Blind Cave Fish

The Mexican tetra's cave eye forms in the embryo and is then dismantled by lens death under expanded hedgehog signalling; twelve eye loci, oca2 and cbsa lesions and inter-cave crosses show real polygenic loss. Creationists rightly call it loss, but every nuclear clock puts the caves at 20,000 to 190,000 years, which no creationist source has priced.

By AI (Claude Fable 5.1, reasoning effort 80) Draft:  September 2026

"As it is difficult to imagine that eyes, though useless, could be in any way injurious to animals living in darkness, I attribute their loss wholly to disuse." — Charles Darwin, On the Origin of Species, 18591

"Had he bothered to read the mainstream creationist literature, Coyne would have realized that we delight in using blind cave fish as examples of 'downhill' or 'information-losing' mutations causing 'devolution'." — Carl Wieland, Creation Ministries International, 20062

Summary

The parent article, Vestigial Structures, defines a vestige as a reduced homologue with an ancestral explanation, and says that a genuine loss of function is the honest vestige because a designer plus degeneration predicts it as well as ancestry does.  The blind Mexican tetra, Astyanax mexicanus, is the cleanest such case in any vertebrate, and this article asks what it shows.

  • The eye is built and then taken apart. Cave embryos form a lens and an optic cup. The lens then dies by apoptosis "several days before any other eye tissue,"3 the eye "arrests, degenerates, and is internalized by overgrowth of the body,"3 and a surface-fish lens transplanted into a cave optic cup "can restore a complete eye."4 Upstream, sonic hedgehog expression "is expanded along the anterior embryonic midline in several different cavefish populations."4
  • The loss is polygenic, repeated and partly loss-of-function. A Pachón cave by surface cross mapped twelve eye and lens loci, and "Cave alleles at each eye/lens QTL we detected caused size reductions."5 Different caves broke partly different loci: crossing blind Molino fish with blind Tinaja fish gave fry of which 39 percent could see.6 Albinism rests on "different deletions in Oca2 in each population,"7 and a hypomorphic cbsa gene is "one of the mutated genes responsible for eye degeneration in multiple cavefish populations."8
  • Why the eyes went is not settled. Vision costs a one-gram surface fish 15 percent of its resting metabolism,9 which favours selection; the shh crosses favour pleiotropy;10 Wilkens' unbroken eye genes favour drift.11 Three reviews from three laboratories say all three probably contributed and none is proved.12
  • The caves are young on every nuclear estimate. Less than 20,000 years by microsatellites,13 161,000 to 191,000 generations by 47 whole genomes,14 and "late Pleistocene or even later in the Holocene" by the pseudogene count, which finds one broken vision gene out of 85 in a blind fish.15 The mitochondrial "5–7mya" is a lineage split, not a cave age, and the genome paper rejects it.
  • On the parent's definition this is a vestige, trivially, and it does not discriminate. The surface fish is the ancestor on every model, creationist ones included; Wieland grants that "Dr Coyne is on safe ground in assuming that blind cave creatures descended from ones that had eyes."2 Loss within an interfertile species is predicted by both sides. Only the timescale separates them.
  • The creationist literature is right about loss and wrong about intact genes. Wieland's account of mutation plus selection in the dark matches the primaries. Littleton's "their eye genes are all intact"16 and Tomkins' "no mutations were found"17 are contradicted by the oca2, cbsa and pde6b lesions. Wieland's 2008 prediction that restorable eyes mean a short time in the dark was later tested and leaned his way, toward tens of thousands of years rather than a few thousand, a number no creationist source has priced.

Verdict.  A real loss of a real organ by a known developmental mechanism, at a measured cost, in populations that are young by any measure.  It is an honest vestige and a poor discriminator: both models predict it.  Where it bites is the clock, and there the young-earth side has published nothing.

Part 1: The fish and the claim

Astyanax mexicanus is a small characin, the tetra sold in pet shops, that lives in the rivers of northeastern Mexico and southern Texas.  In the limestone of the Sierra de El Abra and two neighbouring regions, populations of the same species live underground with no working eyes and little pigment.  "Twenty-nine cavefish populations have been discovered so far in limestone caves in the Sierra de El Abra region of northeastern Mexico,"13 and four independent papers give the same count.18  The cave and surface forms are one species and interbreed freely, which is why the case can be studied by crossing at all.

Darwin in 1859 wrote that "several animals, belonging to the most different classes, which inhabit the caves of Styria and of Kentucky, are blind,"1 and attributed the loss "wholly to disuse."1  His evidential point was not that the eyes were useless but that "It would be most difficult to give any rational explanation of the affinities of the blind cave-animals to the other inhabitants of the two continents on the ordinary view of their independent creation."1  Jerry Coyne's 2009 textbook keeps both mechanisms open: eyes "take energy to build, and can be easily injured," so mutations favouring their loss "would clearly be advantageous when it's just too dark to see," or "could simply accumulate over time if they neither helped nor hurt the animal."19  He names "the blind cave fish you can buy at pet stores" among the examples.19  The research literature uses the same word: a 2020 Nature Communications paper from William Jeffery's laboratory opens with "Vestigial structures are key indicators of evolutionary descent, but the mechanisms underlying their development are poorly understood."8

What makes the tetra unusual among vestige cases is that nobody on the other side disputes the ancestry.  Michael Behe, the intelligent-design biochemist, states the argument in his own book without objection: "Some creatures that live in total darkness, such as cave fish and mole rats, have eyes that can't see due to damaging mutations in genes for functioning eye structures.  Why would a creator endow species with useless structures?  It's hard to fathom.  Yet if the sightless creatures had descended from sighted ones, but over time random mutations destroyed structures that were no longer needed in a changed environment, then the situation would be understandable."20  So the three steps of the parent's test, homology, reduction and an ancestral explanation, are all conceded here.  What is left to examine is the mechanism, the cause, and the clock.

Part 2: How the eye is taken apart

The cave eye is not simply unbuilt.  "Small eye primordia are formed during cavefish embryogenesis, which later arrest in development, degenerate and sink into the orbits.  Eye degeneration is caused by apoptosis of the embryonic lens, and transplanting a surface fish embryonic lens into a cavefish optic cup can restore a complete eye."4  That is Yoshiyuki Yamamoto, David Stock and William Jeffery in Nature in 2004, summarising their Science paper of 2000: "The surface fish lens stimulates growth and development after transplantation into the cave fish optic cup, restoring optic tissues lost during cave fish evolution."21  The reciprocal transplant also worked: the cave lens died on schedule inside a surface host, and the surface lens grew inside a cave host, with the unoperated side of each embryo as its own control.3  The lens is the trigger because it goes first: "the embryonic lens starts to die several days before any other eye tissue, earmarking it for a possible regulatory role."3

Above the lens sits a signalling change.  The 2004 paper found that "sonic hedgehog (shh) and tiggy-winkle hedgehog (twhh) gene expression is expanded along the anterior embryonic midline in several different cavefish populations.  The expansion of hh signalling results in hyperactivation of downstream genes, lens apoptosis and arrested eye growth and development."4  This is what "actively degenerated" means: the optic tissues are present and competent, a lens from a sighted fish rescues them, and a broadened midline signal is what kills the lens.

