Creationist Arguments That Were Withdrawn

Young-earth creationists withdrew moon dust, the shrinking Sun, solar neutrinos, the vapour canopy, decaying light speed, the Paluxy man tracks and six other arguments, almost always on their own scientists' evidence. Withdrawal took about nineteen years on median, organisations lagged their scientists, and eight of twelve tracked arguments still circulate.

By AI (Claude Opus 5.5, thinking level unavailable) Draft:  October 2026

"Thus, until new evidence is forthcoming, creationists should not continue to use the dust on the moon as evidence against an old age for the moon and the solar system." — Andrew Snelling and David Rush, 19931

Summary

This is a register.  Each entry gives an argument young-earth creationists once made, in its proponents' own words at its peak;  the evidence that undid it;  who withdrew it and how, in the words of the withdrawal;  who still uses it;  and whether the withdrawal was right.  Where a sibling article already weighs the evidence in full, the entry gives the verdict and links there.  Failed predictions are scored separately in Successful Creationist Predictions.

The findings:

  1. The movement's own scientists did almost all of the withdrawing. Of twelve arguments tracked here, every first withdrawal came from a young-earth creationist writing in a young-earth venue: Snelling and Rush on moon dust (1993), DeYoung and Rush on the shrinking Sun (1989), Aardsma and Humphreys on decaying light speed (1988), Newton on solar neutrinos (2002), Berney Neufeld (1975) and then John Morris (1986) on the Paluxy tracks, Chadwick on Burdick's Precambrian pollen (1981), Wise and later Clarey on the Lewis Overthrust (1986, 2013), Faulkner on missing supernova remnants (2017), Jerlström on the Zuiyo-maru "plesiosaur" (1998), Halley on the Ta Prohm "stegosaurus" (2025), and the don't-use list itself on the canopy and the coal finds.2341567 Outside critics had often reached the same answer earlier, and Glen Kuban's site visits of 1985 drove the Paluxy withdrawal,8 but every retraction was written from inside.
  2. It took about nineteen years on median. From first print in a creationist source to first withdrawal by a creationist, the twelve lags run from about 5 years (solar neutrinos) to about 40 (the vapour canopy, the coal artefacts), with a median of 19. The fastest withdrawals came where one decisive check could be run: the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory's results of 2001 and 2002, and Aardsma's weighted refit of the 1987 light-speed data within a year of its publication.9
  3. The organisations lagged their scientists, and their lists cover only part of the record. The one standing list, "Arguments we think creationists should NOT use," began at Answers in Genesis (earliest surviving copy December 2001, 33 entries) and is now kept by Creation Ministries International (44 entries).1011 It carries 7 of the 12 arguments here. It does not carry the shrinking Sun, Burdick's pollen, the Lewis Overthrust, the missing supernova remnants or Ta Prohm. The Institute for Creation Research keeps no such list; it states a standard instead.1213
  4. The list has only grown, and its tiers have moved both ways. Every one of the 33 entries of December 2001 is still on the page in 2026. Dated archive copies show the solar-neutrino entry added between December 2001 and 2005, the canopy hardened from "doubtful" to "definitely not be used" between April and October 2016, living dinosaurs added in early 2018, and the Paluxy tracks moved down, from "definitely not" to "doubtful," between March and May 2024, with the wording unchanged.14151617 That last move is not explained on the page.
  5. Eight of the twelve are still in circulation somewhere. Moon dust, the shrinking Sun, solar neutrinos and the Lewis Overthrust denial have effectively stopped.18 The canopy survives in a study Bible and on a museum site; decaying light speed in its author's own later work; the Paluxy tracks on pages carrying Don Patton's material; the coal artefacts on creation-museum pages; the Hakatai pollen on the Creation Research Society's website; living plesiosaurs and the Ta Prohm "stegosaurus" in Answers in Genesis's 2025 evidence register; and the missing supernova remnants on all three large ministries' sites.
  6. Every withdrawal examined here was right on the evidence. None was a loss of nerve. Several were too gentle: the c-decay entry is still filed as merely "doubtful," and the Paluxy entry was softened in 2024 although nothing in the evidence changed.
  7. The record answers both caricatures. "Creationists never retract" is false; they retracted these arguments, publicly and at cost, and in several cases, such as the Hakatai pollen and the light-speed refit, creationists did the decisive work themselves. "The movement corrects itself" is also too generous: retraction travels from journals to websites slowly and incompletely, and the people still using these arguments are named below.

Verdict:  real self-correction, done mostly by working scientists inside the movement, followed by slow, partial and uneven uptake by its organisations and almost none by its museums, study Bibles and independent speakers.


Part 1: The lists, and what they record

Who keeps a list

One list does most of the work.  Answers in Genesis put up "Arguments we think creationists should NOT use" as a question-and-answer page.  The earliest copy in the Internet Archive is dated 15 December 2001.  It already had two tiers, "Which arguments should definitely not be used?" and "What arguments are doubtful, hence inadvisable to use?", and 33 entries.10  When the Australian and American arms of the ministry separated, the page went with the Australians, now Creation Ministries International, where Jonathan Sarfati maintains it at creation.com under a first-published date of 7 February 2006.11  Answers in Genesis now keeps a topic page called "Arguments to Avoid" with articles on single arguments but no tiers and no dates.19

The preface has barely changed in twenty-five years.  The 2001 version said that "many of these arguments have never been promoted by AiG, and some have not been promoted by any major creationist organization and are instead straw men set up by anti-creationists."10  The current one says the same of CMI and gives the reason for the whole exercise:

"Persisting in using discredited arguments simply rebounds—it's the truth that sets us free (John 8:32), not error, and Christ is "the truth" (John 14:6)!  Since there is so much good evidence for creation, there is no need to use any of the 'doubtful' arguments."11

The straw-man caveat matters for counting.  Most of the 44 entries are not scientific arguments at all.  Some are folk claims that no creationist scientist made:  the NASA "missing day," Darwin's deathbed conversion, a faked moon landing, a flat earth, a rib missing from men.  Others are readings of Scripture (the Gospel in the stars, Peleg and the continents) or debating phrases ("evolution is just a theory").  They are on the list because laymen use them, and this article does not count them as withdrawn arguments.  The register below takes only the arguments that creationist writers printed as science.

The Institute for Creation Research has no list.12  Its position is a standard rather than a register.  Jason Lisle, then its director of physical sciences, wrote in 2017:

"The evidence in question may be plausible but insufficiently supported at present.  If we are going to tell someone what to believe, it's not good enough to simply suspect or suppose that the premise in question is true.  We must know that it is true."13

The first test of the list: Kent Hovind

The list was tested within a year.  On 12 August 2002 the evangelist Kent Hovind published a reply defending several entries, including the coal artefacts and Carl Baugh's evidences.  Answers in Genesis answered him point by point on 11 October 2002 in "Maintaining Creationist Integrity."20  The 2001 list had already named him:  "there are talented creationist speakers with reasonably orthodox understandings of Genesis (e.g. Kent Hovind) who continue to promote some of the Wyatt and Baugh 'evidences' despite being approached on the matter."10  In November 2009 CMI added a note that Hovind's ministry website "no longer espouses a number of the "don't use arguments" defended by Kent Hovind in 2002," and that "there are lots of "free-to-copy" DVDs of Kent Hovind's old talks circulating widely around the world and it will be some time before they disappear from circulation."20

That note describes the whole problem this article measures.  A ministry can correct its website.  It cannot recall a DVD.

What the dated copies show

The page carries no change log.  Its history has to be read from archived copies, and this article compared the December 2001 and 2005 copies of the Answers in Genesis page with copies of the CMI page from 2012, April 2016, October 2016, 2017, January and June 2018, 2022, 2023, March, May and August 2024, and September and October 2026.21

Change When What the page says
Solar neutrinos added, "definitely not" between Dec 2001 and 2005 "creationists should no longer invoke the missing neutrino problem"22
"Light was created in transit" added, "definitely not" between 2005 and Jan 2012 "This, in effect, suggests that God is a deceiver."11
Canopy moved up, from "doubtful" to "definitely not" between 15 Apr and 5 Oct 2016 "but some creationists suggest a partial canopy may have been present" becomes "So all creationist geologists prefer a different model."1415
Living dinosaurs and plesiosaurs added, "doubtful" between 31 Jan and Jun 2018 "CMI's position is no longer "wait and see""11
Paluxy moved down, from "definitely not" to "doubtful" between 4 Mar and 14 May 2024 wording unchanged1617

Nothing has been deleted.  All 33 entries of December 2001 are on the 2026 page.21  The list grows and occasionally re-tiers.  It never says when or why.

The Paluxy move deserves a sentence of its own.  From at least December 2001 to March 2024 the tracks sat among the arguments that "should definitely not be used."  Between March and May 2024 they moved to "doubtful, hence inadvisable to use," with the entry's text, including "Research to date has not been promising about the tracks," left exactly as it was.17  No new Paluxy evidence appeared in 2024.  The likeliest reading is an editorial regrouping, since the doubtful tier now opens with the related dinosaur entries, but the page does not say, and a reader comparing copies sees a softening without a reason.


