Other Proposed Landing Sites

No landing site proposed besides Ararat, Durupınar and Cudi holds up. Creationist geologists read Cornuke's Iranian 'beams' as rock, and his own dated wood is late medieval. The other candidates rest on readings, not finds. Boat-shaped flow forms recur around Ararat, so Durupınar's shape is not evidence. Of eleven candidates, none tested has survived.

By AI (Claude Opus 5.5, thinking level unavailable) Draft:  October 2026

Summary

Three sites get their own articles:  Mount Ararat, the Durupınar formation and Mount Cudi.  This article covers the rest, and the boat-shaped landforms that make Durupınar look less special than it first appears.  The text itself, Genesis 8:4's "mountains of Ararat," belongs to the parent article, Searching for Noah's Ark.

The verdict:  no other proposed landing site holds up.  The only one with a physical case is Iranian, and it fails on its own laboratory result.  The others are readings without objects.  And the boat shape that made Durupınar famous turns out to be common in the terrain around it.

  1. Cornuke's Takht-e Suleiman (Part 1). In 2005 and 2006 Bob Cornuke's BASE Institute photographed a dark outcrop with "an uncanny beam-like appearance" on a ridge near 4,000 m in Iran's Alborz range, and called it a "candidate."1 His reason for looking in Iran, Genesis 11:2's "from the east," does not hold: the same Hebrew word and the same Greek phrase describe Lot's journey eastward in Genesis 13:11. Creationist geologists who studied the photographs saw "thinly bedded silicified sandstone"2 or sheared rock. A sample from the object held a marine microfossil. The wood his team brought down was dated by Beta Analytic to AD 1440-1650, and Cornuke himself wrote that it "would not be fragments directly from Noah’s ark."3 The petrified-wood result came from an unnamed laboratory and was never released.
  2. The other candidates (Part 2). Kuh-e Alvand near Hamadan, the Dasht-e Kavir desert, the Saudi al-Jūdī, a Mount Judi near Haran, Apamea Kibotos in Phrygia, and Mount Nimush of the Babylonian flood story all rest on a reading of a verse, a word or a town's name. None offers an object or a sample. Apamea shows how such sites arise: a local flood legend and a town nicknamed "the Ark" became a landing place.
  3. The lookalikes (Part 3). At least eleven boat-shaped forms are on record near Ararat: three in a Turkish Air Force photograph of Lesser Ararat's footslopes,4 at least three beside Durupınar in Don Patton's photograph,5 and a cluster of five on Greater Ararat's south-west slope, about 21 km north of Durupınar, the largest about 650 m long. Two young-earth writers say outright that the length, not the shape, singled Durupınar out.6 An Ark-length form is to be expected in a district with a few dozen such forms, so the outline is not evidence of a hull.
  4. The comparison (Part 4). Eleven candidates have a named proposer or a written tradition. Three have had their physical evidence tested, and none survived; one, Cudi, is unsettled; one, Cornuke's earlier Mount Sabalan, was abandoned; six have never offered anything to test.
  5. The pattern (Part 5). Since at most one candidate can be right, at least 91 % are wrong by arithmetic alone. Every laboratory date published in full on wood from Ağrı Dağı and Takht-e Suleiman falls within the last 1,700 radiocarbon years, against the 4,800 a young-earth geologist says Ark wood must show. Every result said to favour an Ark has lacked a named laboratory or a full report. The next announced site should be judged by what it releases: a thin section, a species, a dated sample from a named laboratory.

Part 1: Bob Cornuke's Mount Suleiman in Iran

The claim, in Cornuke's words

Bob Cornuke is president of the Bible Archaeology Search and Exploration (BASE) Institute, a Christian group that looks for places and objects named in the Bible.7  He searched on Ağrı Dağı in the late 1980s2 and later concluded that the Ark was not in Turkey at all.  His first Iranian candidate was Mount Sabalan in the north-west, which his 2001 book calls "the object of a rich local tradition as the true resting place of Noah and the ark."8  Gordon Franz of Associates for Biblical Research summed up what followed:  "Apparently he did not find Noah's Ark on this mountain so he sought the ark on Mt. Suleiman" in the Elburz range.9  In July 2005 and June 2006 he led teams to Takht-e Suleiman ("Solomon's Throne"), a peak in the Alborz (Elburz) range north of Tehran.  The BASE Institute's own account, written in the first person, reads:  "In July 2005 and June 2006, I traveled with BASE teams and found the object believed to be the Ed Davis object perched on a ridge at 13,120 feet."1  That is about 4,000 m.  Ed Davis was an American soldier who said that in 1943, while stationed at Hamadan in western Iran, local men took him to see the Ark.10

The 2006 team of fourteen included Arch Bonnema, president of Joshua Financial, the apologist Josh McDowell and the former Avis chief executive Barry Rand.  They returned with photographs of a black outcrop about 400 ft (122 m) long.7  Bonnema told reporters, "These beams not only look like petrified wood, they are so impressive that they look like real wood—this is an amazing discovery that may be the oldest shipwreck in recorded history."7  A web report by Brannon Howse said that "some of the wood-like rocks were tested just this week and actually proved to be petrified wood."7

The BASE Institute's own summary is more careful.  Its list of findings says:  "The object consists of dark rock with an uncanny beam-like appearance in several places";  "The object fits the approximate dimensions of Noah's Ark";  "Some samples tested by an independent lab showed signs of petrified wood. (Not the entire object.)";  and "We found microscopic sea life in a rock sample from the object (a foram, which is normally only found at the depths of the sea)."  It closes:  "The BASE Institute does not make the claim that we have found Noah's Ark. We'll let you draw your own conclusions. In our opinion, it's a candidate."1  The page also states the premise behind the search:  "if anything from Noah's Ark has survived, it might now be in the form of petrified wood."1

So the claim has four parts:  Genesis points east of Mesopotamia;  Ed Davis saw the Ark in Iran;  the object looks like beams;  and a laboratory found signs of petrified wood.  Each is taken in turn below.

Why Iran: "from the east"

Cornuke's case starts from Genesis 11:2 in the King James Version, "And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar."11  He reasons:  "If the survivors of the flood journeyed from the east, they would have come from the land in the direction of present day Iran."  A journey from Ağrı Dağı down the Euphrates, he adds, "would be a contradiction of Genesis 11:2."1  He quotes Roy Knuteson that the Septuagint, the Greek translation made in the third century BC, uses a preposition "that only means 'from,' not 'in,' or 'towards,' or 'eastward.'"1

The Hebrew word is miqqedem.  The standard Hebrew lexicon of Brown, Driver and Briggs gives its sense with a verb of motion as "eastward," and lists two places:  Genesis 11:2 and Genesis 13:11.12  Genesis 13:11 settles what the word can mean, because its direction is known.  Lot was at Bethel, chose "all the plain of Jordan," which lies east of Bethel, and moved there.  The King James Version itself translates the same word "and Lot journeyed east."11  The Septuagint uses exactly the phrase Knuteson relies on for Lot:  apērēn Lōt apo anatolōn, the same apo anatolōn it uses in Genesis 11:2.13  The Greek translators wrote "from the east" for a journey that went east.  So neither the Hebrew nor the Greek fixes which way the builders of Babel were moving, and modern translations divide:  "from the east" and "eastward" are both defensible.

Cornuke concedes part of this on the same page:  "It is very possible that the term 'from the east' (Genesis 11:2) does not indicate a compass direction. It is probable that the author intended to refer to a geographical region."1  Rick Lanser of Associates for Biblical Research answered that even the strict reading does not rule out Turkey:  Noah's family could have moved east along the Araxes valley first and come back into Mesopotamia "from the east."14  His colleague Gordon Franz made the simpler point:  "does the text state that the Ark landed east of Shinar? The Biblical passage does not state that Ararat is east of the Land of Shinar."9  And the geography cuts both ways.  Takht-e Suleiman lies about 740 km from Babylon on a bearing of about 53°, north-east, not east;  Ağrı Dağı lies about 800 km due north.15  Anne Habermehl, a young-earth writer, put it plainly:  Cornuke "gets around that by arguing that “east” refers to the whole country that lies to the east of Babylon," and his peak lies outside ancient Urartu, "being much too far east."6  The textual question of where "the mountains of Ararat" were is the parent article's;  here it is enough that Genesis 11:2 cannot carry the weight Cornuke puts on it.