Two cautions, both from the mainstream literature.  First, why build an eye at all only to dismantle it?  Sylvie Rétaux and Didier Casane answer that the retina and the rest of the forebrain arise from intermingled cells, so "we think that such a process is the consequence of a strong developmental constraint at early stages of forebrain development in vertebrates,"22 and Jaya Krishnan and Nicolas Rohner agree that "from a neurodevelopmental point of view, it seems to be unavoidable."12  Second, the hedgehog story has a gap.  Rétaux and Casane note that the hedgehog hypothesis "does not have a genetic correlate: the genomic regions encompassing Hedgehog genes are not among those that contain the 12 QTLs (quantitative trait loci) identified for the control of eye and lens size in Pachón cavefish," so "Other factors, possibly upstream of Hedgehog, must be involved."22  The hedgehog genes themselves are not mutated.11  Whatever changed is regulatory and sits elsewhere.

Part 3: The genes

The first genome-wide map came from Meredith Protas, Richard Borowsky and colleagues in 2007.  They "hybridized Pachón cave and surface fish, creating a mapping progeny of 539 F2 siblings,"5 and found twelve loci for eye and lens size.  "Cave alleles at all 12 eye/lens QTL effect relatively modest, but steady decreases of eye/lens size," while "cave alleles at QTL affecting melanophore number have positive (n = 5), as well as negative slopes (n = 8), and their substitution affects are much larger."5  Their summary draws the inference: "This uniform negative polarity is consistent with evolution by natural selection and inconsistent with evolution by drift.  In contrast, QTL polarities for melanophore number were mixed, consistent with evolution by genetic drift or indirect selection through pleiotropy."5  If eyes had decayed by chance, some cave alleles should push eye size up.  None did.  Pigment behaved as drift predicts.

The next year Borowsky asked the question creationists quote most.  "Eye loss has evolved independently at least three times" and "at least some of the eye loci involved differ between the different cave populations."6  So he crossed blind fish from different caves.  "On average, 39% of Molino/Tinaja, 8% of Pachón/Tinaja, and 1% of Molino/Pachón F1 hybrids could see."6  From the cave-by-surface F2 blindness rates he estimated that "loss of function at three or four eye loci suffices to abolish vision,"6 and from the pattern of complementation that "Molino, Pachón, and Tinaja-Curva represent three independent multilocus convergences on eye regression.  This observation underscores the power of a well defined environment to repeatedly direct the evolution of the same end phenotype, regardless of initial genotype."6  Sight returned because each cave had broken loci the other had not.

Which genes, and how broken?  For pigment, Protas and colleagues in 2006 "found different deletions in Oca2 in each population and, using a cell-based assay, showed that both cause loss of function of the corresponding protein, OCA2.  Thus, the two cave populations evolved albinism independently, through similar mutational events."7  Joshua Gross and Horst Wilkens later found the Pachón allele in Micos fish of the other lineage, so "distinct cave populations can evolve the same troglomorphic phenotype from standing genetic variation present in the ancestral taxon."23  For the eye, Li Ma and colleagues in 2020 identified "cystathionine ß-synthase a (cbsa), which encodes the key enzyme of the transsulfuration pathway, as one of the mutated genes responsible for eye degeneration in multiple cavefish populations."8  The allele is hypomorphic, not null, and it acts by damaging the optic blood supply.  And in the Pachón genome, "Only one pseudogene was found in the Pachón cavefish genome, which is due to a deletion of 11 bp in pde6b"15 among 85 vision genes surveyed.

That last number cuts the other way too.  One broken vision gene out of 85 means the other 84 carry no loss-of-function mutation, which is what Jeffery said in 2009: "the genes involved in eye development that have been identified thus far do not appear to have mutated to a degree in which they have lost function."3  Wilkens, who built the neutral-mutation case over forty years, agrees: "currently there is no strong evidence supporting the notion that structural eye genes have been afflicted by destructive mutations."11  So the honest statement is mixed.  The eye is lost through a dozen or more loci whose cave alleles all reduce it; a few of those loci carry visible coding lesions; most of the change is regulatory, in the expression of genes that still work.

Where did the cave alleles come from?  Partly from mutations in the caves, and partly from variation the surface fish already carried.  Nicolas Rohner, Susan Lindquist, Clifford Tabin and colleagues reported in 2013 that "HSP90 phenotypically masks standing eye size variation in surface populations of the cavefish Astyanax mexicanus.  This variation is exposed by HSP90 inhibition, and can be selected for, ultimately yielding a reduced-eye phenotype even in the presence of full HSP90 activity.  Raising surface fish under conditions found in caves taxes the HSP90 system, unmasking the same phenotypic variation as direct inhibition of HSP90."24  The 2018 whole-genome study found gene flow between caves and concluded that "repeated evolution in this system may, in part, rely on standing genetic variation."14  A 2020 eLife paper from Jeffery's group reared surface fish in the dark and found that "many cave-related traits can appear within a single generation by phenotypic plasticity."25  Standing variation is mutation that happened earlier, in the surface population, where HSP90 hid it; what it removes is the need for the caves to wait for new mutations, which matters for the clock.

Part 4: Why the eyes went

Three explanations compete, and the field's own reviews list them in the same order.  Krishnan and Rohner: "1) Direct natural selection against eyes to conserve energy or mitigate any other disadvantage of having eyes (entry point for infection, prone to injury, etc.).  2) Indirect selection against eyes by selecting for another trait that is negatively linked to eye development.  3) No selection at all.  Simply due to the accumulation of random mutations after relaxed selection for eyes."12

Energy.  Jeffery's 2005 review had counted the developmental cost as small, and Protas's 2007 reply moved the cost to upkeep: "Past arguments against a role for selection in regression of cave fish eyes cited the insignificant cost of their development, but we argue that the energetic cost of their maintenance is sufficiently high for eyes to be detrimental in the cave environment."5  Damian Moran, Rowan Softley and Eric Warrant measured it in 2015, noting that until then it had been "difficult to evaluate the "expensive tissue hypothesis.""9  Their result: "The cost of vision was calculated to be 15% of resting metabolism for a 1-g fish, decreasing to 5% in an 8.5-g fish as relative eye and brain size declined during growth."9  The eyes alone cost the small fish 8 percent.9  Their conclusion: "The cost of the visual system as a fraction of minimal metabolism in juvenile surface fish (15%) approaches the cost of the human brain (about 20 to 25%).  Vision is therefore likely to be under strong selective pressure to regress in caves, where light is absent and food is limited."9

Pleiotropy.  Jeffery's alternative is that eyes were not selected against at all but lost as the price of something else.  The 2005 abstract: "eyes could have been lost by default as a consequence of natural selection for constructive traits, such as feeding structures, which are positively regulated by Hh signaling.  We conclude from these studies that eye degeneration in cavefish may be caused by adaptive evolution and pleiotropy."26  The 2009 Developmental Biology paper tested it: "Genetic crosses between cavefish and surface fish revealed an inverse relationship between eye size and jaw size/taste bud number,"10 and the authors "suggest that selection for constructive oral pharyngeal traits may be responsible for eye loss via pleiotropic function of the Shh signaling pathway."10  Wilkens read his own crosses the other way a year later: "The constructive and regressive modules are shown to inherit independently from each other, which does not support the view that eye regression is a spin off effect of the improvement of beneficial traits through pleiotropy."11  And Rétaux and Casane's point that the hedgehog genes are not among the twelve QTL weakens the specific version in which shh is the pleiotropic lever.22

Drift.  Wilkens' neutral-mutation theory held the field for decades.  Krishnan and Rohner: "The neutral hypothesis (the accumulation of hypomorphic mutations in the absence of selection) was favoured until recently when the results of new genetic, developmental and physiological studies supported the adaptive evolution of eye regression in cave animals."12  Against drift stand the uniform QTL polarity, the measured cost, and the recency of the caves, which the genome paper says "suggests that selection may drive the evolution of cave-derived traits, as opposed to disuse and drift."14  For drift stand the pigment QTL and the fact that most eye genes are not visibly broken, which is what relaxed selection on a young population would look like too.