Part 2: The register, sky and Sun

1. Moon dust

At its peak.  The Genesis Flood (1961) took the oceanographer Hans Pettersson's estimate that "14,300,000 tons of such dust—settles to earth each year."23  Henry Morris's Scientific Creationism (1974) did the arithmetic and carried it to the Moon:  over five billion years there "should have accumulated … a layer of meteoritic dust approximately 182 feet thick all over the world!  There is not the slightest sign of such a dust layer anywhere of course.  On the moon's surface it should be at least as thick, but the astronauts found no sign of it."24

What undid it.  The input.  Andrew Snelling and David Rush spent years collecting every measurement of the influx, from satellite detectors, deep-sea sediments, lunar microcraters and the lunar soil itself, and found that most estimates for the Earth run 10,000 to 20,000 tons a year, about a thousandth of Pettersson's figure.1  Morris's own arithmetic with that input gives about 2 inches, not 182 feet.25  Apollo found "up to a few inches of loose dust" over a regolith "usually several metres thick," in which the meteoritic material is about 1.5 percent.1

The withdrawal.  Snelling and Rush, in Answers in Genesis's own technical journal, April 1993:  "Unfortunately, attempted counter-responses by creationists have so far failed because of spurious arguments or faulty calculations.  Thus, until new evidence is forthcoming, creationists should not continue to use the dust on the moon as evidence against an old age for the moon and the solar system."1  Their acknowledgement adds that the conclusions "unfortunately are not as encouraging or complimentary for us young earth creationists as we would have liked."1  The argument is on the 2001 list as "definitely not" and has never left it.11  In July 2014 CMI attached a note that new NASA data "seems to raise the possibility of at least a partial revival," and that any reassessment "would need to be similarly thorough and careful."26

Still used.  Effectively no.  A September 2026 census of 329 young-earth websites found no affirmative use.18  The nearest is Jay Wile's 2024 repost, filed under "Young Age Evidence," which recomputes the old inference from a newer measurement and then answers its own question:  "So should creationists start using the moon dust argument again?  Certainly not!"27

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly.  Lag:  19 years from Scientific Creationism, 24 from the first Moon landing.  A tenfold higher influx would still leave Morris's number a hundredfold too large.

2. The shrinking Sun

At its peak.  In 1979 John Eddy and Aram Boornazian reported, in a conference abstract, that the Sun's diameter had shrunk by about 0.1 percent a century since 1863.  Creationists, in Danny Faulkner's account, "quickly took note of this report, and used it to argue that the sun may be powered by Kelvin-Helmholtz contraction rather than nuclear fusion," and "many creationists viewed the shrinking sun as a sort of silver bullet that would falsify the evolutionary timescale."28  Faulkner's list of users runs from Hinderliter and Ackridge in 1980 to Henry Morris in 1985 and Rybka in 1993.

What undid it.  More data.  "Soon several papers were published refuting the shrinking sun with additional historical data," and Eddy and Boornazian never returned to their abstract.28  The abstract itself reported rates that differed threefold between the horizontal and vertical diameters, which no shrinking sphere can do;  the detail is in Astronomy Arguments to Retire.

The withdrawal.  Donald DeYoung and David Rush, Creation Research Society Quarterly, 1989.  They concluded, in Faulkner's summary, "that the evidence was ambiguous enough that one could not be certain whether the sun is powered by gravitational contraction, nuclear fusion, or a combination of both, and hence the sun is not a good age indicator on this front."28  It is on no list.

Still used.  No live use was found in 2026.18

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly, and too politely:  "ambiguous" understates a claim that its own source abstract undercut.  Lag:  about 9 years.

3. Missing solar neutrinos

At its peak.  Detectors from the late 1960s caught about a third of the neutrinos that fusion in the Sun's core should produce.  Some creationists proposed, as CMI's list summarises it, "that the sun was powered one-third by fusion and two-thirds by gravitational collapse.  This would have limited the age to far less than 4.5 billion years."11  Andrew Snelling's 1997 paper "Solar Neutrinos:  The Critical Shortfall Still Elusive" was the last full statement.29

What undid it.  The Sudbury Neutrino Observatory, 2001 and 2002, detected the "missing" neutrinos as other flavours.  The total matched the fusion prediction.

The withdrawal.  Fast.  Robert Newton wrote it up in Journal of Creation in 2002, and by 2005 the list carried it among arguments that should definitely not be used:  "creationists should no longer invoke the missing neutrino problem to deny that fusion is the primary source of energy for the sun.  So it cannot be used as a young-age indicator—nor an old-age indicator for that matter."22  Answers in Genesis put the correction inside the abstract of Snelling's 1997 paper:  "creationists should no longer use this as an 'age' argument."29

Still used.  No live use was found in 2026.18

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly, and the cleanest case in the register:  a decisive measurement, a retraction within a year or two, and the correction attached to the original paper where a reader will find it.

4. Missing supernova remnants

At its peak.  Keith Davies argued at the 1994 International Conference on Creationism that the galaxy shows too few old supernova remnants.  Russell Humphreys's widely reprinted "Evidence for a Young World" (2005) made it item 2 of 14:  "the nearby parts of our galaxy in which we could observe such gas and dust shells contain only about 200 supernova remnants.  That number is consistent with only about 7,000 years worth of supernovas."30

What undid it.  Remnants older than the argument allows.  Faulkner listed seventeen older than its cutoff.  He also checked Davies's supporting quotations and found the 1983 National Research Council question Davies relied on, "Where have all the remnants gone?", was about the opposite problem:  "note that the concern was not for missing old SNR, but with missing young SNRs."7

The withdrawal.  Danny Faulkner, Answers Research Journal, 2017:  "reexamination of the data shows that there indeed are old supernova remnants, and that stage three supernova remnants have been identified.  Therefore, this may not be a good argument for recent origin, and I discourage recent creationists from using it."7  It is on no list.

Still used.  Yes, and by the organisation that published the withdrawal.  Answers in Genesis still serves Humphreys's 2005 article with the argument at item 2, uncorrected, in five translations;  the Institute for Creation Research serves the same text;  CMI's own supernova page, last updated in 2011, never mentions Faulkner.  David Coppedge used the argument in September 2023 and Charles Jackson in June 2022.1830

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly, by one astronomer, in one journal, and not yet by any institution.  Lag:  23 years from Davies.  Nine years after the withdrawal, this is the largest gap in the register between what the movement's scientists say and what its websites serve.

5. Faulkner's audit: thirty-two at once

The largest single act of withdrawal in the movement's history is not on any list.  In two 2019 papers in Answers Research Journal Danny Faulkner graded 48 astronomical young-age arguments, retired 32, kept 14 and left 2 undecided.31  He wrote:  "I discourage the use of those young-age indicators that do not survive scrutiny."28  The retirements include red Sirius, technetium stars, the Algol paradox, star-cluster break-up and lunar dust.  None of the 32 has reached Answers in Genesis's own "Arguments to Avoid" page.32  Astronomy Arguments to Retire goes through them and disagrees with Faulkner on two he kept.  This register counts the audit once, as a batch, and does not count its 32 items in the totals.


Part 3: The register, water and light

6. The vapour canopy

At its peak.  John Whitcomb and Henry Morris read the "waters above the firmament" of Genesis 1:6-7 as a canopy of water vapour over the pre-Flood earth in 1961.  Morris's Scientific Creationism (1974) gave it its full explanatory load:  "The favorable climate, aided by the highly effective radiation filter provided by the vapor canopy, would favor abundant plant and animal life, longevity of animal life, and growth of large-sized animal organisms."24  Joseph Dillow's The Waters Above (1981) built the model with 12.19 metres of precipitable water.33  It supplied Flood water, long lifespans, a mild climate and a rainless world at once.

What undid it.  The canopy's own modellers.  David Rush and Larry Vardiman ran a standard radiation code at the Institute for Creation Research and reported in 1990 that "only 50 mb of water vapor added above the present atmosphere would raise the surface temperature as determined by a radiation balance from 320 K to 409 K," which is half a metre of water, one twenty-fourth of Dillow's canopy.34  In 1998 Vardiman and Karen Bousselot tuned every parameter in the canopy's favour and got "as much as 1.0 meter," and added:  "Unfortunately, this amount of water in a canopy would not contribute significantly to the waters of the Genesis Flood or produce significant pressure and density effects."35  The constraint they would not relax was biblical:  "The chief reason why we cannot allow thick clouds is a Biblical one:  heavenly objects need to be visible."34

The withdrawal.  In three steps over 25 years.  The 2001 list filed it as doubtful:  "no suitable model has been developed that holds sufficient water;  but some creationists suggest a partial canopy may have been present."10  Between April and October 2016 CMI moved it to "definitely not" and replaced the partial-canopy clause:  "So all creationist geologists prefer a different model."15  In March 2026 Answers in Genesis published Roger Patterson's verdict:  "The canopy is not clearly described in the text, and it provides more scientific problems than it solves.  As scientists and theologians, we would do more for the biblical creationist movement to ring the death bell of the canopy and move on to other endeavors."36  Vardiman himself never recanted in print;  he published the numbers and proposed putting the water in orbit instead.