Cornuke's object is the one "believed to be the Ed Davis object."1  Bill Crouse and Steven Anderson, two creationist Ark researchers who examined the eyewitness stories, judge Davis unreliable.  Davis "has changed his story several times in the telling," turning his guides from Lurs into Kurds once researchers told him that Lurs do not live near Ağrı Dağı.10  They suggest that locals near Hamadan showed Davis a block of rock on Kuh-e Alvand, "and to many in that area of the world this mountain is the one on which the Ark landed."10  Crouse also reports that Davis claimed the locals found edible honey and beans inside the Ark.  A story that has changed in its key details cannot locate a mountain, whether in Turkey or in Iran.

What the object is

The creationist geologists who looked at the photographs did not see wood.  John Morris, a geologist and then president of the Institute for Creation Research, was a friend of Cornuke's, and Cornuke sent him the 2005 photographs.  Morris wrote:  "Unfortunately, he had no samples to show us, and thus it was not possible to be certain of its identity."  But "In our unanimous opinion, the formation was of geologic interest only. ... Most likely the rock material is thinly bedded silicified sandstone which has been mistaken for wood grain. Regional fracturing has produced the superficial look of thick beams."2  Tas Walker, a geologist at Creation Ministries International, read the same photographs as rock that had been "sheared by tectonic movement, causing folding and metamorphism," whose "beams with their hewn surfaces at right angles look like rock that has fractured along cleavage planes."7  Even the expedition's own geologist, Reg Lyle, is reported to have said:  "The object appears to be a basalt dike, however, it is absolutely uncanny that the object looks like hand hewn timbers."7

Three facts from the BASE page itself point the same way.

  1. The foraminifer. A foram is the shell of a single-celled marine organism. BASE found one "in a rock sample from the object."1 A marine microfossil inside the object is what marine sedimentary rock contains. Morris made the young-earth point: "While the fossil (as well as the rock) is probably from the Flood, certainly it was not on the Ark." The Ark landed after the Flood's sediments were laid down and was never under water again.2
  2. Petrification. The search assumes Ark timber would now be petrified wood. Morris noted that "petrified wood is found in thousands of places around the world. Finding it here means nothing," and that wood petrifies best "when buried in volcanic ash."2 Walker added that timber sitting on a mountainside would be soaked by rain and snow, which carry too little dissolved mineral to petrify it.7 Lanser added that the pitch of Genesis 6:14, by keeping water out, would tend to prevent petrification.14
  3. The only date. The 2005 team brought down real wood from high on the mountain, and Cornuke had it radiocarbon dated. He reports the result himself in his 2005 book Ark Fever: "I had these wood samples tested by Beta Analytic, of Miami, Florida ... Beta determined the age of the wood to be between 355 and 565 years old," that is, AD 1440 to 1650. He draws the fair conclusion: "Obviously, wood that is only several hundred years old (rather than several thousand years or more) would not be fragments directly from Noah’s ark." He suggests instead that local people built a shrine near the object a few centuries ago.3 The BASE page lists the same wood as "Wood at the Summit, which may be from the shrine," dated "to be around 500 years old."1 It is the only laboratory result on the claim that names its laboratory, and it dates the wood to the fifteenth to seventeenth centuries AD.

The laboratory

The case for the object itself rests on one sentence:  "Some samples tested by an independent lab showed signs of petrified wood."1  The page does not name the laboratory, the method, the samples or what "signs" means.  In August 2006 Cornuke told a Colorado Springs reporter that the June samples had been "delivered to scientists in New York for analysis."16  No report from that analysis has been found in print or online, and in July 2006 a skeptical blogger already noted that the team "have never revealed who did the testing, what tests were performed, or released the actual lab report."17  Morris named the test that would settle the question:  "Determining if the material is wood or not can best be accomplished by examining a thin section under a microscope. If specimens were taken, they need to be studied for remaining wood cells."2  Petrified wood keeps its cells when it is silicified, and a thin section shows them.  A test that could have settled the matter in an afternoon has not been published in twenty years.

Where the claim stands

Cornuke deserves credit for one thing:  he has said, more carefully than his teammates, that he does not claim to have found the Ark.  Morris noted it too:  "Cornuke is careful to insist he does not claim the Ark has been found, but the viewer or listener often comes away with that impression anyway."2  But a candidate is only as good as its evidence.  Here the text does not point to Iran, the eyewitness is unreliable, the geologists on Cornuke's own side see sandstone or sheared rock, the object holds a marine fossil, the one named laboratory dated the wood to AD 1440-1650, and the petrified-wood result was never released.  Even the object's height differs between Cornuke's own accounts:  Ark Fever puts it at 12,500 ft,3 the BASE page at 13,120 ft.1  The Institute for Creation Research, Creation Ministries International and Associates for Biblical Research all declined to support the claim in 2006.  Searches found no published assessment by Answers in Genesis or by Randall Price.

Part 2: The other candidates

Beyond Cornuke's peak, the published proposals fall into two kinds.  Some are old traditions that name a place but offer no object.  Others are modern readings that put the Ark where no one has looked.  None of them offers a physical object that anyone has tested.

Kuh-e Alvand, near Hamadan, Iran

Alvand is a high mountain beside Hamadan in western Iran.  Crouse and Anderson report a local belief that "to many in that area of the world this mountain is the one on which the Ark landed," and they suspect it is where Ed Davis was taken in 1943.10  B. J. Corbin, who joined four expeditions to Ağrı Dağı (1988, 1989, 1990 and 1998), later turned to ancient texts and now names "Alvand Mountain as the most likely landing site of Noah's (Ziusudra's/Atrahasis'/Utnapishtim's) Ark."18  His case rests on Genesis 11:2 and on identifying the Sumerian land of Aratta with Ararat.  He reports no survey, find or sample.

The Dasht-e Kavir desert, Iran

Habermehl summarises a proposal by A. Groebli in a 1999 collection of Ark explorers' essays:  "Groebli believes that the Ark landed in the central plateau of Iran in the Dasht-e-Kavir desert and is hidden under sand dunes there; he bases this belief on his chosen criteria that the Ark should be located east of Babylon and on a pre-Flood mountain."6  The essay itself could not be obtained.  It applies Cornuke's reading of Genesis 11:2 and offers nothing that could be examined.

Arabia

Habermehl notes "Al-Judi mountains in central Saudi Arabia, and some Muslims believe the Ark landed there."6  The Qur'an, 11:44, says the Ark came to rest on al-Jūdī, and the name has been attached to more than one range.  The only published modern case for Arabia is a personal web page of about 1999, signed only "Brian," which argues that "the Al-Judi of Sura 11:44 is definitely NOT a mountain" and that "Noah's ark has been a great canopy atop the preserved remains of the preflood city of Cain called Al-Judi and Chanoch," buried under sand about 62 statute miles north of Tayma'.19  Habermehl called it "a truly bizarre interpretation of the Bible and Quran."6  She adds that she "could not find information about any Ark search expeditions" for the Saudi Al-Judi or for a Mount Judi near Haran.6

No published case was found for a landing in Pakistan's Salt Range, where a range is also called Judi.  It is mentioned online without a source and is left out here.