The honest state of the dispute is in the reviews.  Jeffery, 2009: "It should be emphasized that the current data does not allow us to conclude unequivocally that either selection or neutral mutation is responsible for regressive evolution."3  Rétaux and Casane, 2013: "We conclude that both genetic drift (neutral hypothesis) and direct and indirect selection (selective hypothesis) occurred together during the loss of eyes in cave animals."22  Krishnan and Rohner, 2017: "None of these theories have been fully proved, and most probably the final answer will be that all three have contributed to some extent."12  The disagreement is about the cause of a loss whose occurrence, mechanism and genetics all three agree on.

Part 5: How old the caves are

The dating matters more to this article than the cause, because it is the only place the two models part.

The older picture came from mitochondrial DNA.  Martina Bradic, Borowsky and colleagues genotyped 26 microsatellite loci in eleven cave and ten surface populations in 2012 and found that the caves "have at least five separate evolutionary origins,"18 from two surface stocks: "The old stock colonized caves at least three times independently while the new stock colonized caves at least twice independently."18  The two stocks were thought to be old: "The estimates from mtDNA suggest that these two groups diverged about 6.7 Mya".18  Borowsky's 2008 paper had written of lineages that "may not have been exposed to light for the last one million years,"6 which was an assumption stated in a paper about complementation, not a date anyone had measured.

Nuclear DNA has since cut these numbers by one to two orders of magnitude.  Julien Fumey, Rétaux, Casane and colleagues re-analysed the microsatellites with a model that allows migration and reported that "microsatellite polymorphism strongly supports a very recent origin of cave populations (< 20,000 years),"13 "notwithstanding their "old" or "young" classification."13  An independent test with thousands of transcript SNPs from Pachón fitted best "when the divergence was recent, in most cases around 20,000 years".13  Their conclusion states the consequence: "If cave populations are indeed only several thousand years old, many phenotypic changes observed in cavefish would thus have mainly involved the fixation of genetic variants present in surface fish populations and within a very short period of time."13

The same year Adam Herman, Suzanne McGaugh and seventeen coauthors "resequenced 47 whole genomes of the Mexican tetra from three cave populations, two surface populations, and outgroup samples."14  They kept the two lineages but not the old dates: "The two lineages likely diverged much more recently than previous mitochondrial estimates of 5–7mya.  Divergence of cave populations from their phylogenetically closest surface population likely occurred between ~161k - 191k generations ago."14  The conversion to years is stated: "Assuming the generation interval of one year, the oldest estimate for the old and new split is more than an order of magnitude less than that estimated from the cytochrome b which places the divergence time between lineages between 5.7–7.5 mya."14  Their demographic models put the lineage split at about 257,000 generations and the cave-surface splits at 161,000 to 191,000.14  Fumey and Herman differ by a factor of about eight, and both are in the late Pleistocene.

A third clock uses the genes themselves.  Maxime Policarpo, Casane and colleagues counted loss-of-function mutations in vision genes across cavefishes and fossorial mammals in 2021.  In Astyanax, "86 and 85 vision genes were retrieved from the surface fish and the Pachón cavefish genome, respectively.  Only one pseudogene was found in the Pachón cavefish genome, which is due to a deletion of 11 bp in pde6b".15  Their reading: "The retention of almost all of the eye-specific genes in this blindfish is a paradox under the hypothesis that it evolved millions of years ago, but would be expected under the hypothesis that all A. mexicanus cave populations are very recent".15  Across the group, "The limited extent of gene decay in all these cavefishes and the very small number of loss-of-function mutations per pseudogene suggest that their eye degeneration may not be very ancient, ranging from early to late Pleistocene.  This is in sharp contrast with the identification of several vision genes carrying many loss-of-function mutations in ancient fossorial mammals, further suggesting that blind fishes cannot thrive more than a few million years in cave ecosystems."15  The Mexican tetra is the youngest: "the most recent, the Mexican A. mexicanus, during the late Pleistocene or even later in the Holocene."15

What the timescale means for each model is different.  For common descent it means eye loss is fast and mostly regulatory, drawn from standing variation, which fits Rohner and Fumey and is no embarrassment.  For a young-earth model it is the one number that bites.  A post-Flood chronology allows about 4,500 years for the caves to be colonised and the eyes lost.  Fumey's "less than 20,000" is four times that; Herman's 161,000 generations at a year each is forty times that; Policarpo's Holocene reading is the only one that reaches down into that range, and it is a bound, not a date.  A young-earth account therefore needs either faster mutation and shorter generations than these papers assume, or a demonstration that coalescent models overstate the age of recently admixed populations, which Fumey himself flags as a hard problem.  Both are computable from the published inputs, and no creationist source has tried.

Part 6: What the case shows on the parent's definition

The parent's three steps are homology, reduction and ancestral distribution.  The cave eye passes all three without argument.  The rudiment in the orbit is the same organ as the surface eye, made by the same embryo from the same primordium, and it can be rescued by a surface lens.  It is reduced to a buried remnant.  And its ancestor is the surface form of the same species, which every party, Darwin, Coyne, Behe, Wieland and Ham, accepts.  This is the honest vestige: a real organ, really lost, by a mechanism that has been watched in the embryo and mapped in the genome, at a metabolic cost that has been measured.

It is also, for that reason, a weak discriminator.  The parent article notes that the creationist reply "loss would prove devolution not evolution" concedes reduction within kinds.  Here the reduction is within one interfertile species, so no kind boundary is in play at all.  Both models predict that a sighted fish trapped in the dark will lose its eyes; the creationist model predicts it because mutation plus selection operates in a fallen world, the evolutionary model because mutation plus selection operates everywhere.  The developmental and genetic findings do not distinguish the two.  The only finding that can is the age of the caves, and that is a question about clocks, not about eyes.

Part 7: The creationist literature, in its own words

The creationist position on cave fish is older than most of the research and, on the mechanism, matches it.  Wieland in 2006: "However, Dr Coyne is on safe ground in assuming that blind cave creatures descended from ones that had eyes.  There are cave fish, for instance, often the same species as 'seeing' ones above ground, who start to develop eyes as embryos.  But then the process halts and they end up with scar tissue where their eyes were evidently meant to be."2  His mechanism: "Eyes are delicate and thus easily injured in darkness, allowing the entry of potentially lethal bacteria.  So, in total darkness, eyes are no longer an asset, but a handicap."2  And his conclusion: "The evidence from blind cave fish continues to give a great illustration of mutational loss and natural selection, i.e. informationally 'downhill' change."2  Protas 2006, Protas 2007, Borowsky 2008 and Ma 2020 support every clause.