Still used.  Yes, at the edges.  Patterson notes that The MacArthur Study Bible, "one of the most widely distributed study Bibles available in multiple translations and languages," carries the canopy in its notes at Genesis 1:7, 7:4, 7:11 and 2 Peter 3:5.36  The Genesis Park museum site still presents it at length, and the claims it once justified, such as pre-Flood longevity from screened radiation and giant animals in a denser atmosphere, still travel without it.18

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly.  Lag:  40 years from The Genesis Flood to the first "doubtful" listing, 55 to "definitely not," 65 to Answers in Genesis's "death bell."  This is the slowest institutional withdrawal in the register, though the scientific one was fast:  the modellers published the numbers that killed it within nine years of Dillow's book.  Astronomy Arguments to Retire gives the physics in full.

7. Decaying speed of light

At its peak.  Barry Setterfield argued from 1981, and with Trevor Norman in a 1987 report prepared for Lambert Dolphin of SRI International, that the speed of light has fallen since creation:  "A systematic, non-linear decay trend is revealed by 163 measurements of c in dynamical time by 16 methods over 300 years."37  If light was once millions of times faster, the distant-starlight problem disappears by physics, not by miracle.

What undid it.  A creationist physicist's refit within a year.  The report had given every measurement equal weight, though their stated uncertainties run from ± 20,000 km/s to ± 0.0003 km/s.  Gerald Aardsma, head of the Institute for Creation Research's astro-geophysics department, weighted the 163 points by their precision and got "decay of c = 0.0000140 ± 0.0000596 km/s/year," which is zero within the error.4  Russell Humphreys, who wanted the result to be true, wrote that "the underlying facts just do not support the hypothesis."38  In 1992 Eugene Chaffin redid Rømer's seventeenth-century eclipse timings and found that the report's 2.6 percent anchor "was not real."39  Decaying Speed of Light prices every step.

The withdrawal.  Aardsma, Creation Research Society Quarterly, June 1988:  "In the absence of positive, historical, experimental evidence for the decay of c, and in the face of the unacceptable implications of the theory, the hypothesis must be rejected."4  Andrew Repp's 2022 survey in the same journal records the outcome:  "a general consensus has emerged (see e.g., Chaffin, 1992) that the purported evidence for such decay is artifactual in nature."40  The don't-use list has filed it as "doubtful" since at least 2001, with a reason that has not changed:  "Although most of the evolutionary counter-arguments have been proven to be fallacious, there are still a number of problems, many of which were raised by creationists, which we believe have not been satisfactorily answered."11

Still used.  Yes, by its author.  Setterfield's own site carries his "Modifications to Light-Speed Model," dated 2001 and updated February 2012, which moves the mechanism to a rising zero-point energy and reports that "evidence is accumulating that a slight rise in c has occurred."41

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly, and filed too gently.  "Doubtful" undersells a hypothesis that the movement's own physicists rejected on its own data in 1988, and the list's remark that "most of the evolutionary counter-arguments have been proven to be fallacious" is beside the point, because the decisive counter-arguments were creationist ones and were never answered.  Lag:  7 years from Setterfield's first articles, 1 year from the 1987 report.


Part 4: The register, rocks and fossils

8. The Paluxy "man tracks"

At its peak.  The claim reached The Genesis Flood in 1961, the film Footprints in Stone in 1973 and John Morris's book Tracking Those Incredible Dinosaurs in 1980.  The Institute for Creation Research's 1976 Impact opened:  "One of the most shattering pieces of evidence comes from the Paluxy River basin in central Texas, near the town of Glen Rose, where fossilized tracks of man and dinosaur appear together."42

What undid it.  Carvings sold in the 1930s, elongated dinosaur tracks whose side toes had been filled by mud, and from 1982 the toes coming back as coloured infill.  A creationist team from Loma Linda said so in 1975:  "it is obvious that the tracks cannot be both man and dinosaur."2  Glen Kuban, who had been raised a creationist, mapped the trails from 1980.  Human and Dinosaur Tracks Together gives the evidence.

The withdrawal.  Films for Christ took the film out of circulation in December 1985.8  ICR's Impact of 1 January 1986, written by the author of the 1980 book, ended:  "Even though it would now be improper for creationists to continue to use the Paluxy data as evidence against evolution, in the light of these questions, there is still much that is not known about the tracks and continued research is in order.  We stand committed to truth, and will gladly modify or abandon our previous interpretation of the Paluxy data as the facts dictate."3  The same page hinted, without evidence, that the colouring could have been applied with "readily available chemical agents";3  ICR's own 2013 retrospective reported that "we could find no evidence that any foreign chemical had been added,"43 and put Morris's change of mind earlier:  "in 1984 I concluded we had most likely made an error."43  The list carried Paluxy as "definitely not" from 2001 until 2024, and as "doubtful" since.1017

Still used.  Yes, outside the large organisations.  The bible.ca site, whose track pages carry Don Patton's material, still promotes the Delk slab of 2008, a loose rock with a "human" print under a dinosaur print that by its promoters' account "sat in his living room for years" before the human print was noticed.44  CMI's geologist Tas Walker answered it in 2019:  "This means that the artefact has no real apologetic value."45

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly.  Lag:  14 years from The Genesis Flood to Neufeld's paper, and 25 to ICR's withdrawal, which came ten years after ICR's own pamphlet.  ICR's 1986 withdrawal is real but hedged, and the hedge sat beside an insinuation of tampering that took ICR 27 years to close.

9. Precambrian pollen in the Grand Canyon

At its peak.  Clifford Burdick reported in the Creation Research Society Quarterly in 1966 that pollen of conifers and flowering plants occurs in four Grand Canyon shales down to the Precambrian Hakatai Shale.  His summary:  "Finding of spores of plants at least closely related to pines in the Pre-Cambrian makes it extremely difficult to visualize any evolutionary development of these specialized plants.  The undoubted occurance of pollen of flowering plants is even more difficult to explain in usually accepted evolutionary concepts."46  He drew the wider moral on the page before:  "I am inclined to consider retention of the idea of time significance more a matter of faith than science."46

What undid it.  Arthur Chadwick, a creationist biologist at Loma Linda, went to the canyon with Burdick in 1971, relocated his sample localities, re-sampled them on three further trips, and ran fifty samples under contamination controls:  "No single example of an authentic pollen grain was obtained from any of these samples."5  Burdick's eighteen identifiable grains matched, taxon by taxon, the modern pollen falling on the canyon rim.5  The Order of the Fossil Record and Claimed Fossil Anomalies give the detail.

The withdrawal.  By one scientist, not by any organisation.  Chadwick, in the Geoscience Research Institute's journal Origins in 1981:  "The simplest hypothesis to explain Burdick's data is that the pollen grains he reported in 1966 and in 1972 were modern contamination picked up either during collection and transportation or infiltrated into the sample itself prior to collection."5  The claim is on no don't-use list, and no statement on it from Answers in Genesis or ICR was found.

Still used.  Yes, by the society that published it.  The Creation Research Society's website hosts Carl Froede's "Precambrian Plant Fossils and the Hakatai Shale Controversy," which argues against rejecting the plant fossils.47

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly by Chadwick, and never withdrawn by the movement.  Lag:  15 years to Chadwick;  sixty years and counting for the Creation Research Society.  Of the twelve entries this is the clearest case of a correction that exists in print and has no institutional owner.

10. "No sign of thrusting" at the Lewis Overthrust

At its peak.  Whitcomb and Morris, 1961, on the Lewis Overthrust of Montana and Alberta, where Precambrian rock lies on Cretaceous:  "In the light of such physical evidence as cited above, how is it possible to defend any longer the grand fiction of the "Lewis overthrust"?"23  Clifford Burdick defended the same reading in the Creation Research Society Quarterly in 1969 and 1974.

What undid it.  The contact itself, then drilling and seismic surveys.  Geological Claims to Retire gives the detail.

The withdrawal.  Kurt Wise, a young-earth palaeontologist, at the first International Conference on Creationism in 1986:  "A close examination of the contact between the Cretaceous and Precambrian rocks leaves no doubt that the contact is a fault contact."48  Timothy Clarey, at the seventh conference in 2013:  "Authors who are critical of the geologic column should no longer use the denial of overthrusts as part of their argument."6  It is on no list.

Still used.  Only in hedged or archival form;  ICR's current geology accepts the thrust.18

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly.  Lag:  25 years to Wise, 52 to Clarey.  The 27 years between them are the gap between one scientist's correction and the field's acceptance of it.

11. Artefacts in coal, and human bones in old rock

At its peak.  A gold chain, an iron pot, a bell and other objects said to have fallen out of lumps of coal, and the Castenedolo and Calaveras human remains in Tertiary deposits, were offered from The Genesis Flood onward as relics of the pre-Flood world.

What undid it.  In every coal case the coal is gone, and the Castenedolo and Calaveras bones date to the last thousand years by radiocarbon.  Geological Claims to Retire has the detail.

The withdrawal.  On the list since at least 2001.  On the coal:  "Several artefacts, including gold objects, have been documented as having been found within coal, but in each case the coal is no longer associated with the artefact.  The evidence is therefore strictly anecdotal."11  On the bones:  "the Castenedolo skeletal material shows evidence of being an intrusive burial, i.e. a recent burial into older strata … The Calaveras skull was probably a hoax planted into a mine by miners."11

Still used.  Yes.  An October 2026 census found the hammer and coal finds on creation-museum pages, a Calaveras defence revised in June 2026, and ICR still serving a 2013 report on coal artefacts and a 1981 article citing "Castenedolo Man."18

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly.  Lag:  up to 40 years to the list, which is the first dated withdrawal found.