Apamea Kibotos, Phrygia

The one ancient rival to the eastern mountains is in western Turkey.  The city of Apamea in Phrygia, near modern Dinar, carried the by-name Kibotos, "the chest" or "the ark."  A Jewish or Christian poem in the first book of the Sibylline Oracles places the landing there:  "There is in Phrygia on the dark mainland / A steep, tall mountain; Ararat its name ... Thence streams of the great river Marsyas spring. / There on a lofty peak the ark abode."20  From about AD 193 to 253 the city struck bronze coins showing Noah and his wife in a floating chest with doves on the lid, and the name Noah in Greek.2122

William Ramsay, who mapped the cities of Phrygia, explained how the tradition arose.  The by-name Kibotos "occurs first in Strabo about A.D. 19," and "there is no evidence whether the by-name ... was derived from the tale, or the tale was localized here because of the name."  He concluded that "the hill of Kelainai was considered by the Apamean Jews to be the spot where the ark had rested, because an Apamean legend of a deluge was already connected with the hill."23  Apamea is a clean example of how landing sites are made:  a local flood legend, a Jewish community, and a town name that meant "ark."  Nobody has claimed a physical object there.

Mount Nimush, in the Babylonian flood story

In the Babylonian epic of Gilgamesh, the flood hero's boat grounds on Mount Nimush, once read Nisir.  Andrew George, the epic's modern editor, writes that "the ark ran aground on one, Mt Nimuš," and that Assyrian inscriptions make "the most obvious identification of the peak as that now known as Pir Omar Gudrun," near Sulaymaniyah in Iraqi Kurdistan.  He adds that "The mountain of the ark crops up differently named in different traditions."24  This is the landing place of a different hero in a different story, but it shows that the oldest flood tradition outside Genesis put the landing in the Zagros mountains north-east of Mesopotamia, and that the name of the mountain changed from one telling to the next.

What these have in common

Every candidate in this Part rests on a reading:  of Genesis 11:2, of the Qur'an's al-Jūdī, of a Sibylline verse, or of a local name.  None comes with an object, a sample or a survey.  They cannot fail a test because none has been put to one, and most are placed, by their own proposers, where no test can be made:  under desert sand, or on an unvisited peak.

Part 3: The boat-shaped forms around Ararat

The argument from shape

Durupınar became a candidate because of its outline.  When the 1960 expedition reached it, "One scientist in the group ventured that nothing in nature could produce such symmetry, although nothing man-made was discovered."25  Every later promoter has leaned on the same point:  a pointed end, a rounded end, raised sides, and a length near 300 cubits.

The shape is evidence for a hull only if nature rarely makes it.  So the fair test is to look at the terrain around it.  If the same district makes boat shapes without boats, the outline tells us how material flows around an obstacle, and nothing about what the obstacle is.

The best defence of the shape's uniqueness comes from Salih Bayraktutan, the Turkish geologist who co-led the 1987-1988 surveys.  Lorence Collins and David Fasold reported his view in 1996:  "Other streamlined rock-shapes have been found in the area (Guner, 1986), but according to Bayraktutan, these shapes do not display the same morphological and internal features."25  That is a fair point as far as it goes.  The report does not say which features differ, and the internal structure that the radar suggested at Durupınar was not confirmed when the site was cored in 1988 (see The Durupınar Formation).

The lookalikes on record

Three sets of similar forms are documented, by three different people, without anyone having surveyed the district for them.

  1. The Turkish Air Force photograph. Andrew Snelling, a young-earth geologist, wrote in 1992 that "this particular boat-shape is far from unique. The Turkish Air Force released another photograph several years ago showing three similar boat-shapes in the mudflow material on the footslopes of nearby Lesser Mount Ararat."4 The reprint of his article at Creation Ministries International shows the photograph, an oblique view below the cone of Lesser Ararat with arrows on three forms. It is undated, and the forms are neither located nor measured.
  2. Don Patton's photograph. In October 2026 the Institute for Creation Research published a photograph from Don Patton, a creationist who has visited Durupınar many times, showing "at least three nearby outcrops of similar shape and material." Patton's comment was that "Noah was not an admiral of a fleet."5
  3. A cluster of five on Greater Ararat. Satellite imagery shows five streamlined, boat-like forms close together on the lower south-west slope of Greater Ararat (Ağrı Dağı), about 21 km north of Durupınar and 9 km from the summit. The largest sits near 39.625° N, 44.279° E, at about 2,470 m. Its smooth inner "deck" is about 650 m long and 300 m wide, and its concentric outer ridges make the whole form about 1 km long. The other four are a third to a quarter of its size. The slope around them is covered with lobed and streamlined flow forms.26

Two cautions keep this from being overstated.  The five on Greater Ararat lie on the flank of a volcano, not in the Telçeker earthflow where Durupınar sits, and no source read for this article maps whether they are lava lobes or debris lobes.  They show that flows here make boat outlines readily.  They do not show that those outlines are made of the same rock and mud as Durupınar.  And none of the eleven forms has been measured in the field.

What singled Durupınar out

Two young-earth writers say plainly why this one form, out of several, drew the attention.  Snelling:  "if it wasn’t for the fact that this particular boat-shape is the approximate length of the biblical Noah’s Ark* then little attention would have been paid to it."4  Anne Habermehl, in a review for the 2008 International Conference on Creationism, wrote that the main objection to the Durupınar ark "is that it appears to be a naturally occurring geological formation, and is only one of several in the area; the reason that this particular one attracted attention as a possible Ark is that it is about the right length (155 m, using an ancient longer cubit)."6

So the shape did not pick out Durupınar.  The length did.  And the length window is wide.  Three hundred cubits is 133 m at the common cubit of 44.45 cm and 164 m at the longest cubit fitted to Durupınar, 54.7 cm.  That window spans 23 %.27

Pricing the coincidence

How surprising is it that one boat-shaped form in a district of many happens to fall in a 23 % length window?  No source has counted or measured the streamlined forms around Ararat, so the answer can only be illustrated.  Suppose, for scale only, that the lengths of such forms are spread evenly on a logarithmic scale between 50 m and 1 km.  The documented forms run from Durupınar's 150-164 m to about 1 km, so the range is not invented, but the distribution is an assumption.  Then any one form has about a 7 % chance of landing in the Ark window.27

streamlined forms in the district expected number of Ark length chance at least one is Ark length
12 (the documented ones, counting Durupınar) 0.8 58 %
25 1.7 83 %
50 3.5 97 %
100 6.9 over 99 %

On any reasonable count, a district like this one produces an Ark-length boat shape without help.  The coincidence that made Durupınar famous is the expected result of looking at enough mudflows with a ruler in hand.  The width does not rescue it:  Durupınar is 3 to 4 times as long as it is wide, against the Ark's 6, and its sibling article shows that even a splayed hull settles nothing, because the outline cannot decide the question.

What the number does

The lookalikes do not prove that Durupınar is not the Ark.  The 1988 cores and the thin sections do that, and they are argued in The Durupınar Formation.  What the lookalikes do is narrower and firmer:  they remove the shape from the evidence.  An outline that the district makes again and again cannot count in favour of one example of it.  If the 2026 cores turn up identified, dated wood, that wood will carry the case by itself, and the shape will add nothing to it.