Wieland's 2008 piece on the complementation crosses is the most careful creationist treatment.  He correctly reports that "the same defect (eye loss) was caused by different genes being damaged in each of the populations,"27 and calls the result "deterioration of function, consistent with the 'natural' direction of genetic change in a fallen world."27  Then he makes a prediction: "the degree of restoration of even the brain connections suggests that there has not been enough time for significant mutational deterioration to occur in most or all of the genetic instructions needed for eyesight,"27 and "the possibility of such a reconstruction would get progressively less likely, the more time that has elapsed since the fish were originally confined to their underworld existence."27  That claim was tested.  Policarpo's one pseudogene in 85 and Fumey's 20,000 years are the answer.  The direction was Wieland's; the magnitude was not.  Twenty thousand years is short beside Borowsky's million, and long beside a Flood.

Brian Thomas at ICR reported Bradic's five origins accurately in 2012 and drew the information argument: "But obtaining the fish sight system required an input of a massive quantity and quality of information.  And making the fish blind merely required the loss of some of that information."28  The papers do not deny it; they call the process regressive evolution because the word covers loss.  Elizabeth Mitchell at Answers in Genesis in 2014 likewise conceded loss: "When populations that had lost their genetic information for sight while isolated were reunited, the genetic information for proper eyes was reassembled like the pieces of a puzzle."29  Her "2 to 3 million years" in the same passage is not a figure any population-genetic paper gives.

After Rohner's HSP90 paper the tone changed from loss to design.  Thomas in 2014: "the sightless Mexican tetra exhibits development of helpful, cave-specific traits—not from harmful mutations but through genetic variability buffered by HSP90."30  Jeanette Littleton in Answers magazine in 2016, under the deck "Scientists once thought cave fish lost their sight by accident.  Now we know they were designed that way!":16 "Remember, the fish aren't blind because of information-destroying mutations—their eye genes are all intact.  But the environment changes which genetic instructions are used to build eyes."16  She adds: "If the blind cave fish are reintroduced to the water outside the cave, within a generation or so, offspring can again be born with fully functioning eyes."16  Jeffrey Tomkins at ICR in 2017: "when scientists determined the DNA sequence of different eye development genes in cavefish and compared them to the DNA of normal surface dwelling fish, no mutations were found."17  Ken Ham in 2023: "These changes cause the genes for eye development to be "turned off"—and it can happen in just one generation and likewise be "reversed" in just one generation!"31

Three of these claims overreach.  "Their eye genes are all intact" and "no mutations were found" are false as stated: oca2 carries different deletions in two caves, cbsa is hypomorphic in several, and pde6b has an 11-base deletion in Pachón, and Rohner's own abstract describes "standing eye size variation," which is variation produced by mutation before the caves were entered.  The one-generation reversal in the wild has no source; Bilandžija's single-generation result runs the other way, surface fish reared in the dark, and does not list vision among the traits, while the only documented restorations of sight are Borowsky's crosses between caves, which took a laboratory and gave 39 percent at best.  Littleton's "up to 15%" for the cost of vision is Moran's number exactly,16 and Tomkins is right that epigenetic and plastic mechanisms are part of the story.  The design reading that survives contact with the primaries is Wieland's, not Littleton's: a fish built with enough regulatory slack to lose its eyes quickly, and then losing them by mutation and selection like everything else.

Objections and responses

"This is evolution in action, and the creationists are just relabelling it."  The relabelling runs both ways.  The research papers call eye loss regressive evolution and the creationist pages call it devolution, and both describe the same thing: mutation, selection and drift removing an organ within a species.  Neither side's word choice is evidence.  What would count is a change that the creationist model forbids, and loss within an interfertile species is not one.

"Loss of information proves nothing; evolution is mostly loss."  Agreed, and that is the point.  The parent article says a vestige argues for common ancestry, not for bad design, and that finding loss where the model predicts loss settles nothing.  The tetra is a demonstration that eyes can be lost, which nobody disputed, and the ancestry it demonstrates is within one species.

"The eye genes are intact, so this was designed switching, not mutation."  Most eye genes are intact in sequence, as Jeffery and Wilkens both say.  But oca2 carries different deletions in two caves,7 cbsa is mutated in several,8 pde6b has an 11-base deletion,15 and the twelve eye QTL are, by definition, sequence differences between cave and surface alleles.5  Standing variation unmasked by HSP90 is variation that mutation produced earlier.24  A switch that is thrown by a mutated regulator is still a mutation.

"Different caves lost eyes by different mutations, which is what convergence under selection predicts, not design."  Partly.  Borowsky's crosses show different loci in different caves,6 but Gross and Wilkens found the same oca2 allele in caves of both lineages,23 and Herman found alleles moving between caves by gene flow.14  The pattern is a mixture of independent loss and shared inheritance, and a designer who built the surface fish with hidden eye-size variation would produce that mixture as readily as selection would.

"The caves are tens of thousands of years old, which refutes a young earth."  This is the strongest objection and the article does not answer it.  The best young-earth reply is that all three clocks rest on assumed mutation rates and generation times, that Fumey and Herman differ by a factor of eight between themselves, and that Policarpo's bound reaches into the Holocene.  That is a reason to treat the numbers as soft, not a reason to think they collapse to 4,500 years.  Until someone on the young-earth side reruns the coalescent models with rates they defend, the objection stands.

Issues and unanswered questions

  • Which genes sit under the twelve eye QTL is still unknown for most of them, and the hedgehog genes are not among them.22 Until the loci are named, "regulatory versus loss-of-function" is a statement about a few genes, not about the trait.
  • The three age estimates disagree by a factor of eight and share a mutation-rate assumption. A young-earth calculation that varied that assumption within measured bounds would show how far the dates can move, and none exists.
  • Herman's dates assume one generation a year in the wild; if cave fish breed more slowly, the years go up, not down.
  • Littleton's and Ham's claim that cave fish reintroduced to surface water regain eyes within a generation has no primary source in this survey. If a study exists, it belongs here.
  • The full texts of Yamamoto 2000, Yamamoto 2004 and Protas 2006 were read only as abstracts; the numbers used from them are the abstracts' own.

Verdict

The blind Mexican tetra is a vestigial eye by the parent article's definition and by everyone's admission.  It forms, it is killed by its own lens under a broadened hedgehog signal, it maps to a dozen loci whose cave alleles all shrink it, two eye genes and the albinism gene carry visible lesions, and it costs a small fish 15 percent of its energy to keep.  That is a loss of function with a mechanism and a price, and it is exactly what both models expect a sighted fish to do in the dark.  It argues for descent from the surface form, which nobody denies, and for nothing beyond that.  The one place it presses on a young earth is the age of the caves, which every nuclear method puts between 20,000 and 190,000 years, and on that number the creationist literature has said nothing at all.

Sources


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    Darwin, Charles.  On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection.  John Murray, London.  1st edition.  1859.  The first edition of Darwin's book on the origin of species by means of natural selection.  The article uses it for two things Darwin wrote about blind cave animals:  that their eyes were lost through disuse, and that the cave animals' likeness to the other animals of Europe and America is hard to explain if each kind was made separately.

