    Allegro, John M.  “Qumrân Cave 4.I (4Q158–4Q186).”  Discoveries in the Judaean Desert V, 53–57.  Oxford: Clarendon.  1968.  Section frgs. 1–3 ii 3–4:  Quotes Daniel 12:10 with the introductory formula:  “[whi]ch is written in the book of Daniel the prophet.”  Bryant Wood independently reports, in the Associates for Biblical Research article, that 4Q174 quotes Daniel 12:10.  The editio princeps (first published edition) of the Qumran text 4Q174, called the Florilegium.  The first word of the quotation below is partly reconstructed, as the square brackets in the standard transcription show.  The article uses it to show that the Qumran community read Daniel as a prophetic book. ↩

  26. 26.

    Ulrich, Eugene.  “Daniel Manuscripts from Qumran. Part 2: Preliminary Editions of 4QDanb and 4QDanc.”  Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research 274:3–26.  1989.  The edition of two Daniel scrolls from Qumran, 4QDanb and 4QDanc.  It records the verses of 4Q114 (4QDanielc): Daniel 10:5–9, 10:11–16, 10:21, 11:1–2, 11:13–17 and 11:25–29.  The article uses it because 4Q114 preserves the disputed material, Antiochus IV's first Egyptian campaign, and not only the safe part of the book. ↩

  27. 27.

    4 Ezra.  c. 100.  Verse 12:11–12:  Quoted by Young, Wearne and Caddy in "Redating the Dead Sea Scrolls".  “The eagle that you saw coming up from the sea is the fourth kingdom that appeared in a vision to your brother Daniel.  But it was not explained to him as I now explain to you.”  A Jewish apocalypse, a book of visions written about AD 100, after the destruction of the temple.  The article cites it for a Jewish writer of that time who presents the explanation of Daniel's fourth kingdom as new, the kind of later re-reading the article argues for. ↩

  28. 28.

    Winger, Mike.  “Defending Daniel — Evidence for the Bible pt4.”  YouTube.  May 17, 2016.  A 51-minute video lecture in a series on evidence for the Bible, which sets out to answer the critics' main attacks on Daniel.  It was uploaded to YouTube on 17 May 2016.  The article uses it as the best-known free treatment of the question, one that has served as many people's introduction to it, and then shows that it never addresses the failure at Daniel 11:40–45.

    1. 28a.

      About 29 minutes in, Winger says:  “all 15 of these words are what's called Old Persian … If Daniel was written in 165 BC, he would have probably used middle Persian, cuz that's the kind of Persian that was being used then.”  The count of Persian loanwords is usually given as about twenty, not fifteen.  At about 43–44 minutes, on the canon lists, Winger says:  “Putting Daniel in the writings is actually a 4th century AD tradition … Origen in 254 AD, he believed that Daniel was part of the prophets in his list of biblical books … Melito of Sardis … considered Daniel part of the prophets.”  Melito wrote about AD 170, not AD 70 as the talk states. ↩

    2. 28b.

      At about 7 minutes, listing the seven arguments to be answered: prophecy is impossible; bad history; linguistic arguments; multiple authors; theology too advanced; placement in the Writings; and.  “straws”.  Daniel 11 appears nowhere in the list or in the talk. ↩

    3. 28c.

      At about 6 minutes Winger says:  “if you could summarize his reason for why he thought Daniel was written after the fact, it was simply he thought prophecy was too good to be true.  So Daniel had to have written it after the fact.  He didn't really have a more sophisticated argument than that.”  Compare Jerome's summary of Porphyry, quoted above. ↩

    4. 28d.

      At about 30 minutes Winger says:  “There are four Greek words … and all of them are the names of musical instruments.”  Driver, Kitchen, and Mitchell and Joyce all count three.  At about 13 minutes the Verse Account passage is introduced as.  “another quote from one of the same cylinders”.  but the Verse Account is a separate tablet published by Sidney Smith in 1924, not one of the Ur foundation cylinders recovered in the 1850s. ↩