Part 4: Every candidate compared

The table lists every landing site with a named proposer or a written tradition behind it.  The boat-shaped forms of Part 3 are left out, because no one has proposed them as the Ark;  they are the control group, not candidates.

candidate where first proposed by whom physical evidence offered tested? result
Ağrı Dağı (Mount Ararat) eastern Turkey; a volcano over 5,000 m high 11th-12th century AD Armenian and European tradition; searchers from the 1800s on eyewitness stories, Navarra's wood (1955, 1969), the "Ararat Anomaly," the 2010 Hong Kong samples yes: wood radiocarbon dated by several laboratories no Ark: Navarra's wood dates to about AD 760; the Hong Kong samples dated within the last 610 radiocarbon years except one unreplicated result; the Anomaly is unvisited282930
Durupınar formation 29.5 km south of Ağrı Dağı's summit; 1,955 m 1959-1960 İlhan Durupınar's survey photograph; Ron Wyatt from 1977 the boat shape, radar lines, "wood," "rivets," anchor stones yes: 1987 survey, 1988 cores, thin sections no Ark: mud and rock, no wood; 2026 cores pending
Cudi Dağı south-east Turkey, near Cizre antiquity Syriac Christian and Islamic tradition written tradition, summit ruins, one wood sample reported in the 1950s one sample reported dated; details in the sibling article unsettled
Mount Sabalan north-west Iran; "16,000-foot" by Cornuke's figure 1998-2001 Bob Cornuke local tradition searched; nothing reported abandoned by its proposer
Takht-e Suleiman Alborz range, Iran; ridge at 3,800-4,000 m 2005 Bob Cornuke, BASE Institute dark "beam-like" outcrop about 122 m long; wood from a nearby summit photographs examined by ICR and CMI geologists; wood radiocarbon dated; rock samples to an unnamed laboratory no Ark: sandstone or sheared rock holding a marine microfossil; wood AD 1440-1650; petrified-wood report never released
Kuh-e Alvand beside Hamadan, Iran local tradition, undated local belief; B. J. Corbin none no none to judge
Dasht-e Kavir central Iranian desert 1999 A. Groebli none: under sand dunes no none to judge
Al-Judi, Arabia central Saudi Arabia; north of Tayma' Muslim tradition; a web page of about 1999 "Brian" none: under sand no none to judge
Mount Judi near Haran south-east Turkey not stated listed by Habermehl 2008 none no none to judge
Apamea Kibotos Phrygia, near Dinar, western Turkey Roman period: Sibylline Oracles; coins of AD 193-253 the town and its Jewish community coins and a town name no none to judge
Mount Nimush (Pir Omar Gudrun) Iraqi Kurdistan Babylonian Gilgamesh epic Babylonian scribes none; a different flood hero no none to judge

Eleven candidates.  Three have had their physical evidence tested, and all three failed.  One, Cudi, has a single reported sample whose details belong to its own article.  One, Sabalan, was given up by the man who proposed it.  Six have never offered anything that could be tested.

Part 5: What the pattern shows

At most one can be right

The candidates exclude one another.  If the Ark survives at all, it rests in one place.  So of the eleven sites in the table, at least ten are wrong whatever any test shows:  91 % of all proposals are wrong by arithmetic alone.  A new, twelfth claim enters that field with a ceiling of 1 in 12, about 8 %, before its evidence is weighed, and that is on the generous assumption that the Ark survives somewhere.31  The young-earth geologists who have weighed the question do not assume it will.  Snelling wrote that "the Bible in no way says that Noah’s Ark would be preserved as a witness to future generations."4

The tested record

Three sites have had physical evidence tested, and none has survived.  Laplace's rule of succession turns "0 of 3" into an estimate that the next tested site passes about 1 time in 5.  Three cases is a small record, and the honest reading is that it cannot by itself rule a new claim out:  the 95 % upper limit on the pass rate is still 63 %.31  The record matters more for the way the claims failed than for how many failed.

How the claims failed

The failures follow two patterns, and both are visible across sites.

  1. Every laboratory result published in full puts the wood within the last 1,700 radiocarbon years. Navarra's oak from Ağrı Dağı: 1,190 ± 90 radiocarbon years, about AD 760, with the laboratory's own comment, "evidently not the Ark,"28 and five more results from four laboratories between 1,210 and 1,690 years.32 Cornuke's wood from Takht-e Suleiman: AD 1440-1650, from Beta Analytic.3 Three of the four Hong Kong samples from Ağrı Dağı: modern to 610 radiocarbon years.29 Snelling, who holds a young-earth chronology, sets the bar a real Ark sample must clear: "a wood sample from the Ark must carbon-14 date older than 4,800 years."30 The oldest of these published results, 1,690 years on half of one sample, reaches about a third of that.33
  2. Every laboratory result said to support an Ark at these three sites lacks a named laboratory or a full report. Wyatt's "wood" at Durupınar came with an assay of three elements, and the laboratory "was adamant that they were not asked to give an opinion on what the object was."4 Cornuke's "signs of petrified wood" came from an unnamed laboratory. The one old Hong Kong result, sample D, came from a laboratory that, Snelling reports, "did not follow standard procedures and did not measure the δ13C value or report a ± error margin."30

So the record divides cleanly.  Where a sample went to a named laboratory and the full result was printed, the wood was centuries old, not millennia.  Where the result was said to favour the Ark, the full report was missing or the laboratory unnamed.  That is the pattern the parent article, Searching for Noah's Ark, describes for the whole search.

What it means for the next claim

A new announcement should be judged by what it releases, not by how it looks.  The tests that would settle any of these claims are cheap and standard:  a thin section to show wood cells, a species identification, and a radiocarbon date from a named laboratory with its sample number, all on material collected by someone who did not fund the expedition.  On the record so far, a claim that offers those has never pointed to the Ark, and a claim that does not offer them has never been checkable.  Until a candidate breaks that pattern, the base rate is the best guide:  the next proposed landing site is almost certainly wrong, and its promoters' description of it is not evidence that it is right.

Objections and responses

  1. "Bayraktutan said the other streamlined forms differ from Durupınar in shape and internal features." That is the best reply in the literature, and it is reported second-hand, without saying which features differ.25 The argument from shape rests on the outline, which the lookalikes share. Internal features are a separate test, and at Durupınar that test was run: the 1988 cores found mud and rock (see The Durupınar Formation).
  2. "The five forms on Greater Ararat are lava lobes, not mudflows, so they prove nothing about Durupınar." They may well be a different material, and Part 3 says so. They show only that flows on this mountain make boat outlines often. The Turkish Air Force forms on Lesser Ararat and Patton's forms beside Durupınar are reported in mudflow material in the same district, and they make the point without the five.45
  3. "Cornuke never claimed he found the Ark." True, and this article credits him for it. But his own flyer, as Gordon Franz quotes it, said he was "sharing photographic and laboratory data, and letting audiences draw their own tentative, informed conclusions."9 The photographs were shared. The petrified-wood data were not. A reader cannot draw an informed conclusion from a report that has not been released.
  4. "The King James Version and the Septuagint both say 'from the east,' so the Ark must lie east of Shinar." Both use the same words for Lot's journey from Bethel to the Jordan valley, which went east.1113 And even on the strict reading, the verse describes a later migration, not the landing. Franz: "The Biblical passage does not state that Ararat is east of the Land of Shinar."9
  5. "Radiocarbon cannot date pre-Flood wood, so the young dates mean nothing." Young-earth models predict the opposite error. They hold that the pre-Flood atmosphere had less carbon-14, so Ark wood should date too old, not too young: Habermehl writes that pre-Flood wood "should show abnormally ancient ages."6 Wood that dates to the fifteenth century cannot be explained by a low pre-Flood carbon-14 level. The contamination needed to make Ark wood look that young is priced in Mount Ararat and the Ararat Anomaly.
  6. "The Ark may still lie at one of the untested sites, under the Kavir dunes or on Alvand." It may. But a site with no object offered is not evidence of anything, and it is not a rival to sites that were tested. The base rate in Part 5 is a ceiling on every untested claim, not a finding about any one of them.
  7. From the skeptic: "Every candidate failing shows the Flood never happened." It shows that no candidate has produced the Ark. The young-earth writers cited here did not expect the Ark to survive: Snelling says the Bible does not promise it would be preserved,4 and Habermehl allows that "not much of the Ark exists today."6 Whether the Flood happened is argued elsewhere on this site, from the rocks and the text, not from a boat.
  8. "Apamea and Mount Nimush show the landing story drifted from mountain to mountain, so Genesis is one more local legend." They show that later communities attached the landing to mountains near them, which is how Apamea's Jews read their own town's name. Genesis itself names no single peak: "the mountains of Ararat" is a region, as the parent article explains. The drift is in the traditions, not in the text.