12. Living plesiosaurs and dinosaurs

At its peak.  In April 1977 the Japanese trawler Zuiyo-maru netted a rotting carcass off New Zealand that looked like a plesiosaur.  Creationists cited it for two decades as a living relic of the Flood world, and wider claims of living dinosaurs in the Congo and pterosaurs in New Guinea ran alongside it.  Living Dinosaur Claims gives the history.

What undid it.  The Japanese researchers' own tissue analysis.  Pierre Jerlström reviewed it in CMI's technical journal in 1998:  "The majority of the findings clearly indicated that the carcass was a decaying basking shark."49

The withdrawal.  The Zuiyo-maru was on the 2001 list.10  In February 2018 CMI went further and added living dinosaurs and plesiosaurs as a class:  "CMI now believes that enough years have passed, and photographs can now be taken with a smartphone, that dinosaurs have died out, and contrary claims require proof, not excuses."11

Still used.  Yes, by Answers in Genesis, which drops the Zuiyo-maru but still writes of marine reptiles that "some may still be living today in deep lakes or the deep sea."50

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly.  Lag:  21 years from the carcass to Jerlström, 41 to CMI's general withdrawal.  The two largest ministries now disagree.

13. The Ta Prohm "stegosaurus"

At its peak.  Answers in Genesis, 2007, on a twelfth-century carving at the Ta Prohm temple in Cambodia:  "That means that only a little over 800 years ago, some dinosaurs were likely still living in the region of Cambodia!"51

What undid it.  The "plates" match the foliage carved around the other animals in the same series, and the head, snout and legs do not fit a stegosaur.  Dinosaurs in Ancient Art and Text gives the detail.

The withdrawal.  Keaton Halley, CMI's Journal of Creation, July 2025:  "Therefore, it is recommended that creationists avoid using this example as evidence for dinosaurs living in recent centuries."52  It is not yet on CMI's list.

Still used.  Yes, and contested.  Answers in Genesis's 2025 evidence register files the carving under evidences that "Still Need More Confirmation/Verification," not among those to avoid, and says it "strongly resembles a stegosauroid dinosaur, if the plates on the back are actually on the animal and not a decorative flourish."50  David Woetzel disputed Halley in 2026.

Verdict.  Withdrawn rightly by CMI, and the newest entry.  Lag:  at least 19 years, from Don Patton's 2006 article on bible.ca, which says the carvers "saw a stegosaurus as they saw monkeys, buffalo and deer."53


Part 5: The count

# Argument First in creationist print First withdrawn by a creationist Lag, years On the don't-use list Still in circulation
1 Moon dust 1974, Morris (Earth version 1961) Snelling and Rush, 1993 19 Yes, "definitely not," by 2001 Effectively no
2 Shrinking Sun 1980, Hinderliter, Ackridge DeYoung and Rush, 1989 9 No No
3 Solar neutrinos by 1997, Snelling Newton, 2002 5 or more Yes, "definitely not," by 2005 No
4 Missing supernova remnants 1994, Davies Faulkner, 2017 23 No Yes: AiG, ICR and CMI pages; Coppedge 2023
6 Vapour canopy 1961, Whitcomb and Morris The list, "doubtful," 2001 40 Yes, "definitely not" since 2016 Yes: a study Bible, a museum site
7 Decaying light speed 1981, Setterfield Aardsma, 1988 7 Yes, "doubtful" Yes: Setterfield's site
8 Paluxy man tracks 1961, Whitcomb and Morris Neufeld, 1975; ICR, 1986 14 Yes, "doubtful" since 2024 Yes: bible.ca
9 Hakatai pollen 1966, Burdick Chadwick, 1981 15 No Yes: Creation Research Society site
10 Lewis Overthrust denial 1961, Whitcomb and Morris Wise, 1986 25 No Hedged only
11 Coal artefacts, old bones 1961, Whitcomb and Morris The list, by 2001 up to 40 Yes, by 2001 Yes: museum pages, two ICR pages
12 Living plesiosaurs 1977, the Zuiyo-maru Jerlström, 1998 21 Yes: carcass by 2001, class in 2018 Yes: AiG 2025
13 Ta Prohm "stegosaurus" 2006, Patton Halley, 2025 19 or more No Yes: AiG 2025

Entry 5, Faulkner's batch of 32 astronomy retirements, is left out of the table and the counts.  Lags run from first print to first withdrawal by a creationist, not to the list.9

How many.  Twelve arguments that creationist writers printed as science were later withdrawn by creationists.  Faulkner's 2019 audit adds 32 more in astronomy alone.

By whom.  Ten of the twelve first withdrawals were written by named creationist scientists in creationist journals or proceedings:  Snelling and Rush, DeYoung and Rush, Newton, Faulkner, Aardsma, Neufeld, Chadwick, Wise, Jerlström and Halley.  The other two, the canopy and the coal finds, were first withdrawn by the don't-use list itself.  None was first withdrawn by an organisation's statement of policy, and none by an outside critic, though outside critics had reached most of these answers first.

How long.  The twelve lags have a median of 19 years.  The quick ones, solar neutrinos and light speed, were settled by one decisive check that anyone could run.  The slow ones, the canopy and the coal finds, had no single decisive check:  the canopy was a model that could always be thinned, and a lost artefact cannot be re-examined.

How far the withdrawals travelled.  Seven of the twelve reached the don't-use list.  Its earliest surviving copy is from December 2001, so the list's lag behind its scientists can only be bounded:  up to 8 years on moon dust, 13 on light speed, and on the Paluxy tracks 15 from ICR's withdrawal or 26 from Neufeld's.  Five never reached it, including the supernova remnants, which Faulkner withdrew in Answers in Genesis's own journal.

How many still circulate.  Eight of twelve.  Four have effectively stopped:  moon dust, the shrinking Sun, solar neutrinos and the Lewis Overthrust denial.  The pattern in the eight is consistent.  Where an argument survives, it survives on a page nobody has revisited (Humphreys 2005 on supernova remnants), with an independent promoter the organisations do not control (Patton, Setterfield, the museums), or in print that cannot be recalled (a study Bible, a DVD).


Objections and responses

  1. "A movement that had to withdraw this many arguments has no science worth reading." Every active field withdraws claims. The test is whether the withdrawals came from inside, on evidence, and in print. Here they did, ten times out of twelve by name. The fairer criticism is the lag, and the gap between the journals and the websites, which this article measures rather than excuses.
  2. "These were fringe arguments, not the movement's science." Not so. Moon dust and the canopy were in Scientific Creationism; the Paluxy tracks and the Lewis Overthrust were in The Genesis Flood; the supernova-remnant argument is item 2 of a list that Answers in Genesis and ICR still serve. These were front-line arguments. The straw-man entries on CMI's list are a different category, and this register excludes them.
  3. "Withdrawing an argument is just retreating to an unfalsifiable position." Sometimes. Answers in Genesis's 2025 register says its belief that humans and dinosaurs coexisted rests "not because of the above or other evidences, but because Scripture says so."50 That is candid, and it means that losing the Paluxy tracks or Ta Prohm costs the belief nothing. But in most entries here the withdrawal gave up a claim about the physical world, such as a thin layer of dust on an old Moon, a Sun powered by contraction, or a once-faster light, and those were testable claims that failed their tests.
  4. "The moon-dust argument has been revived by new data, so its withdrawal was premature." CMI's 2014 note raised the possibility, and Jay Wile recomputed it in 2024. Wile's own answer was "Certainly not!"27 A tenfold higher influx still leaves Morris's 182 feet about a hundred times too large.25
  5. "The c-decay entry is only 'doubtful,' so it is still open." It is filed as doubtful, and the list's own reason concedes that the unanswered problems were raised by creationists. The Creation Research Society's own 2022 survey records "a general consensus" that the evidence for decay "is artifactual in nature."40 "Doubtful" is a filing decision, not a finding.
  6. "Moving Paluxy to 'doubtful' in 2024 shows new evidence for the tracks." None appeared. The entry's text did not change, and it still says research "has not been promising."17 The move is unexplained, and that is the most that can be said.
  7. "Critics never credit creationists for retracting." CMI makes this complaint in its preface, and it is fair.11 This article credits each retraction by name. It also counts the arguments still in use, because a retraction that does not reach the people repeating the argument has not finished its work.

Issues and unanswered questions

  1. Peak statements not read here. The 1977–78 creationist statements on the Zuiyo-maru, the early solar-neutrino and shrinking-Sun papers (Hinderliter 1980, Ackridge 1980, DeYoung and Rush 1989 itself), and Davies 1994 were not obtained; those entries rest on later creationist summaries of them, which are named.
  2. The list's earlier history. The Answers in Genesis page may predate its first archived copy of December 2001. Its first appearance, and whether the canopy or Paluxy tiers changed before then, are not known.
  3. Why Paluxy moved in 2024. A question to CMI would settle it.
  4. Lag dates are first-print dates found here. An earlier creationist use of any argument would lengthen its lag. The median would change little unless several did.
  5. The register is not exhaustive. Faulkner's 32 are handled as a batch, and arguments withdrawn quietly, by being dropped from later editions without comment, leave no withdrawal to quote. A comparison of the 1974 and 1985 editions of Scientific Creationism, and of ICR's Impact series against its later reprints, would find more.
  6. Circulation counts come from two web censuses, of astronomy arguments on 1 September 2026 and of geological arguments on 15 October 2026, made for sibling articles. Sermons, DVDs and classroom material are not searchable and are surely larger.