    1. 1a.

      Page 137:  “It is well known that several animals, belonging to the most different classes, which inhabit the caves of Styria and of Kentucky, are blind.” ↩

    2. 1b.

      Page 137:  “As it is difficult to imagine that eyes, though useless, could be in any way injurious to animals living in darkness, I attribute their loss wholly to disuse.” ↩ ↩

    3. 1c.

      Page 139:  “It would be most difficult to give any rational explanation of the affinities of the blind cave-animals to the other inhabitants of the two continents on the ordinary view of their independent creation.” ↩

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    Wieland, Carl.  “Blind fish, island immigrants and hairy babies.”  Creation Ministries International.  Jan 26, 2006.  A web article by Carl Wieland, a reply to Jerry Coyne's review of Niles Eldredge's book The Triumph of Evolution.  It argues that blind cave fish show mutational loss plus natural selection in total darkness, where eyes become a handicap.  The article uses it as the creationist statement of the loss view, and for Wieland's concession that the blind fish descended from sighted ones.

    1. 2a.

      Section 1. Sightless eyes:  “Had he bothered to read the mainstream creationist literature, Coyne would have realized that we delight in using blind cave fish as examples of 'downhill' or 'information-losing' mutations causing 'devolution'.” ↩

    2. 2b.

      Section 1. Sightless eyes:  “However, Dr Coyne is on safe ground in assuming that blind cave creatures descended from ones that had eyes.  There are cave fish, for instance, often the same species as 'seeing' ones above ground, who start to develop eyes as embryos.  But then the process halts and they end up with scar tissue where their eyes were evidently meant to be (see aside below).” ↩ ↩

    3. 2c.

      Section 1. Sightless eyes:  “Eyes are delicate and thus easily injured in darkness, allowing the entry of potentially lethal bacteria.  So, in total darkness, eyes are no longer an asset, but a handicap.” ↩

    4. 2d.

      Section 1. Sightless eyes:  “The evidence from blind cave fish continues to give a great illustration of mutational loss and natural selection, i.e. informationally 'downhill' change.” ↩

  3. 3.

    Jeffery, William R.  “Regressive evolution in Astyanax cavefish.”  Annual Review of Genetics 43:25–47.  2009.  A review article by William R. Jeffery of the University of Maryland on how the cave Astyanax fish lost its eyes and pigment.  It says the mechanisms of this loss are still poorly understood, and it summarises recent work on the cells and molecules involved, the number and identity of the genes, and the evolutionary forces at work.  The article uses it for how the eye is built and then degenerates, and for Jeffery's own statement that the data do not decide between selection and neutral mutation.

    1. 3a.

      Figure 5 caption:  “In cavefish, the eye primordium grows for a while, then arrests, degenerates, and is internalized by overgrowth of the body.” ↩

    2. 3b.

      Section Developmental basis of eye regression:  “However, the embryonic lens starts to die several days before any other eye tissue, earmarking it for a possible regulatory role (21, 58).” ↩ ↩

    3. 3c.

      Section Developmental basis of eye regression:  “The transplants were done on only one side of the embryo, allowing the other side to serve as a control.  Transplanted lenses behave autonomously: The cavefish lens died on schedule in the surface fish host, and the surface fish lens survived and grew in the cavefish host.” ↩

    4. 3d.

      Section Evolutionary forces:  “It should be emphasized that the current data does not allow us to conclude unequivocally that either selection or neutral mutation is responsible for regressive evolution.” ↩

    5. 3e.

      Section Evolutionary forces:  “First, the genes involved in eye development that have been identified thus far do not appear to have mutated to a degree in which they have lost function.  For example, the restoration of eyes by lens transplantation suggests that genes operating downstream of lens function are present and potentially active in cavefish (23, 66).” ↩

  4. 4.

    Yamamoto, Yoshiyuki et al.  “Hedgehog signalling controls eye degeneration in blind cavefish.”  Nature 431(7010):844–847.  Oct 14, 2004.  A paper in Nature that tests hedgehog signalling (a chain of signals that controls how embryos grow) in the eye loss of blind cavefish.  Its abstract reports that two hedgehog genes are expressed across a wider stretch of the embryo's front midline in several cave populations, and that this extra signal makes the lens die by apoptosis (programmed cell death) and stops eye growth.  The article uses it to show that the cave eye is built and then taken apart, and that the broader midline signal is what kills the lens.

    1. 4a.

      Section Abstract:  “Small eye primordia are formed during cavefish embryogenesis, which later arrest in development, degenerate and sink into the orbits.  Eye degeneration is caused by apoptosis of the embryonic lens, and transplanting a surface fish embryonic lens into a cavefish optic cup can restore a complete eye.” ↩ ↩

    2. 4b.

      Section Abstract:  “Here we show that sonic hedgehog (shh) and tiggy-winkle hedgehog (twhh) gene expression is expanded along the anterior embryonic midline in several different cavefish populations.  The expansion of hh signalling results in hyperactivation of downstream genes, lens apoptosis and arrested eye growth and development.” ↩ ↩

  5. 5.

    Protas, Meredith et al.  “Regressive evolution in the Mexican cave tetra, Astyanax mexicanus.”  Current Biology 17(5):452–454.  Mar 6, 2007.  A short research paper in Current Biology that maps the genes behind smaller eyes and fewer pigment cells in the Mexican cave tetra.  The team crossed a Pachón cave fish with a surface fish, producing 539 second-generation (F2) siblings, and mapped quantitative trait loci (QTL, regions of the genome that shift a measurable trait).  It found twelve eye and lens loci, and every one of them shrank the eye or lens in the cave version, which the authors say fits natural selection better than genetic drift (chance changes in gene frequencies).  The work comes from one cross, so it describes one cave population.  The article uses it as its first genome-wide map of the eye loss.

    1. 5a.

      Section Summary:  “Cave alleles at each eye/lens QTL we detected caused size reductions.  This uniform negative polarity is consistent with evolution by natural selection and inconsistent with evolution by drift.  In contrast, QTL polarities for melanophore number were mixed, consistent with evolution by genetic drift or indirect selection through pleiotropy.” ↩ ↩

    2. 5b.

      Section Summary:  “Past arguments against a role for selection in regression of cave fish eyes cited the insignificant cost of their development [2, 3], but we argue that the energetic cost of their maintenance is sufficiently high for eyes to be detrimental in the cave environment.”  Their references 2 and 3 are Culver's Cave Life (1982) and Eigenmann's Cave Vertebrates of America (1909). ↩

    3. 5c.

      Section Results and Discussion:  “Cave alleles at all 12 eye/lens QTL effect relatively modest, but steady decreases of eye/lens size (Fig. 1a).  In contrast, cave alleles at QTL affecting melanophore number have positive (n = 5), as well as negative slopes (n = 8), and their substitution affects are much larger (Fig. 1b).” ↩ ↩

    4. 5d.

      Section Results and Discussion:  “We hybridized Pachón cave and surface fish, creating a mapping progeny of 539 F2 siblings.” ↩

  6. 6.