Issues and unanswered questions

  1. The lookalikes have not been studied in the field. The five forms on Greater Ararat were located and measured here from satellite imagery, to within about 10 %, and the four smaller ones were not measured one by one. Whether they are lava or debris lobes is not mapped in any source read. Yılmaz Güner's 1986 paper in Jeomorfoloji Dergisi, which Collins and Fasold cite for "other streamlined rock-shapes" in the area, could not be obtained, and it may describe them. The Turkish Air Force and Patton photographs are undated and give no positions.
  2. The length illustration in Part 3 rests on an assumed spread of lengths. No one has counted and measured the streamlined forms of the district. A survey that did so would replace the illustration with a number.
  3. The 2006 samples. Neither the "independent lab" of the BASE page nor the "scientists in New York" has been named, and no report has appeared. Beta Analytic's report on the 2005 wood is known only from Cornuke's own summary.
  4. Habermehl misreports Morris. Her review says geologists believe Cornuke's object "is nothing but a natural basaltic rock formation (Morris, 2006)."6 Morris's article says "thinly bedded silicified sandstone."2 The word "basalt" comes from the expedition's own geologist, Reg Lyle, as reported by Walker.7 The article cites each source for what it says.
  5. Groebli's essay was not seen. His case is known only from Habermehl's summary. The book that holds it, B. J. Corbin's The Explorers of Ararat, is dated 1998 on Corbin's site and 1999 by Habermehl.
  6. No assessment by Answers in Genesis or by Randall Price of the Iranian claim was found, though both have written on the Ark search. If one exists, it should be added.
  7. The Cudi row depends on its sibling. The single wood sample reported from Cudi Dağı is assessed in Mount Cudi and the Older Tradition; if that article finds it decisive one way or the other, the count in Part 5 changes by one.
  8. Three tested sites is a small record. The rule-of-succession figure in Part 5 is soft, and the article leans on the pattern of failure more than on the count.

Verdict

None of the other proposed landing sites holds up.  Cornuke's Takht-e Suleiman is the only one with a physical case, and that case is a rock outcrop that young-earth geologists read as sandstone or sheared rock, a marine microfossil inside it, wood that Cornuke's own laboratory dated to the fifteenth to seventeenth centuries, and a petrified-wood result that was never released.  The rest, from Alvand and the Kavir desert to Arabia and Apamea, rest on readings of a verse, a word or a town's name, and offer nothing to test.  The boat-shaped forms around Ararat show that Durupınar's outline is common in that terrain, so its shape is not evidence of a hull.  At Ağrı Dağı and Takht-e Suleiman, every wood date published in full is centuries old, not millennia, and at all three tested sites every result said to favour an Ark has lacked a named laboratory or a full report.  The one old date reported from Cudi Dağı is weighed in its own article.

Sources


  1. 1.

    Cornuke, Bob.  “The Ark of Noah in Iran?”  BASE Institute.  2007.  The BASE Institute's six-page case for an Iranian landing site, written in the first person by the leader of the 2005 and 2006 expeditions:  its reading of Genesis 8:4 and 11:2, its Assyrian and classical evidence for an Urartu reaching into Iran, and its list of what the teams found on Takht-e Suleiman.  It is the primary statement of the claim, and it calls the object a candidate rather than the Ark.

    1. 1a.

      Section page 6:  “In July 2005 and June 2006, I traveled with BASE teams and found the object believed to be the Ed Davis object perched on a ridge at 13,120 feet.” ↩ ↩ ↩

    2. 1b.

      Section page 6, list of findings and disclaimer:  “The object consists of dark rock with an uncanny beam-like appearance in several places.”  “The object fits the approximate dimensions of Noah's Ark”.  “Some samples tested by an independent lab showed signs of petrified wood. (Not the entire object.)”  “Wood at the Summit, which may be from the shrine, has been dated to be around 500 years old.”  “We found microscopic sea life in a rock sample from the object (a foram, which is normally only found at the depths of the sea).”  “The BASE Institute does not make the claim that we have found Noah's Ark. We'll let you draw your own conclusions. In our opinion, it's a candidate.” ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩

    3. 1c.

      Section page 6:  “Even though we don't know what gopher wood was, it's probably safe to assume that it would decay like any other wood. Therefore, if anything from Noah's Ark has survived, it might now be in the form of petrified wood.” ↩

    4. 1d.

      Section page 2:  “If the survivors of the flood journeyed from the east, they would have come from the land in the direction of present day Iran.”  “If the descendents of Noah traveled from the traditional Mount Ararat in Turkey, then they would have traveled an easy path down the Euphrates River, which eventually pours into the Mesopotamia Valley. This North to South direction would be a contradiction of Genesis 11:2.” ↩

    5. 1e.

      Section page 2:  “chose a preposition (apo) that only means 'from,' not 'in,' or 'towards,' or 'eastward.'”  Cornuke quoting Roy Knuteson;  no publication by Knuteson is cited. ↩

    6. 1f.

      Section page 2:  “It is very possible that the term "from the east" (Genesis 11:2) does not indicate a compass direction. It is probable that the author intended to refer to a geographical region”. ↩

  2. 2.

    Morris, John D.  “Has Noah's Ark Been Found in Iran?”  Institute for Creation Research.  Sep 1, 2006.  A short assessment by the geologist who then led the Institute for Creation Research and had searched Ağrı Dağı for decades.  He and the institute's other geologists examined Cornuke's 2005 photographs, and he states what tests would decide the question.

    1. 2a.

      “I had met Cornuke on Turkey's Mount Ararat when we both were there in the late 1980s.” ↩

    2. 2b.

      “Unfortunately, he had no samples to show us, and thus it was not possible to be certain of its identity.”  “In our unanimous opinion, the formation was of geologic interest only.”  “Most likely the rock material is thinly bedded silicified sandstone which has been mistaken for wood grain. Regional fracturing has produced the superficial look of thick beams.” ↩ ↩ ↩

    3. 2c.

      “I have noticed that Cornuke is careful to insist he does not claim the Ark has been found, but the viewer or listener often comes away with that impression anyway.” ↩

    4. 2d.

      “But petrified wood is found in thousands of places around the world. Finding it here means nothing.”  “Wood is best petrified when buried in volcanic ash, but they have asserted this is not a volcanic region.” ↩

    5. 2e.

      “One piece of "wood" is reported to have a marine fossil imbedded in it. While the fossil (as well as the rock) is probably from the Flood, certainly it was not on the Ark. The Ark would have landed on the mountain while the area was draining, after the fossiliferous sediments had been deposited, and it would have never been underwater since that time.” ↩

    6. 2f.

      “Determining if the material is wood or not can best be accomplished by examining a thin section under a microscope. If specimens were taken, they need to be studied for remaining wood cells.” ↩

  3. 3.

    Cornuke, Robert.  Ark Fever.  Tyndale House, Wheaton, Illinois.  2005.  Cornuke's memoir of his Ark searches, from Ağrı Dağı in the 1980s to the first Iranian expedition of July 2005.  It gives his own account of the object, its height and the radiocarbon date of the wood his team brought down.

    1. 3a.

      Page 237:  “I had these wood samples tested by Beta Analytic, of Miami, Florida, the world’s largest provider of radiocarbon dating to the scientific community. Beta determined the age of the wood to be between 355 and 565 years old”.  “Obviously, wood that is only several hundred years old (rather than several thousand years or more) would not be fragments directly from Noah’s ark”.  The book prints the calendar range as AD 1440-1650.  Beta Analytic's report itself has not been published. ↩ ↩ ↩

    2. 3b.

      Page 244:  “First, the wood is located in thin, cold air at an elevation of 12,500 feet”. ↩

  4. 4.

    Snelling, Andrew A.  “Special Report:  Amazing “Ark” Exposé.”  Creation 14(4):26–38.  Sep 1992.  A claim-by-claim investigation of the Durupınar case by a young-earth geologist of the Creation Science Foundation, now Creation Ministries International.  The reprint at creation.com shows the Turkish Air Force photograph of three similar boat shapes below Lesser Ararat.  Mirror:  Creation.com

    1. 4a.

      Section Introduction:  “However, this particular boat-shape is far from unique. The Turkish Air Force released another photograph several years ago showing three similar boat-shapes in the mudflow material on the footslopes of nearby Lesser Mount Ararat.” ↩ ↩ ↩

    2. 4b.