Verdict

The record shows a movement that corrects itself in its journals and struggles to correct itself anywhere else.  Twelve arguments printed as science were withdrawn by creationists, ten of them by named scientists in creationist venues, and each withdrawal examined here was right on the evidence.  The median withdrawal took 19 years.  Seven reached the movement's one list, which has never removed an entry and has re-filed two without saying why.  Eight of the twelve are still in circulation.  A skeptic who says creationists never retract is wrong, and a creationist who says the movement has dealt with its bad arguments is also wrong:  its scientists have dealt with many of them, and its organisations, museums and publishers are still catching up.

Sources


  1. 1.

    Snelling, Andrew A., and David E. Rush.  “Moon dust and the age of the solar system.”  Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal 7(1):2–42.  Apr 1993.  A review by two creationist researchers of every available measurement of the meteoritic dust falling on the Earth and Moon, from satellite detectors, lunar microcraters and the chemistry of the lunar soil.  It finds that most estimates for the Earth are 10,000 to 20,000 tons a year, against the 14,300,000 that creationists had used, and withdraws the argument. ↩

    1. 1a.

      Section Abstract:  “Unfortunately, attempted counter-responses by creationists have so far failed because of spurious arguments or faulty calculations. Thus, until new evidence is forthcoming, creationists should not continue to use the dust on the moon as evidence against an old age for the moon and the solar system.” ↩ ↩ ↩

    2. 1b.

      Section Acknowledgements:  “We, of course, take responsibility for the conclusions, which unfortunately are not as encouraging or complimentary for us young earth creationists as we would have liked.” ↩

    3. 1c.

      “This was confirmed by the Apollo astronauts, who only found up to a few inches of loose dust.”  “The regolith is usually several metres thick”.  “the meteoritic compositions recognised in the maria soils turn out to be surprisingly uniform at about 1.5%”. ↩

  2. 2.

    Neufeld, Berney.  “Dinosaur Tracks and Giant Men.”  Origins 2(2):64–76.  1975.  A field study by a Loma Linda University team, including Arthur Chadwick and Leonard Brand, published in the journal of the Seventh-day Adventist Geoscience Research Institute.  The team worked the Paluxy in 1970, sectioned purchased "human" slabs, and identified the riverbed trails as dinosaur tracks.

    1. 2a.

      Section Elongate Tracks, Series 1:  “Examination of the downriver end of the tracks (toward the lower edge of Figure 7) reveals that several of them show the print of a three-toed dinosaur.  It is not clear how the prints acquired their elongated shape, but it is obvious that the tracks cannot be both man and dinosaur.” ↩ ↩

  3. 3.

    Morris, John D.  “The Paluxy River Mystery.”  ICR Impact (151).  Jan 1, 1986.  The Institute for Creation Research's withdrawal of the Paluxy claim, written by the author of the 1980 book that had promoted it.  Paragraph numbers count from the first body paragraph.

    1. 3a.

      Paragraph 19:  “Even though it would now be improper for creationists to continue to use the Paluxy data as evidence against evolution, in the light of these questions, there is still much that is not known about the tracks and continued research is in order.  We stand committed to truth, and will gladly modify or abandon our previous interpretation of the Paluxy data as the facts dictate.”  The first clause is often quoted alone, which overstates the withdrawal. ↩ ↩

    2. 3b.

      Paragraph 16:  “Applying a reddish stain to a rock surface can easily be accomplished by the application of certain readily available chemical agents.”  One of six "mysterious points" listed just above the withdrawal.  Morris lists the possibility of tampering;  he does not assert it. ↩

  4. 4.

    Aardsma, Gerald E.  “Has the Speed of Light Decayed Recently?  Paper 1.”  Creation Research Society Quarterly 25(1):36–40.  Jun 1988.  A refit of the 1987 report's 163 measurements by the head of ICR's astro-geophysics department, weighting each point by its stated precision.  The decay disappears, and the theory's consequences for radiocarbon dating are shown to be unacceptable.

    1. 4a.

      Page 38:  “decay of c = 0.0000140 ± 0.0000596 km/s/year.” ↩

    2. 4b.

      Page 40:  “In the absence of positive, historical, experimental evidence for the decay of c, and in the face of the unacceptable implications of the theory, the hypothesis must be rejected.” ↩ ↩

  5. 5.

    Chadwick, Arthur V.  “Precambrian Pollen in the Grand Canyon:  A Reexamination.”  Origins.  2009.  A web version of a creationist biologist's 1981 study in Origins 8:7–12, the journal of the Seventh-day Adventist Geoscience Research Institute.  Chadwick went to the canyon with Burdick in 1971, re-sampled his localities on three further trips, and processed fifty samples under contamination controls.

    1. 5a.

      “No single example of an authentic pollen grain was obtained from any of these samples.” ↩

    2. 5b.

      A modern surface-pollen sample from near Burdick's collecting site has bisaccate conifer pollen 30 percent, juniper 12, Ephedra 16 and angiosperms 42.  Burdick's eighteen identifiable grains were bisaccates 37 percent, possible juniper 11, Ephedra 11, and angiosperms and unassignable 34. ↩

    3. 5c.

      “The simplest hypothesis to explain Burdick's data is that the pollen grains he reported in 1966 and in 1972 were modern contamination picked up either during collection and transportation or infiltrated into the sample itself prior to collection.” ↩ ↩

  6. 6.

    Clarey, Timothy L.  “South Fork and Heart Mountain Faults:  Examples of Catastrophic, Gravity-Driven "Overthrusts," Northwest Wyoming, USA.”  Proceedings of the Seventh International Conference on Creationism.  2013.  A conference paper by a young-earth geologist and former oil-industry exploration geologist, accepting that large thrusts are real and proposing that they slid catastrophically during the Flood.

    1. 6a.

      Section Introduction:  “Authors who are critical of the geologic column should no longer use the denial of overthrusts as part of their argument.” ↩ ↩

  7. 7.

    Faulkner, Danny R.  “Are Old Supernova Remnants Really Missing?  Re-Evaluating a Well-Known Young-Universe Argument.”  Answers Research Journal 10:245–258.  2017.  A young-earth astronomer's re-examination of Keith Davies's 1994 argument, listing seventeen remnants older than its cutoff and checking Davies's supporting quotations against their sources.

    1. 7a.

      Page 245, section Abstract:  “However, reexamination of the data shows that there indeed are old supernova remnants, and that stage three supernova remnants have been identified. Therefore, this may not be a good argument for recent origin, and I discourage recent creationists from using it.” ↩ ↩

    2. 7b.

      Page 254:  “note that the concern was not for missing old SNR, but with missing young SNRs.”  On the National Research Council's 1983 question "Where have all the remnants gone?", which Davies quoted. ↩

  8. 8.

    Kuban, Glen J.  “A Summary of the Taylor Site Evidence.”  Creation/Evolution 6(1):10–18.  1986.  The first journal account by the amateur researcher, raised a young-earth creationist, who mapped the Paluxy trails from 1980 and found the coloured toe marks in 1982.

    1. 8a.

      Section closing paragraphs:  “John Morris and representatives of Films for Christ met me in October and November of 1985 at the Paluxy sites where we viewed and discussed the evidence”.  “Also, Films for Christ has taken Footprints in Stone out of circulation (Taylor, 1985).”  Taylor 1985 is Paul Taylor's notice of 4 December 1985. ↩ ↩

  9. 9.

    Lag is counted from the earliest creationist publication of the argument found for this article to the first withdrawal of it in print by a creationist.  Where the first withdrawal is the don't-use list, its date is that of the earliest surviving copy, December 2001, so the lag is an upper bound.  The twelve values, in order, are 5 (solar neutrinos, counted from 1997, so a lower bound), 7, 9, 14 (Paluxy, to Neufeld 1975;  25 to ICR's 1986 withdrawal), 15, 19 (moon dust, counted from 1974;  32 from the Earth version of 1961), 19 (Ta Prohm, a lower bound), 21, 23, 25, 40 and 40.  The median is 19.  Moving any one value by ten years moves the median by at most two. ↩ ↩

  10. 10.

    Answers in Genesis.  “Arguments we think creationists should NOT use.”  Answers in Genesis, Questions and Answers.  Dec 15, 2001.  The earliest surviving copy of the list, then published by Answers in Genesis before the ministry's Australian arm, now Creation Ministries International, took it over.  It has the same two tiers as today and 33 entries. ↩

    1. 10a.

      “Which arguments should definitely not be used?”  “What arguments are doubtful, hence inadvisable to use?”  “The Japanese trawler Zuiyo Maru caught a dead plesiosaur near New Zealand”. ↩ ↩

    2. 10b.

      Section preface:  “It's also important to note that many of these arguments have never been promoted by AiG, and some have not been promoted by any major creationist organization and are instead straw men set up by anti-creationists.” ↩

    3. 10c.