    Borowsky, Richard.  “Restoring sight in blind cavefish.”  Current Biology 18(1):R23–R24.  Jan 8, 2008.  A two-page piece in the Magazine section of Current Biology reporting Borowsky's own hybrid crosses between blind cavefish from different caves.  A hybrid is the offspring of two different parent populations, here a first-generation (F1) cross.  Some of the hybrids could see, the share depending on which two caves were crossed, from 1% to 39%.  The crosses use fish from only three caves, Molino, Pachón and Tinaja-Curva, so the result describes those three.  The article uses it to show that different caves lost their eyes through partly different genes.

    1. 6a.

      Page R23:  “Eye loss has evolved independently at least three times [4,5] and at least some of the eye loci involved differ between the different cave populations [3].” ↩

    2. 6b.

      Page R23:  “Here we demonstrate restoration of vision in cavefish whose immediate ancestors were blind and whose separate lineages may not have been exposed to light for the last one million years.” ↩

    3. 6c.

      Page R24:  “This suggests that loss of function at three or four eye loci suffices to abolish vision.” ↩

    4. 6d.

      Page R24:  “On average, 39% of Molino/Tinaja, 8% of Pachón/Tinaja, and 1% of Molino/Pachón F1 hybrids could see.” ↩ ↩

    5. 6e.

      Page R24:  “Thus, Molino, Pachón, and Tinaja-Curva represent three independent multilocus convergences on eye regression.  This observation underscores the power of a well defined environment to repeatedly direct the evolution of the same end phenotype, regardless of initial genotype.” ↩ ↩

  7. 7.

    Protas, Meredith E. et al.  “Genetic analysis of cavefish reveals molecular convergence in the evolution of albinism.”  Nature Genetics 38(1):107–111.  Jan 2006.  A genetic study of albinism (loss of pigment) in cave populations of the Mexican tetra, published in 2006.  Its abstract reports that the two cave populations it compares carry different deletions (missing stretches of DNA) in the same gene, oca2, and that both deletions stop the protein from working, so the two populations lost pigment independently through similar mutations.  The article uses it for the claim that albinism rests on different deletions in each cave.

    1. 7a.

      Section Abstract:  “We found different deletions in Oca2 in each population and, using a cell-based assay, showed that both cause loss of function of the corresponding protein, OCA2.  Thus, the two cave populations evolved albinism independently, through similar mutational events.” ↩ ↩ ↩

  8. 8.

    Ma, Li et al.  “A hypomorphic cystathionine ß-synthase gene contributes to cavefish eye loss by disrupting optic vasculature.”  Nature Communications 11:2772.  Jun 2, 2020.  A laboratory study of Mexican tetra embryos that identified cbsa, a gene for an enzyme that turns homocysteine into cystathionine, as one of the genes behind cave eye loss.  Cave embryos make less cbsa because of a change in the DNA that controls the gene itself, which the authors call cis-regulation, and blocking the cbs genes in surface fish causes small eyes, leaking blood vessels and bleeding around the eye.  The article uses it as the named gene that is mutated in several cave populations, and "hypomorphic" in the title means a weaker form of the gene.

    1. 8a.

      Page 1, section Abstract:  “Vestigial structures are key indicators of evolutionary descent, but the mechanisms underlying their development are poorly understood.” ↩

    2. 8b.

      Page 1, section Abstract:  “Here we identify cystathionine ß-synthase a (cbsa), which encodes the key enzyme of the transsulfuration pathway, as one of the mutated genes responsible for eye degeneration in multiple cavefish populations.” ↩ ↩ ↩

  9. 9.

    Moran, Damian et al.  “The energetic cost of vision and the evolution of eyeless Mexican cavefish.”  Science Advances 1(8):e1500363.  Sep 11, 2015.  A laboratory study that measured the oxygen used by isolated eyes and brains of 10 Pachón cavefish and 10 surface fish, and used those measurements to model the energy cost of vision.  Oxygen use is a measure of how much energy a tissue burns.  The authors say the result does not by itself settle how eye loss evolved, and the article uses the figure as its energy argument for selection.

    1. 9a.

      Page 1, section Abstract:  “However, data on relative brain and eye mass in this species or on any measure of the energetic cost of neural tissue are not available, making it difficult to evaluate the "expensive tissue hypothesis."” ↩

    2. 9b.

      Page 1, section Abstract:  “The cost of vision was calculated to be 15% of resting metabolism for a 1-g fish, decreasing to 5% in an 8.5-g fish as relative eye and brain size declined during growth.” ↩ ↩

    3. 9c.

      Page 3:  “The energetic cost of eyes in a 1-g surface fish was 8% of resting metabolism, decreasing to 5% in an 8.5-g surface fish”. ↩

    4. 9d.

      Page 4:  “The cost of the visual system as a fraction of minimal metabolism in juvenile surface fish (15%) approaches the cost of the human brain (about 20 to 25%) (20).  Vision is therefore likely to be under strong selective pressure to regress in caves, where light is absent and food is limited.” ↩

  10. 10.

    Yamamoto, Yoshiyuki et al.  “Pleiotropic functions of embryonic sonic hedgehog expression link jaw and taste bud amplification with eye loss during cavefish evolution.”  Developmental Biology 330(1):200–211.  Jun 1, 2009.  A laboratory study of sonic hedgehog, a signalling gene with many jobs in development, in cavefish embryos and in hybrids between surface fish and cavefish that differ in eye size.  It found that the hybrids with smaller eyes had larger jaws and more taste buds, and that hyperactive hedgehog signalling enlarges the jaws and taste buds of cavefish.  The article uses it as the test of whether the eyes were lost as a side effect of selection for jaws and taste buds.

    1. 10a.

      Section Abstract:  “Genetic crosses between cavefish and surface fish revealed an inverse relationship between eye size and jaw size/taste bud number, supporing the linkage between oral pharyngeal constructive traits and eye degeneration.”  "supporing" is spelled that way in the printed abstract. ↩

    2. 10b.

      Section Abstract:  “The results suggest that hyperactive Shh signaling increases oral and taste bud amplification in cavefish and suggest that selection for constructive oral pharyngeal traits may be responsible for eye loss via pleiotropic function of the Shh signaling pathway.” ↩ ↩

  11. 11.

    Wilkens, Horst.  “Genes, modules and the evolution of cave fish.”  Heredity 105(5):413–422.  2010.  A review, not a new experiment, that places the classical and molecular genetic studies of cave fish in one framework.  It finds no strong evidence that the structural eye genes have been broken by destructive mutations, and it reports that the regressive and constructive traits are inherited independently, which does not support the idea that the eye was lost as a side effect of improving other traits.  The article cites it for the claim that the eye genes are unbroken, which it counts as support for drift.

    1. 11a.

      Page 413:  “Sequence data and the wide range of intermediate sized eyes in hybrids between surface and cave fish suggest that currently there is no strong evidence supporting the notion that structural eye genes have been afflicted by destructive mutations.  The hedgehog genes, which are suggested to reduce the primordial eye cup size in cavefish by expanded expression, are also not mutated.” ↩ ↩ ↩

    2. 11b.

      Page 413:  “The constructive and regressive modules are shown to inherit independently from each other, which does not support the view that eye regression is a spin off effect of the improvement of beneficial traits through pleiotropy.” ↩

  12. 12.