      Section Introduction:  “So in reality, if it wasn’t for the fact that this particular boat-shape is the approximate length of the biblical Noah’s Ark* then little attention would have been paid to it, even though it lies within the region the Bible describes as the mountains of Ararat (Genesis 8:4).”  Snelling's asterisk leads to his note that the shape "is much wider than the Ark." ↩

    3. 4c.

      Section Trainloads of Petrified Wood?:  “they only analysed for three elements-calcium, iron and carbon”.  “When telephoned, the laboratory was adamant that they were not asked to give an opinion on what the object was and they were unable to do so.” ↩

    4. 4d.

      Section If it is Not the Ark of Noah, Then What is it?:  “the Bible in no way says that Noah’s Ark would be preserved as a witness to future generations”. ↩ ↩

  5. 5.

    Thomas, Brian.  “Possible Ark Site Has Mainstream Media Hopping.”  Institute for Creation Research.  Oct 1, 2026.  The Institute for Creation Research's response to the 2026 Durupınar claims, by a staff research scientist.  It reports Don Patton's photograph of similar forms beside the site.

    1. 5a.

      “I have personally examined the Durupinar site many times.”  “at least three nearby outcrops of similar shape and material”.  “Noah was not an admiral of a fleet.”  The speaker is Don Patton.  The photograph printed with the article is an oblique view with three arrows on ridges beside the mound. ↩ ↩ ↩

  6. 6.

    Habermehl, Anne.  “A Review of the Search for Noah's Ark.”  Proceedings of the Sixth International Conference on Creationism, 485–502.  Creation Science Fellowship, Pittsburgh, and Institute for Creation Research, Dallas.  Edited by Andrew A. Snelling.  2008.  A young-earth review of the whole Ark search for the main creationist research conference.  It weighs Ararat, Cudi, Durupınar and the Iranian proposals, lists the minor candidates, and concludes that the Ark probably did not land on Ararat.

    1. 6a.

      Page 492:  “he gets around that by arguing that “east” refers to the whole country that lies to the east of Babylon, and therefore includes pretty well all of Iran. Also, Mount Suleiman is not within the boundaries of ancient Urartu as delineated in Figure 1, being much too far east”. ↩

    2. 6b.

      Page 492:  “The main objection to the Durupinar “ark” is that it appears to be a naturally occurring geological formation, and is only one of several in the area; the reason that this particular one attracted attention as a possible Ark is that it is about the right length (155 m, using an ancient longer cubit).” ↩ ↩

    3. 6c.

      Page 492:  “Groebli believes that the Ark landed in the central plateau of Iran in the Dasht-e-Kavir desert and is hidden under sand dunes there; he bases this belief on his chosen criteria that the Ark should be located east of Babylon and on a pre-Flood mountain (1999, pp. 313–314).”  Groebli's essay is in B. J. Corbin, ed., The Explorers of Ararat (1999). ↩

    4. 6d.

      Page 487:  “But there are Al-Judi mountains in central Saudi Arabia, and some Muslims believe the Ark landed there.” ↩

    5. 6e.

      Page 492:  “For a truly bizarre interpretation of the Bible and Quran, there is a writer who places the Ark under the desert sands of Saudi Arabia, sitting atop a pre-Flood city built by Cain (Brian, n.d.).” ↩

    6. 6f.

      Page 492:  “there is little known about these, and this author could not find information about any Ark search expeditions that have been made in either location.” ↩

    7. 6g.

      Page 495:  “any 14C dating that is done on wood samples from before the Flood should show abnormally ancient ages if current mainline dating methods are used without taking this low pre-Flood 14C level into account.” ↩

    8. 6h.

      Page 495:  “Since it is possible that not much of the Ark exists today, we cannot count on finding a complete enough skeleton of it to prove the biblical dimensions of length, width and height.” ↩

    9. 6i.

      Page 492:  “The “evidence” that he has brought back (photos, samples of alleged petrified wood) does not impress geologists, who believe his “ark” is nothing but a natural basaltic rock formation (Morris, 2006).” ↩

  7. 7.

    Walker, Tas.  “Caution about ‘Ark’ discovery.”  Creation Ministries International.  Jul 5, 2006.  Creation Ministries International's first response to the Iran announcement, by a young-earth geologist working from the expedition's published photographs.  It reports the team's own statements and compares the "beams" with sheared and foliated rock.

    1. 7a.

      “The fourteen-man expedition, led by explorer and speaker Dr Bob Cornuke, returned with video and photographic evidence of a black object 400 ft long and 13,120 feet above sea level”.  “Barry Rand (former CEO of Avis), Josh McDowell (author and Christian apologist), Frank Turek (author), Boone Powell (former CEO of Baylor Medical Systems), and Arch Bonnema (president of Joshua Financial)”.  “Dr Cornuke is president of the Bible Archaeology Search and Exploration (BASE) Institute, a Christian archeology organization dedicated to looking for biblical artifacts.” ↩ ↩

    2. 7b.

      “These beams not only look like petrified wood, they are so impressive that they look like real wood—this is an amazing discovery that may be the oldest shipwreck in recorded history.” ↩

    3. 7c.

      “some of the wood-like rocks were tested just this week and actually proved to be petrified wood”.  Walker quoting a web report by Brannon Howse. ↩

    4. 7d.

      “the close-up shots of the ‘beams’ suggest that the whole area has been sheared by tectonic movement, causing folding and metamorphism.”  “The beams with their hewn surfaces at right angles look like rock that has fractured along cleavage planes.” ↩

    5. 7e.

      “The object appears to be a basalt dike, however, it is absolutely uncanny that the object looks like hand hewn timbers”.  Reg Lyle, an oil and gas geologist on the team, as reported. ↩ ↩

    6. 7f.

      “If the Ark still existed high in a mountain somewhere, it is more likely its timber would be exposed to rain and snow which would not contain the minerals to petrify it.” ↩

  8. 8.

    Cornuke, Robert, and David Halbrook.  In Search of the Lost Mountains of Noah:  The Discovery of the Real Mountains of Ararat.  Broadman & Holman, Nashville.  2001.  Cornuke's first book on the Ark search, setting out the case that the biblical mountains of Ararat lie in north-west Iran and naming Mount Sabalan as the target of his 1998-2000 expeditions.

    1. 8a.

      Photograph section between pages 134 and 135, caption 4:  “By late 1998, Cornuke’s research hinted that the real “mountains of Ararat” consisted of a rugged mountain range in northwest Iran.”  “stands the towering 16,000-foot Mount Sabalon, itself the object of a rich local tradition as the true resting place of Noah and the ark.” ↩

  9. 9.

    Franz, Gordon.  Did the BASE Institute Discover Noah's Ark in Iran?  Nov 23, 2006.  A section-by-section critique of the BASE Institute's website and Cornuke's books by an archaeologist on the staff of Associates for Biblical Research, revised in November 2006.

    1. 9a.

      “I would agree with the BASE researchers that the descendents of Noah came from the east, but does the text state that the Ark landed east of Shinar? The Biblical passage does not state that Ararat is east of the Land of Shinar.” ↩ ↩

    2. 9b.

      “Dr. Bob Cornuke, president of BASE Institute is not making any claims. Instead, he is sharing photographic and laboratory data, and letting audiences draw their own tentative, informed conclusions”.  Franz quoting a BASE Institute promotional blurb of 2006. ↩

    3. 9c.

      “In this book, Cornuke advocated Mt. Savalon in Iran as part of the Mountains of Ararat.”  “Apparently he did not find Noah's Ark on this mountain so he sought the ark on Mt. Suleiman in the Elburz Mountain Range in Iran near Tehran.” ↩

  10. 10.