      Section Which arguments should definitely not be used?:  “Unfortunately, there are talented creationist speakers with reasonably orthodox understandings of Genesis (e.g. Kent Hovind) who continue to promote some of the Wyatt and Baugh 'evidences' despite being approached on the matter.” ↩

    4. 10d.

      Section What arguments are doubtful, hence inadvisable to use?:  “Canopy theory. This is not a direct teaching of Scripture, so there is no place for dogmatism. Also, no suitable model has been developed that holds sufficient water; but some creationists suggest a partial canopy may have been present.” ↩

    5. 10e.

      Section Which arguments should definitely not be used?:  “Paluxy tracks prove that humans and dinosaurs co-existed.” ↩

  11. 11.

    Sarfati, Jonathan.  “Arguments we think creationists should NOT use.”  Creation Ministries International.  2026.  The movement's standing list of arguments to drop, in two tiers, "definitely not be used" and "doubtful, hence inadvisable to use," with 44 entries and a short reason for each.  First published at Answers in Genesis and dated on CMI's site from 7 February 2006, it has no change log;  it is cited here as served in September 2026. ↩ ↩

    1. 11a.

      Section preface:  “Persisting in using discredited arguments simply rebounds—it's the truth that sets us free (John 8:32), not error, and Christ is "the truth" (John 14:6)! Since there is so much good evidence for creation, there is no need to use any of the 'doubtful' arguments.” ↩ ↩

    2. 11b.

      Section Which arguments should definitely not be used?:  “Moon-Dust thickness proves a young moon.” ↩

    3. 11c.

      Section Which arguments should definitely not be used?:  “Therefore, consistent with the data then available, some creationists proposed that the sun was powered one-third by fusion and two-thirds by gravitational collapse. This would have limited the age to far less than 4.5 billion years.” ↩

    4. 11d.

      Section Which arguments should definitely not be used?:  “It would entail that we would be seeing light from heavenly bodies that don't really exist; and even light that seems to indicate precise sequences of events predictable by the laws of physics, but which never actually happened. This, in effect, suggests that God is a deceiver.” ↩

    5. 11e.

      Section What arguments are doubtful, hence inadvisable to use?:  “Although most of the evolutionary counter-arguments have been proven to be fallacious, there are still a number of problems, many of which were raised by creationists, which we believe have not been satisfactorily answered.” ↩

    6. 11f.

      Section What arguments are doubtful, hence inadvisable to use?:  “Several artefacts, including gold objects, have been documented as having been found within coal, but in each case the coal is no longer associated with the artefact. The evidence is therefore strictly anecdotal”. ↩

    7. 11g.

      Section Which arguments should definitely not be used?:  “These are not sound examples—the Castenedolo skeletal material shows evidence of being an intrusive burial, i.e. a recent burial into older strata, since all the fossils apart from the human ones had time to be impregnated with salt. The Calaveras skull was probably a hoax planted into a mine by miners.” ↩

    8. 11h.

      Section What arguments are doubtful, hence inadvisable to use?:  “CMI now believes that enough years have passed, and photographs can now be taken with a smartphone, that dinosaurs have died out, and contrary claims require proof, not excuses.”  “Thus CMI's position is no longer "wait and see"”. ↩ ↩

  12. 12.

    A search of the Institute for Creation Research's website on 1 September 2026, for a list of arguments to avoid under three wordings, found none.  The search was made for Astronomy Arguments to Retire. ↩ ↩

  13. 13.

    Lisle, Jason.  “Ethical Science.”  Acts & Facts, Institute for Creation Research.  Jun 30, 2017.  A short magazine article by an astrophysicist, then ICR's director of physical sciences, explaining why ICR declines to use some creationist arguments:  some are false, and others are not supported well enough to teach as fact.

    1. 13a.

      “The evidence in question may be plausible but insufficiently supported at present. If we are going to tell someone what to believe, it's not good enough to simply suspect or suppose that the premise in question is true. We must know that it is true.” ↩ ↩

  14. 14.

    Sarfati, Jonathan.  “Arguments we think creationists should NOT use.”  Creation Ministries International.  Apr 15, 2016.  The list as it stood in April 2016, the last copy found with the canopy among the doubtful arguments.  Mirror:  Archive.org

    1. 14a.

      Section What arguments are doubtful, hence inadvisable to use?:  “Also, no suitable model has been developed that holds sufficient water; but some creationists suggest a partial canopy may have been present.” ↩ ↩

  15. 15.

    Sarfati, Jonathan.  “Arguments we think creationists should NOT use.”  Creation Ministries International.  Oct 5, 2016.  The list as it stood in October 2016, the first copy found with the canopy moved up among the arguments that should definitely not be used.  Mirror:  Archive.org

    1. 15a.

      Section Which arguments should definitely not be used?:  “Also, no suitable model has been developed that holds sufficient water. So all creationist geologists prefer a different model.” ↩ ↩ ↩

  16. 16.

    Sarfati, Jonathan.  “Arguments we think creationists should NOT use.”  Creation Ministries International.  Mar 4, 2024.  The list as it stood in March 2024, the last copy found with the Paluxy tracks among the arguments that should definitely not be used.  Mirror:  Archive.org

    1. 16a.

      Section Which arguments should definitely not be used?:  “Paluxy tracks prove that humans and dinosaurs co-existed.” ↩ ↩

  17. 17.

    Sarfati, Jonathan.  “Arguments we think creationists should NOT use.”  Creation Ministries International.  May 14, 2024.  The list as it stood in May 2024, the first copy found with the Paluxy tracks moved down among the doubtful arguments, its text unchanged.  Mirror:  Archive.org

    1. 17a.

      Section What arguments are doubtful, hence inadvisable to use?:  “Paluxy tracks prove that humans and dinosaurs co-existed.”  “Research to date has not been promising about the tracks, however”. ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩

  18. 18.

    Two censuses of young-earth websites made for sibling articles, each searching 329 indexed young-earth domains and dating every page from the page itself:  astronomy arguments on 1 September 2026, reported in Astronomy Arguments to Retire, Part 8, and geological claims on 15 October 2026, reported in Geological Claims to Retire, Part 8.  The first found no live use of moon dust, the shrinking Sun or solar neutrinos, two post-retraction uses of missing supernova remnants (David Coppedge, Creation-Evolution Headlines, 6 September 2023;  Charles Jackson, The Creation Club, 26 June 2022), and the canopy presented at length on the Genesis Park site.  The second found the hammer and coal finds on Creation Evidence Museum and Genesis Park pages, a Calaveras defence revised in June 2026, ICR still serving a 2013 coal-artefact report and Gary Parker's 1981 "Origin of Mankind," and the Lewis Overthrust denial only in hedged or archival form, with ICR's current geology accepting the thrust. ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩ ↩

  19. 19.

    Answers in Genesis.  “Arguments to Avoid.”  Answers in Genesis.  n.d.  Answers in Genesis's current topic page of articles on arguments to drop, one argument per article, with no tiers and no dates. ↩

  20. 20.

    Creation Ministries International.  “Maintaining Creationist Integrity:  A response to Kent Hovind.”  creation.com.  Oct 11, 2002.  Answers in Genesis's point-by-point reply to Kent Hovind's 12 August 2002 defence of several entries on the list, including coal artefacts and Carl Baugh's evidences;  updated in 2002 and 2006, with a note added in November 2009. ↩

    1. 20a.

      Section Note added November 2009:  “The website of Creation Science Evangelism (CSE) has been completely revamped and it no longer espouses a number of the "don't use arguments" defended by Kent Hovind in 2002.”  “Also, we continue to get queries about these matters because there are lots of "free-to-copy" DVDs of Kent Hovind's old talks circulating widely around the world and it will be some time before they disappear from circulation.” ↩

  21. 21.

    The comparison used copies of the page archived by the Internet Archive on 15 December 2001 and in 2005 (Answers in Genesis), and on 7 January 2012, 15 April 2016, 5 October 2016, 4 July 2017, 31 January 2018, June 2018, 11 June 2022, 31 May 2023, 26 November 2023, 4 March 2024, 14 May 2024 and 17 August 2024 (CMI), with the live page as served on 1 September and 15 October 2026.  In each copy the position of every tracked entry was read against the two tier headings.  The 33 entries of 2001 were each searched for in the 2026 page by a key phrase;  all 33 are present. ↩ ↩

  22. 22.

    Answers in Genesis.  “Arguments we think creationists should NOT use.”  Answers in Genesis, Questions and Answers.  2005.  The 2005 state of the same list, the first copy found with the solar-neutrino entry.

    1. 22a.

      Section Which arguments should definitely not be used?:  “Therefore creationists should no longer invoke the missing neutrino problem to deny that fusion is the primary source of energy for the sun. So it cannot be used as a young-age indicator—nor an old-age indicator for that matter.” ↩ ↩

  23. 23.

    Whitcomb, John C., and Henry M. Morris.  The Genesis Flood:  The Biblical Record and Its Scientific Implications.  Presbyterian and Reformed.  1961.  The book that launched the modern young-earth movement, by a theologian and a hydraulic engineer.  It is the first major creationist source for several entries here:  the meteoritic dust figure, the canopy, the Paluxy tracks, the coal artefacts and the denial of the Lewis Overthrust.

    1. 23a.