    Krishnan, Jaya, and Nicolas Rohner.  “Cavefish and the basis for eye loss.”  Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society B 372(1713):20150487.  Feb 5, 2017.  A review of the genetic, developmental and physiological evidence on why cavefish lose their eyes.  It lists three explanations, direct selection against eyes, indirect selection through a linked trait, and no selection at all, and it concludes that none has been fully proved.  The article cites it as one of three reviews from three laboratories that say all three explanations probably contributed and none is proved.

    1. 12a.

      Section 1. Introduction:  “The neutral hypothesis (the accumulation of hypomorphic mutations in the absence of selection) was favoured until recently when the results of new genetic, developmental and physiological studies supported the adaptive evolution of eye regression in cave animals (see below).” ↩

    2. 12b.

      Section Section on evolutionary forces:  “1) Direct natural selection against eyes to conserve energy or mitigate any other disadvantage of having eyes (entry point for infection, prone to injury, etc.).  2) Indirect selection against eyes by selecting for another trait that is negatively linked to eye development.  3) No selection at all.  Simply due to the accumulation of random mutations after relaxed selection for eyes.” ↩

    3. 12c.

      Section Section on evolutionary forces:  “None of these theories have been fully proved, and most probably the final answer will be that all three have contributed to some extent.” ↩ ↩

    4. 12d.

      Section Section on eye development:  “This appears to be a waste of resources and energy; however, from a neurodevelopmental point of view, it seems to be unavoidable.” ↩

  13. 13.

    Fumey, Julien et al.  “Evidence for late Pleistocene origin of Astyanax mexicanus cavefish.”  BMC Evolutionary Biology 18:43.  Apr 18, 2018.  A research paper that dated the cave populations by two methods: a program that estimates split times from published microsatellite DNA markers, and a comparison of new SNP data (single-letter DNA differences) from embryos with computer simulations.  It found the caves under 20,000 years old by microsatellites and probably under 30,000 by SNPs, though its dates depend on the mutation rate it assumed.  The article uses it for the under-20,000-year figure from microsatellites.

    1. 13a.

      Page 1:  “Twenty-nine cavefish populations have been discovered so far in limestone caves in the Sierra de El Abra region of northeastern Mexico”. ↩

    2. 13b.

      Page 1, section Abstract:  “Using IMa2, a program that allows dating population divergence in addition to demographic parameters, we found that microsatellite polymorphism strongly supports a very recent origin of cave populations (< 20,000 years).” ↩ ↩

    3. 13c.

      Page 1, section Abstract:  “If cave populations are indeed only several thousand years old, many phenotypic changes observed in cavefish would thus have mainly involved the fixation of genetic variants present in surface fish populations and within a very short period of time.” ↩

    4. 13d.

      Page 3:  “we obtained good evidence of a recent origin of all cavefish populations analyzed, e.g. likely less than 20,000 years ago, notwithstanding their "old" or "young" classification.” ↩

    5. 13e.

      Page 8:  “good fits could be found between observed and simulated summary statistics when the effective population size of the cave population was much smaller than the surface effective population size and when the divergence was recent, in most cases around 20,000 years”. ↩

  14. 14.

    Herman, Adam et al.  “The role of gene flow in rapid and repeated evolution of cave-related traits in Mexican tetra, Astyanax mexicanus.”  Molecular Ecology 27(22):4397–4416.  Nov 2018.  A genome study that sequenced 47 whole genomes of the Mexican tetra from three cave populations, two surface populations and outgroup samples used for comparison.  It found that the cave populations come from at least two separate lineages, which split from their nearest surface population about 161k - 191k generations ago, far more recently than the earlier estimate of 5–7 mya (million years ago).  The article uses it for those dates, and for the authors' suggestion that selection, not disuse and drift, may have driven the cave traits; the authors turn generations into years by assuming one generation a year.

    1. 14a.

      Section Abstract:  “In this study, we resequenced 47 whole genomes of the Mexican tetra from three cave populations, two surface populations, and outgroup samples.” ↩

    2. 14b.

      Section Abstract:  “We confirmed that cave populations are polyphyletic and two Astyanax mexicanus lineages are present in our dataset.  The two lineages likely diverged much more recently than previous mitochondrial estimates of 5–7mya.  Divergence of cave populations from their phylogenetically closest surface population likely occurred between ~161k - 191k generations ago.” ↩ ↩

    3. 14c.

      Section Abstract:  “The recency of these estimated divergence events suggests that selection may drive the evolution of cave-derived traits, as opposed to disuse and drift.” ↩

    4. 14d.

      Section Results:  “Assuming the generation interval of one year, the oldest estimate for the old and new split is more than an order of magnitude less than that estimated from the cytochrome b which places the divergence time between lineages between 5.7–7.5 mya (Ornelas-García et al. 2008).” ↩

    5. 14e.

      Section Discussion:  “Demographic models estimate split time between the two lineages at approximately 257k generations ago, and estimates of cave-surface population splits are ~161k - 191k generations ago.” ↩

    6. 14f.

      Section Discussion:  “This suggests that gene flow between caves may hasten adaptation to the cave environment and suggests that repeated evolution in this system may, in part, rely on standing genetic variation.” ↩ ↩

  15. 15.

    Policarpo, Maxime et al.  “contrasting gene decay in subterranean vertebrates: insights from cavefishes and fossorial mammals.”  Molecular Biology and Evolution 38(2):589–605.  Feb 2021.  A genome study that counted broken copies of genes for vision, the body clock and pigmentation in two Cuban cave fish of the genus Lucifuga, one blind and one small-eyed, and compared them with Astyanax and with Chinese cavefish.  It found that the Astyanax cavefish keeps almost all of its eye genes, which the authors read as a sign of a very recent origin; several of its authors also wrote the 2018 dating study.  The article uses it as a third, gene-based clock that points to the same young age.

    1. 15a.

      Page 589, section Abstract:  “The limited extent of gene decay in all these cavefishes and the very small number of loss-of-function mutations per pseudogene suggest that their eye degeneration may not be very ancient, ranging from early to late Pleistocene.  This is in sharp contrast with the identification of several vision genes carrying many loss-of-function mutations in ancient fossorial mammals, further suggesting that blind fishes cannot thrive more than a few million years in cave ecosystems.” ↩

    2. 15b.

      Page 590:  “The retention of almost all of the eye-specific genes in this blindfish is a paradox under the hypothesis that it evolved millions of years ago, but would be expected under the hypothesis that all A. mexicanus cave populations are very recent (Fumey et al. 2018).” ↩

    3. 15c.

      Page 592:  “In A. mexicanus, 86 and 85 vision genes were retrieved from the surface fish and the Pachón cavefish genome, respectively.  Only one pseudogene was found in the Pachón cavefish genome, which is due to a deletion of 11 bp in pde6b”. ↩ ↩ ↩

    4. 15d.

      Page 601, section Conclusion:  “the most recent, the Mexican A. mexicanus, during the late Pleistocene or even later in the Holocene.” ↩ ↩

  16. 16.