    Crouse, Bill, and Steven D. Anderson.  “Geographical and historical concerns in Genesis 8:4—part 1.”  Journal of Creation 38(3):49–55.  Nov 2024.  Two creationist Ark researchers give five reasons to reject Ağrı Dağı as the landing site, among them the unreliability of the eyewitnesses.  Crouse edited the Ararat Report newsletter and interviewed several of the witnesses, including Ed Davis.

    1. 10a.

      Page 53:  “Davis has changed his story several times in the telling, after being questioned by incompetent interrogators.”  “Hence, thereafter, he referred to those who took him to the Ark as Kurds!” ↩

    2. 10b.

      Page 54:  “This mountain is known as Kuh-e Alvand, and to many in that area of the world this mountain is the one on which the Ark landed.”  “Davis claimed that the locals found edible honey, feathers in cages, fish remains, and edible beans within the Ark!” ↩ ↩

    3. 10c.

      Pages 53–54:  “This American soldier was a road builder stationed in Hamadan, Iran.”  “It may be that in 1943, while stationed in Hamadan, Iran, some natives took Davis to a snow-capped mountain about 100 km (60 mi) west of Hamadan.” ↩

  11. 11.

    The King James Version of the Bible.  Project Gutenberg.  2024.  The Authorized Version of 1611, the translation Cornuke quotes.

    1. 11a.

      Verse Genesis 11:2:  “And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.” ↩

    2. 11b.

      Verse Genesis 13:3:  “And he went on his journeys from the south even to Bethel”.  Verse Genesis 13:11:  “Then Lot chose him all the plain of Jordan; and Lot journeyed east”. ↩ ↩

  12. 12.

    Brown, Francis et al.  A Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament.  Clarendon Press, Oxford.  1906.  The standard Hebrew-English lexicon of the Old Testament, cited here for how the word in Genesis 11:2 is used elsewhere.

    1. 12a.

      Section entry קֶדֶם, sense 1:  “eastward, c. vb. of motion Gn 11:2 ; 13:11”.  The entry first lists the senses "in the E." and "on the E. (side)," then this one, for the word used with a verb of motion. ↩

  13. 13.

    Center for Computer Analysis of Texts, University of Pennsylvania.  CATSS morphologically analysed Septuagint, Genesis (Rahlfs text).  n.d.  A word-by-word tagged edition of the Greek Old Testament, cited for the wording of the Septuagint in Genesis 11:2 and 13:11.

    1. 13a.

      Verse Genesis 11:2:  “ἐν τῷ κινῆσαι αὐτοὺς ἀπὸ ἀνατολῶν”.  Verse Genesis 13:11:  “καὶ ἀπῆρεν Λωτ ἀπὸ ἀνατολῶν”.  The edition writes the Greek in Beta Code (A)PO\ A)NATOLW=N);  it is transliterated here. ↩ ↩

  14. 14.

    Lanser, Rick.  “Noah's Ark in Iran?”  Associates for Biblical Research.  Jul 19, 2006.  A response to the 2006 announcement by a researcher at Associates for Biblical Research, a young-earth archaeology group.  It weighs Cornuke's reading of Genesis 11:2, his Assyrian evidence and the petrified-wood premise, and finds none of them persuasive.

    1. 14a.

      Section "From the East":  “we merely accept that Noah and his descendants rather quickly left the immediate environs of Ararat and followed the Araxes River eastward and to unknown points beyond for an indeterminate period of time.” ↩

    2. 14b.

      Section Pitch and Petrification:  “such a pitch treatment would tend to PREVENT wood from petrifying.” ↩

  15. 15.

    Great-circle distances and initial bearings from the ruins of Babylon (32.54° N, 44.42° E), computed in research/pricing.ts:  to the Takht-e Suleiman massif (about 36.39° N, 50.96° E), 737 km at 53°;  to the summit of Ağrı Dağı, 797 km at 359°;  to Cudi Dağı, 569 km at 341°. ↩

  16. 16.

    Wilson, Jennifer.  “Is Noah's Ark on mount in Iran?”  Deseret News, from The Gazette, Colorado Springs.  Aug 12, 2006.  A newspaper interview with Cornuke and a team member after the 2006 expedition, recording where the new samples were sent.

    1. 16a.

      “They returned in June of this year to take more samples, which they”.  “delivered to scientists in New York for analysis, Cornuke said.” ↩

  17. 17.

    ScienceBlogs, Dispatches from the Culture Wars.  Young Earth Creationist Debunks Noah's Ark Find.  Jul 5, 2006.  A secular science blog's comment on Creation Ministries International's response, written from the expedition's photographs two weeks after the announcement.

    1. 17a.

      “They say they have them, but have never revealed who did the testing, what tests were performed, or released the actual lab report.” ↩

  18. 18.

    Corbin, B. J.  Did Noah's Ark Land in Aratta?  n.d.  Retrieved Oct 18, 2026.  The personal site of an Ark searcher who edited a collection of Ararat explorers' essays and joined four expeditions to Ağrı Dağı.  It sets out his later view that the landing lies in Iran's Zagros mountains, at Alvand near Hamadan, on the strength of Genesis 11:2 and Sumerian texts about Aratta.

    1. 18a.

      Section introduction:  “After participating in four expeditions to Mount Ararat (1988, 1989, 1990, 1998) searching for remains of Noah's Ark -- based mostly on sensational eye-witness accounts -- I refocused my research on the Iranian Zagros Mountains using ancient texts.”  “Alvand Mountain as the most likely landing site of Noah's (Ziusudra's/Atrahasis'/Utnapishtim's) Ark”. ↩

  19. 19.

    Brian.  “The City of Chanoch (Founded by Cain):  The Preflood Era's Sin City.”  Brian's Annex.  c. 1999.  A personal web page that reads Genesis 4:17 and Qur'an 11:44 together to put the Ark under Arabian sand on top of Cain's city.  It offers no find, survey or sample.

    1. 19a.

      Section "AL-JUDI" and following:  “Second, the Al-Judi of Sura 11:44 is definitely NOT a mountain.”  “Noah's ark has been a great canopy atop the preserved remains of the preflood city of Cain called Al-Judi and Chanoch.”  “62 statute miles north of Tayma', Saudi Arabia”. ↩

  20. 20.

    The Sibylline Oracles.  Eaton and Mains, New York.  Translated by Milton S. Terry.  1899.  An English verse translation of the Sibylline Oracles, a collection of Jewish and Christian prophetic poems of the Roman period.  Terry's line numbers run about 59 above the standard numbering, so his lines 320-326 are book 1, lines 261-267, in the editions of Geffcken and Collins.

    1. 20a.

      Book 1, lines 320–325 (Terry's numbering):  “There is in Phrygia on the dark mainland”.  “A steep, tall mountain; Ararat its name,”.  “Thence streams of the great river Marsyas spring.”  “There on a lofty peak the ark abode”. ↩

  21. 21.

    Roman Provincial Coinage Online, Ashmolean Museum, Oxford.  RPC VI 5706 (temporary), Apamea, Severus Alexander.  n.d.  Retrieved Oct 18, 2026.  The standard catalogue record of a large bronze coin struck at Apamea in Phrygia under Severus Alexander (AD 222-235), with a specimen in the Bibliothèque nationale de France.

    1. 21a.

      Section reverse design:  “Noah and his wife standing, left, raising their right hands; behind, Noah and his wife standing within an inscribed chest or ark floating on waves, left; two doves standing face to face on the lid”. ↩

  22. 22.

    Kiełczewska, Aleksandra.  “Monety z Apamei Kibotos. Najstarsza ikonografia Arki Noego.”  Vox Patrum 52(1).  2008.  A Polish study of the Apamea Noah coins as the oldest pictures of the Ark;  its English abstract lists the six emperors under whom the type was struck.

    1. 22a.

      Section English abstract:  “Septimus Severus (193- 211), Macrinus (217-218), Alexander Severus (222-235), Gordian III (238-244), Philip the Arab (244-249) and Trebonius Gallus (251-253)”. ↩

  23. 23.