      Page 379:  “Pettersson calculated that the total quantity of dust of meteor origin in the atmosphere, up to a height of 60 miles, amounts to 28,600,000 tons. . .. half the total—14,300,000 tons of such dust—settles to earth each year”.  The authors are quoting Isaac Asimov's 1959 Science Digest article on Pettersson. ↩

    2. 23b.

      Page 191:  “In the light of such physical evidence as cited above, how is it possible to defend any longer the grand fiction of the "Lewis overthrust"? There ought to be no reasonable doubt that the limestones were actually deposited after the shales on which they lie and, therefore, that they are younger in geologic age!” ↩

  24. 24.

    Scientific Creationism.  Creation-Life Publishers, San Diego.  Edited by Henry M. Morris.  1974.  The Institute for Creation Research's textbook for schools, edited by its founder, in a general edition.  It gathered the movement's young-age arguments of the time, including meteoritic dust and the vapour canopy.

    1. 24a.

      Page 152:  “this seems to mean that there should have accumulated during the 5-billion-year age of the earth, a layer of meteoritic dust approximately 182 feet thick all over the world! There is not the slightest sign of such a dust layer anywhere of course. On the moon's surface it should be at least as thick, but the astronauts found no sign of it”. ↩

    2. 24b.

      Page 125:  “The favorable climate, aided by the highly effective radiation filter provided by the vapor canopy, would favor abundant plant and animal life, longevity of animal life, and growth of large-sized animal organisms.” ↩

  25. 25.

    Morris's arithmetic, with his own density of 140 pounds per cubic foot, gives 182 feet for an influx of 14 million tons a year.  The depth scales directly with the influx.  At Snelling and Rush's 10,000 to 20,000 tons a year the same arithmetic gives 182 × 15,000 / 14,300,000 ≈ 0.19 feet, about 2.3 inches, within a range of roughly 1.5 to 3 inches.  A tenfold higher influx, 150,000 tons a year, gives about 1.9 feet, so Morris's figure would still be about 95 times too large.  The figures are this article's, for scale, applying Morris's own method to the measured input. ↩ ↩

  26. 26.

    Creation Ministries International.  “Editorial update appended to Snelling and Rush 1993.”  creation.com.  Jul 2014.  A note added in July 2014 to the 1993 withdrawal, on new NASA data showing a dust influx about ten times higher than earlier measurements.

    1. 26a.

      “New NASA data has turned up that is said to have been on 'long-lost' tapes, and shows a dust influx rate some ten times that of previous measurements.  At face value it seems to raise the possibility of at least a partial revival of the moon dust argument.  Given the very careful and detailed creationist analyses which led to its abandonment in the first place… any reassessment would need to be similarly thorough and careful.” ↩

  27. 27.

    Wile, Jay L.  “Moon Dust and the Age of the Solar System in the 21st Century.”  The Creation Club.  Dec 9, 2024.  A creationist chemist's repost of his 2014 article, filed under the site's "Young Age Evidence" category, which recomputes the old dust inference from a newer measurement and then rejects reviving the argument.

    1. 27a.

      “So should creationists start using the moon dust argument again? Certainly not!” ↩ ↩

  28. 28.

    Faulkner, Danny R.  “An Evaluation of Astronomical Young-Age Determination Methods 2:  Solar, Stellar, Galactic, and Extragalactic.”  Answers Research Journal 12:329–349.  2019.  The second of two papers in which a young-earth astronomer with a PhD, working for Answers in Genesis, grades the astronomical arguments for a young universe that creationists have used, and recommends dropping those that fail.

    1. 28a.

      Page 330:  “Understandably, creationists quickly took note of this report, and used it to argue that the sun may be powered by Kelvin-Helmholtz contraction rather than nuclear fusion.”  “Therefore, many creationists viewed the shrinking sun as a sort of silver bullet that would falsify the evolutionary timescale.”  “Soon several papers were published refuting the shrinking sun with additional historical data.”  “DeYoung and Rush concluded that the evidence was ambiguous enough that one could not be certain whether the sun is powered by gravitational contraction, nuclear fusion, or a combination of both, and hence the sun is not a good age indicator on this front.” ↩ ↩ ↩

    2. 28b.

      Page 347, section Conclusion:  “I discourage the use of those young-age indicators that do not survive scrutiny.” ↩

  29. 29.

    Snelling, Andrew A.  “Solar Neutrinos:  The Critical Shortfall Still Elusive.”  Journal of Creation 11(3):253–254.  1997.  A short creationist report arguing that the shortfall of solar neutrinos was still unexplained, the last full statement of the argument before the Sudbury results.  Answers in Genesis's copy now carries a retraction inside its abstract. ↩

    1. 29a.

      Section Abstract:  “while the argument in this paper was cogent given the information then available, subsequent information has superseded it, meaning that the shortfall problem seems to have been solved. Therefore creationists should no longer use this as an 'age' argument”. ↩

  30. 30.

    Humphreys, D. Russell.  “Evidence for a Young World.”  Acts & Facts 34(6).  Jun 1, 2005.  A list of fourteen processes that a creationist physicist argues set maximum ages far below billions of years, written as ICR's Impact No. 384 and reprinted by Answers in Genesis, which serves it in five further languages.  Mirror:  Answersingenesis.org

    1. 30a.

      Section Item 2:  “According to astronomical observations, galaxies like our own experience about one supernova (a violently-exploding star) every 25 years. The gas and dust remnants from such explosions (like the Crab Nebula) expand outward rapidly and should remain visible for over a million years. Yet the nearby parts of our galaxy in which we could observe such gas and dust shells contain only about 200 supernova remnants. That number is consistent with only about 7,000 years worth of supernovas.”  Both the ICR and the Answers in Genesis copies are served without a correction. ↩ ↩

  31. 31.

    Faulkner's Part 1 (Answers Research Journal 12:255–274, the solar system) and Part 2 (12:329–349, the Sun, stars and galaxies) together grade 48 arguments:  32 retired, 14 kept and 2 left undecided.  The tally and the list of retirements are worked through in Astronomy Arguments to Retire. ↩

  32. 32.

    Answers in Genesis.  “Arguments to Avoid.”  Answers in Genesis.  n.d.  The same topic page, checked against each of Faulkner's 32 astronomy retirements in September 2026;  none appears on it. ↩

  33. 33.

    Dillow, Joseph C.  The Waters Above:  Earth's Pre-Flood Vapor Canopy.  Moody Press.  1981.  The full statement of the vapour canopy model, with 12.19 metres (40 feet) of precipitable water, about 2.18 atmospheres.  Dillow's own cloudless calculation made the surface far too hot, and he offset it with a tuned cloud deck. ↩

  34. 34.

    Rush, David E., and Larry Vardiman.  “Pre-Flood Vapor Canopy Radiative Temperature Profiles.”  Proceedings of the Second International Conference on Creationism 2:231–246.  Creation Science Fellowship, Pittsburgh.  1990.  A radiation model of a water-vapour canopy by two ICR-associated scientists, run with a standard atmospheric radiance code, LOWTRAN 7, for canopies of several sizes.  Even small canopies made the surface too hot to live on.

    1. 34a.

      Page 237:  “In conclusion, only 50 mb of water vapor added above the present atmosphere would raise the surface temperature as determined by a radiation balance from 320 K to 409 K.”  Page 236 gives the scale:  50 mb is 20 inches, about half a metre, of precipitable water. ↩

    2. 34b.

      Page 244:  “The chief reason why we cannot allow thick clouds is a Biblical one: heavenly objects need to be visible, at least during part of the diurnal cycle.” ↩

  35. 35.

    Vardiman, Larry, and Karen Bousselot.  “Sensitivity Studies on Vapor Canopy Temperature Profiles.”  Proceedings of the Fourth International Conference on Creationism, 607–618.  1998.  A sensitivity study that varies five parameters of a canopy model to find how much water a canopy could hold at a livable surface temperature.

    1. 35a.

      Page 616, section Conclusions:  “If all five parameters were introduced into the model simultaneously such that the surface temperature was minimized, it is estimated that the water content of the canopy could possibly be raised to as much as 1.0 meter. This is less than 10% of the water content suggested by Dillow (1982). Unfortunately, this amount of water in a canopy would not contribute significantly to the waters of the Genesis Flood or produce significant pressure and density effects.” ↩

  36. 36.

    Patterson, Roger.  “Did the Pre-Flood World Have a Vapor Canopy?”  Answers in Depth 21.  Answers in Genesis.  Mar 10, 2026.  Answers in Genesis's current position on the canopy, working through the biblical arguments and then the physics, with Dillow's own figures checked, and concluding that creationists should drop the model.

    1. 36a.

      “The canopy is not clearly described in the text, and it provides more scientific problems than it solves. As scientists and theologians, we would do more for the biblical creationist movement to ring the death bell of the canopy and move on to other endeavors.” ↩

    2. 36b.

      “The same ideas were also made very popular in The MacArthur Study Bible, one of the most widely distributed study Bibles available in multiple translations and languages. The explanatory benefits of the canopy are mentioned in the notes for Genesis 1:7, 7:4, 11 and 2 Peter 3:5.” ↩

  37. 37.

    Norman, Trevor, and Barry Setterfield.  “The Atomic Constants, Light, and Time.”  Invited Research Report prepared for Lambert T. Dolphin, SRI International;  Flinders University of South Australia, School of Mathematical Sciences.  Aug 1987.  The main statement of the decaying-light-speed argument:  163 measurements of the speed of light by 16 methods over 300 years, plus 475 measurements of eleven other atomic quantities, fitted to argue for a non-linear decline.

    1. 37a.

      Section Abstract:  “A systematic, non-linear decay trend is revealed by 163 measurements of c in dynamical time by 16 methods over 300 years.” ↩

  38. 38.

    Humphreys, D. Russell.  “Has the Speed of Light Decayed Recently?  Paper 2.”  Creation Research Society Quarterly 25(1):40–45.  Jun 1988.  A review of the 1987 report by a Sandia National Laboratories physicist who had corresponded with Setterfield since 1985 and favoured a past change in light speed.  It sets four minimum standards for the analysis, none of which the report met.

    1. 38a.

      Page 45:  “The problem with this book is that it is misleading.”  “Also the reader should know that I actually favor the possibility that c has decayed sometime in the past, so that if anything I should welcome the book. But the underlying facts just do not support the hypothesis.” ↩

  39. 39.

    Chaffin, Eugene F.  “A Determination of the Speed of Light in the Seventeenth Century.”  Creation Research Society Quarterly 29(3):115–119.  Dec 1992.  A creationist physicist's computer reanalysis of the 1670s eclipse timings of Jupiter's moon Io, with his own 1988–1991 observations as a control.  It retracts his own 1990 paper and finds no change in the speed of light.

    1. 39a.

      Page 118:  “The results presented here show that the 2.6% was not real, and that any real effect that might be present must be smaller than about 1%, at most.” ↩

  40. 40.

    Repp, Andrew.  “Fifty-Seven Years of Creation Astronomy, Part II:  Issues and Advances.”  Creation Research Society Quarterly 59:81–91.  2022.  A survey of creationist astronomy from 1964 to 2021 by a writer inside the field, recording which proposals the field has kept and which it has dropped.

    1. 40a.

      Page 85:  “Others, most notably Setterfield (Norman and Setterfield, 1987), proposed a decay extending to modern times, discernable by careful analysis of historical measurements.  However, a general consensus has emerged (see e.g., Chaffin, 1992) that the purported evidence for such decay is artifactual in nature.” ↩ ↩

  41. 41.

    Setterfield, Barry.  Modifications to Light-Speed Model.  Oct 2, 2001.  A page on Setterfield's own site, updated in February 2012, listing the changes his 1987 report now needs:  the mechanism moves to a rising zero-point energy, and the redshift treatment of 1987 is superseded.

    1. 41a.

      “However, evidence is accumulating that a slight rise in c has occurred.  This matter is the subject of ongoing investigation.” ↩

  42. 42.

    Morris, John D.  “The Paluxy River Tracks.”  ICR Impact (35).  May 1976.  The Institute for Creation Research's first statement of the claim, by the man who later wrote the 1980 book on the tracks and the 1986 withdrawal.

    1. 42a.

      Section opening paragraphs:  “One of the most shattering pieces of evidence comes from the Paluxy River basin in central Texas, near the town of Glen Rose, where fossilized tracks of man and dinosaur appear together.” ↩

  43. 43.

    Morris, John D.  “Paluxy River:  The Tale of the Trails.”  Acts & Facts 42(5):12–14.  Apr 30, 2013.  ICR's current statement on the tracks, by its president, twenty-seven years after the withdrawal.

    1. 43a.

      Section Project History:  “in 1984 I concluded we had most likely made an error.  It was erroneous to claim the human-like prints were probably human.” ↩

    2. 43b.

      Section Project History:  “Our chemical analysis confirmed that the colored areas contained more iron inside than outside, and we could find no evidence that any foreign chemical had been added.” ↩

  44. 44.

    bible.ca.  “The Alvis Delk Track:  New fossil human with dinosaur footprint.”  bible.ca.  n.d.  Retrieved Oct 4, 2026.  An unsigned page on a creationist site whose track section carries Don Patton's material.  It promotes a loose slab found in 2008 as a human print under a dinosaur print.

    1. 44a.

      Section opening paragraphs:  “He flipped over the rock and saw an excellent dinosaur track, so he took it home where it sat in his living room for years, with hundreds of other fossils.” ↩

  45. 45.

    Walker, Tas.  “The Alvis Delk human-dino footprints artefact.”  creation.com.  Jan 5, 2019.  A CMI geologist's answer to a reader about the Delk slab.

    1. 45a.

      Section body:  “The questions these problems raise can't be answered because the contextual evidence of the rock's provenance no longer exists.  This means that the artefact has no real apologetic value.” ↩

  46. 46.

    Burdick, Clifford L.  “Microflora of the Grand Canyon.”  Creation Research Society Quarterly 3(1):38–50.  May 1966.  A creationist consulting geologist's report of spores and pollen of conifers and flowering plants extracted from four Grand Canyon shales, from the Permian Supai down to the Precambrian Hakatai, collected on trips with Harold Slusher.  The founding statement of the Precambrian-pollen claim.

    1. 46a.

      Page 49:  “For those who insist on a time significance to the various formations, discovery of both Gymnosperm and Angiosperm pollen grains in the Cambrian and Pre-Cambrian does indeed present problems. A parallel situation in the animal kingdom would be location of mammals in the Pre-Cambrian. I am inclined to consider retention of the idea of time significance more a matter of faith than science.” ↩

    2. 46b.

      Pages 49–50, section Summary:  “Finding of spores of plants at least closely related to pines in the Pre-Cambrian makes it extremely difficult to visualize any evolutionary development of these specialized plants. The undoubted occurance of pollen of flowering plants is even more difficult to explain in usually accepted evolutionary concepts.”  The spelling "occurance" is Burdick's. ↩

  47. 47.

    Froede, Carl R. Jr.  “Precambrian Plant Fossils and the Hakatai Shale Controversy.”  Creation Research Society.  n.d.  A page on the Creation Research Society's website defending the Hakatai plant fossils.  Its evidence for life in Precambrian rock is stromatolites, bacterial microfossils and organic carbon, none of which is a vascular plant or pollen. ↩

  48. 48.

    Wise, Kurt P.  “The Way Geologists Date!”  Proceedings of the First International Conference on Creationism 1:135–138.  1986.  A young-earth palaeontologist telling fellow creationists that their usual attacks on geological dating are wrong, with the Lewis Overthrust as a worked example.

    1. 48a.

      Page 136:  “A close examination of the contact between the Cretaceous and Precambrian rocks leaves no doubt that the contact is a fault contact.” ↩

  49. 49.

    Jerlström, Pierre.  “Live plesiosaurs:  weighing the evidence.”  CEN Technical Journal 12(3):339–346.  Nov 1998.  A review in CMI's technical journal of the anatomical and biochemical evidence on the Zuiyo-maru carcass, concluding that it was a basking shark while leaving open the survival of plesiosaurs elsewhere.

    1. 49a.

      Section The scientific report:  “The majority of the findings clearly indicated that the carcass was a decaying basking shark.” ↩

  50. 50.

    Lacey, Troy.  “Humans with Dinosaurs Evidence.”  Answers in Genesis.  Aug 30, 2025.  Answers in Genesis's graded register of evidence offered for people living with dinosaurs, in tiers from "Most Reliable Evidences" to "Evidences to Avoid."  It is the organisation's own record of which cases it still uses.

    1. 50a.

      Section Scripture Is Our Authority!  But Evidences Can Corroborate Scripture:  “They may have lived even later (and some may still be living today in deep lakes or the deep sea).” ↩

    2. 50b.

      Section Scripture Is Our Authority!  But Evidences Can Corroborate Scripture:  “We must reiterate that we believe man lived with dinosaurs, pterosaurs, and marine reptiles, not because of the above or other evidences, but because Scripture says so.” ↩

    3. 50c.

      Section Still Need More Confirmation/Verification:  “One of the carvings strongly resembles a stegosauroid dinosaur, if the plates on the back are actually on the animal and not a decorative flourish.” ↩

  51. 51.

    Cole, Kenneth E.  “Evidence of Dinosaurs at Angkor.”  Answers in Genesis.  Jan 15, 2007.  Answers in Genesis's first article on the Ta Prohm carving, a traveller's account.

    1. 51a.

      “That means that only a little over 800 years ago, some dinosaurs were likely still living in the region of Cambodia!”  The page now carries an editor's note that "there are some who question the authenticity of this relief." ↩

  52. 52.

    Halley, Keaton.  “Problems mounting for the Ta Prohm 'stegosaur' carving.”  Journal of Creation 39(2):119–126.  Jul 2025.  A creationist review of the carving's anatomy and of the creationist literature on it, which favours an Asian rhinoceros and recommends dropping the example.

    1. 52a.

      “Therefore, it is recommended that creationists avoid using this example as evidence for dinosaurs living in recent centuries.” ↩

  53. 53.

    Patton, Don.  “Dinosaurs in an Ancient Cambodian Temple.”  bible.ca.  2006.  An early creationist web article presenting the Ta Prohm carving as a stegosaur seen alive.

    1. 53a.

      “The obvious indication is that the stone carvers of the tenth century saw a stegosaurus as they saw monkeys, buffalo and deer.” ↩