    Ramsay, William M.  The Cities and Bishoprics of Phrygia, volume 1, part 2.  Clarendon Press, Oxford.  1897.  The classic historical geography of Phrygia by the archaeologist who surveyed it on foot.  Its chapter on Apamea explains the city's Noah coins and the local landing tradition.

    1. 23a.

      Pages 671–672:  “there is no evidence whether the by-name (which occurs first in Strabo about A.D. 19) was derived from the tale, or the tale was localized here because of the name.”  “We must therefore conclude, with MM. Ch. Lenormant and Th. Reinach, that the hill of Kelainai was considered by the Apamean Jews to be the spot where the ark had rested, because an Apamean legend of a deluge was already connected with the hill.” ↩

  24. 24.

    George, A. R.  The Babylonian Gilgamesh Epic:  Introduction, Critical Edition and Cuneiform Texts.  Oxford University Press, Oxford.  2003.  The standard critical edition of the Gilgamesh epic, with commentary, by its leading modern editor.

    1. 24a.

      Page 516:  “in due course the ark ran aground on one, Mt Nimuš”.  “the most obvious identification of the peak as that now known as Pir Omar Gudrun”.  “The mountain of the ark crops up differently named in different traditions.” ↩

  25. 25.

    Collins, Lorence G., and David F. Fasold.  “Bogus “Noah’s Ark” from Turkey Exposed as a Common Geologic Structure.”  Journal of Geoscience Education 44(4):439–444.  1996.  A geology paper by a California State University Northridge petrologist and David Fasold, who had promoted the site.  It reports microscope and chemical studies of the supposed iron bracket, the walls and an anchor stone.  The author's later postscript withdraws the paper's fold interpretation in favour of a landslide flowing around a resistant knob, a mechanism that would make streamlined forms wherever such a flow meets an obstacle.

    1. 25a.

      Section Introduction:  “One scientist in the group ventured that nothing in nature could produce such symmetry, although nothing man-made was discovered.”  The 1960 expedition reported in Life, 5 September 1960. ↩

    2. 25b.

      Section Introduction:  “Other streamlined rock-shapes have been found in the area (Guner, 1986), but according to Bayraktutan, these shapes do not display the same morphological and internal features.” ↩ ↩

  26. 26.

    The five forms were first noticed on Google Maps satellite imagery of the south-west slope of Greater Ararat.  This article located them from that view's camera position and heading and measured the largest on Esri World Imagery at 1.84 m per pixel (satellite view).  Its inner smooth surface is about 650 by 300 m and its outer ridges about 1 km long, to within about 10 %.  Elevations are from the SRTM 30 m elevation model:  2,466 m at the largest form and 1,954 m at Durupınar.  Distances are great-circle distances computed in research/pricing.ts:  20.8 km from the largest form to Durupınar, 8.7 km to the summit of Ağrı Dağı and 11.6 km to the summit of Lesser Ararat.  The four smaller forms were not measured one by one. ↩

  27. 27.

    Three hundred cubits (Genesis 6:15) is 133 m at a cubit of 44.45 cm and 164 m at 54.7 cm, the longest cubit needed to fit Durupınar's longest published length;  164 ÷ 133 = 1.23.  The illustration spreads form lengths evenly on a logarithmic scale from 50 m to 1,000 m, so the chance that one form falls in the window is ln(164/133) ÷ ln(1000/50) = 0.206 ÷ 3.00 = 6.9 %.  The chance that at least one of n forms falls in it is 1 − 0.931ⁿ.  The distribution is an assumption made for scale;  no survey of the district's forms exists.  The arithmetic is in research/pricing.ts. ↩ ↩

  28. 28.

    Callow, W. J. et al.  “National Physical Laboratory Radiocarbon Measurements III.”  Radiocarbon 7:156–161.  1965.  A routine date list from the British National Physical Laboratory's radiocarbon unit, giving each sample's laboratory number, description, age and comment.  Entry NPL-61 is the earliest published laboratory date on Navarra's wood.

    1. 28a.

      Page 161:  “Oak wood of uncertain species (variously identified as Q. pedunculata, Q. Leucobalanus,”.  “or Q. cerris) from very large timber structure under ice at 14,000 ft ASL on NW face of Mount Ararat”.  The species omitted between the two parts is Q. castanifolia, which the scan breaks across a space.  “Coll. between 1950 and 1955 by Fernand Navarra”.  “Comment: evidently not the Ark.”  The result is 1190 ± 90, A.D. 760, on the 5568-year half-life. ↩ ↩

  29. 29.

    Snelling, Andrew A.  Is the Wood Recently Found on Mt. Ararat from the Ark?  Answers in Genesis.  Nov 9, 2011.  Snelling's publication of the Hong Kong team's four radiocarbon results, which they had given him before the announcement, with his reading of each.  The laboratories are not named because the team did not name them.

    1. 29a.

      Section Table 1:  “Activity higher than 100% of modern level. It means that this tree was growing after 1955.”  “C-14 age = 120±25 years BP”.  “C-14 age = 135±30 years BP”.  “C-14 age = 610±25 years BP”.  “C-14 age = 4269–4800 years BP”. ↩ ↩

  30. 30.

    Snelling, Andrew A.  A Response to the Accusations of Noah's Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism by Emphasizing Truths They Have Ignored about My Carbon-14 Dating Report.  Answers in Genesis.  Dec 6, 2011.  Snelling's reply after the team accused him of misusing their data.  It gives the timeline of his contact with them and his reasons for the age an Ark sample should show.

    1. 30a.

      “The fourth wood sample, sample D, was only tested at Laboratory 3, but this laboratory did not follow standard procedures and did not measure the δ13C value or report a ± error margin.” ↩ ↩

    2. 30b.

      “It is for these reasons I stated in my article that a wood sample from the Ark must carbon-14 date older than 4,800 years.” ↩

  31. 31.

    The eleven candidates are the rows of the table in Part 4.  If the Ark rests in one place, at most one row is right, so at least 10 of 11 are wrong.  A twelfth candidate given equal prior weight has at most a 1 in 12 chance.  Of the three sites whose physical evidence was tested (Ağrı Dağı, Durupınar, Takht-e Suleiman), none survived;  Cudi is not counted, because its one sample is unsettled, and Sabalan is not counted, because no object was claimed there.  Laplace's rule of succession gives (0 + 1) ÷ (3 + 2) = 20 % for the next tested site, and the exact 95 % upper bound on a pass rate after 0 passes in 3 trials is 1 − 0.05^(1/3) = 63 %.  The arithmetic is in research/pricing.ts. ↩ ↩

  32. 32.

    Bailey, Lloyd R.  Noah: The Person and the Story in History and Tradition.  University of South Carolina Press, Columbia.  1989.  A scholarly study of the Noah story in the Bible, the ancient Near East and later tradition by an Old Testament scholar.  Its chapter on Navarra's wood lists every radiocarbon result, with laboratory numbers where they were published, and Bailey confirmed the unpublished ones by telephone with the laboratory directors.

    1. 32a.

      Pages 95–96:  “Five laboratories have subjected Navarra's wood to radiocarbon (C14) analysis”.  The 1955 wood:  National Physical Laboratory 1,190 ± 90, UCLA 1,230 ± 60, UC Riverside 1,210 ± 90, Geochron 1,690 ± 120 on an inadequate sample, Teledyne unpublished.  The 1969 wood:  University of Pennsylvania 1,340 ± 50, Geochron 1,350 ± 95.  Laboratory numbers GX-1668 and GX-1667 are in Bailey's notes 147 and 150 on p. 222. ↩

  33. 33.

    Snelling's minimum for Ark wood is 4,800 radiocarbon years.  The published results reach 1,690 ÷ 4,800 = 35 % of it at best (Geochron, on half a sample of Navarra's wood), 1,190 ÷ 4,800 = 25 % for the National Physical Laboratory's date on the same wood, 610 ÷ 4,800 = 13 % for Hong Kong sample C, and about 565 ÷ 4,800 = 12 % for the older end of Cornuke's Beta Analytic range.  Computed in research/pricing.ts. ↩