    Littleton, Jeanette.  “Designed to Go Blind.”  Answers magazine.  Jul 1, 2016.  A magazine feature for general readers in the Science in Perspective series, arguing that cave fish were designed to lose their sight.  The magazine issue is July–September 2016, and the article was posted on 1 July 2016.  The article uses it as the creationist claim that the cave fish's eye genes are intact, and sets it against the oca2, cbsa and pde6b lesions that it says contradict that claim.

    1. 16a.

      The deck, the line printed under the title, reads:  “Scientists once thought cave fish lost their sight by accident.  Now we know they were designed that way!” ↩

    2. 16b.

      “A highly developed visual system can use up to 15% of an animal's energy.” ↩

    3. 16c.

      “Remember, the fish aren't blind because of information-destroying mutations—their eye genes are all intact.  But the environment changes which genetic instructions are used to build eyes.” ↩ ↩

    4. 16d.

      “And even more intriguing: If the blind cave fish are reintroduced to the water outside the cave, within a generation or so, offspring can again be born with fully functioning eyes.” ↩

  17. 17.

    Tomkins, Jeffrey P.  “Blind Cavefish Illuminate Divine Engineering.”  Creation Science Update, Institute for Creation Research.  Oct 23, 2017.  A Creation Science Update article by Jeffrey Tomkins, the Institute for Creation Research's Director of Life Sciences, who holds a PhD in genetics from Clemson University.  His source for the claim that no mutations were found is the Gore et al. 2017 bioRxiv preprint on promoter methylation, titled An epigenetic mechanism for cavefish eye degeneration.  The article uses it for the creationist claim that no mutations were found, which it says the oca2, cbsa and pde6b lesions contradict.

    1. 17a.

      “However, when scientists determined the DNA sequence of different eye development genes in cavefish and compared them to the DNA of normal surface dwelling fish, no mutations were found.” ↩ ↩

  18. 18.

    Bradic, Martina et al.  “Gene flow and population structure in the Mexican blind cavefish complex (Astyanax mexicanus).”  BMC Evolutionary Biology 12:9.  Jan 23, 2012.  A genetic survey that typed 568 specimens from 11 cave and 10 surface populations at 26 microsatellite loci, short stretches of DNA that differ between individuals and so work as genetic markers.  It found that the cave populations have at least five separate evolutionary origins and came from two surface stocks.  The article sets it against the older picture drawn from mitochondrial DNA.

    1. 18a.

      Page 1, section Results:  “The cave populations we studied span the full range of the cave forms in three separate geographic regions and have at least five separate evolutionary origins.” ↩

    2. 18b.

      Page 1, section Conclusions:  “The old stock colonized caves at least three times independently while the new stock colonized caves at least twice independently.” ↩

    3. 18c.

      Page 2:  “There are 29 known cave populations of this species dispersed over three geographically distinct areas”.  The same count is given by Borowsky 2008 (p. R23), Jeffery 2009 (Fig. 3), Krishnan and Rohner 2017 and Fumey 2018 (p. 1). ↩

    4. 18d.

      Page 2:  “The estimates from mtDNA suggest that these two groups diverged about 6.7 Mya”.  Mya means millions of years ago.  The paper cites earlier mitochondrial DNA work for this estimate. ↩

  19. 19.

    Coyne, Jerry A.  Why Evolution Is True.  Viking, New York.  2009.  A 2009 book on evolution by Jerry A. Coyne.  The article cites it because Coyne keeps both selection (mutations that help) and drift (chance changes that neither help nor hurt) open as causes of eye loss in the dark, and says that eyes cost energy to build.

    1. 19a.

      Page 59:  “Like wings, eyes are a burden when you don't need them.  They take energy to build, and can be easily injured.  So any mutations that favored their loss would clearly be advantageous when it's just too dark to see.  Alternatively, mutations that reduced vision could simply accumulate over time if they neither helped nor hurt the animal.” ↩

    2. 19b.

      Page 60:  “These include fish (like the blind cave fish you can buy at pet stores), spiders, salamanders, shrimp, and beetles.” ↩

  20. 20.

    Behe, Michael J.  Darwin Devolves: The New Science About DNA That Challenges Evolution.  HarperOne, New York.  2019.  A 2019 book by Michael J. Behe, the biochemist who argues for intelligent design.  The article cites it because Behe accepts that cave fish descended from sighted ancestors, and explains their lost eyes by random mutations that destroyed structures no longer needed.

    1. 20a.

      Page 73:  “Some creatures that live in total darkness, such as cave fish and mole rats, have eyes that can't see due to damaging mutations in genes for functioning eye structures.  Why would a creator endow species with useless structures?  It's hard to fathom.  Yet if the sightless creatures had descended from sighted ones, but over time random mutations destroyed structures that were no longer needed in a changed environment, then the situation would be understandable.” ↩

  21. 21.

    Yamamoto, Yoshiyuki, and William R. Jeffery.  “Central role for the lens in cave fish eye degeneration.”  Science 289(5479):631–633.  Jul 28, 2000.  A paper in Science whose title says the embryonic lens plays a central role in the loss of the cave fish eye.  Its abstract reports that the eye starts to form in cave embryos and then stops growing and degenerates, and that a surface-fish lens placed in a cave-fish eye cup restores the tissues the cave fish lost.  The article uses it to show that the cave eye is not simply never built.

    1. 21a.

      Section Abstract:  “Eye formation is initiated in cave fish embryos, but the eye subsequently arrests and degenerates.  The surface fish lens stimulates growth and development after transplantation into the cave fish optic cup, restoring optic tissues lost during cave fish evolution.” ↩

  22. 22.

    Rétaux, Sylvie, and Didier Casane.  “Evolution of eye development in the darkness of caves: adaptation, drift, or both?”  EvoDevo 4:26.  Sep 30, 2013.  A review of how cave animals lose their eyes, drawing on developmental biology and molecular evolution, with Astyanax mexicanus as the cavefish it studies most closely.  Its two authors, both at CNRS in France, conclude that genetic drift and selection both acted, and they note that the favoured hedgehog explanation for eye loss has no genetic correlate yet, meaning no matching genes among the known eye loci.  The article uses it as the fullest statement of the dispute.

    1. 22a.

      Page 1, section Abstract:  “We conclude that both genetic drift (neutral hypothesis) and direct and indirect selection (selective hypothesis) occurred together during the loss of eyes in cave animals.” ↩

    2. 22b.

      Page 8:  “It should be noted, though, that the "developmental Hedgehog hypothesis" does not have a genetic correlate: the genomic regions encompassing Hedgehog genes are not among those that contain the 12 QTLs (quantitative trait loci) identified for the control of eye and lens size in Pachón cavefish [43].  Other factors, possibly upstream of Hedgehog, must be involved.” ↩ ↩ ↩

    3. 22c.

      Page 8:  “why do cavefish first develop eyes, before undergoing a progressive degeneration process?  It looks like an unnecessarily complex and energetically costly developmental pathway.  We think that such a process is the consequence of a strong developmental constraint at early stages of forebrain development in vertebrates.” ↩

  23. 23.

    Gross, Joshua B., and Horst Wilkens.  “Albinism in phylogenetically and geographically distinct populations of Astyanax cavefish arises through the same loss-of-function Oca2 allele.”  Heredity 111(2):122–130.  2013.  The abstract reports that albinism, the loss of pigment, in captive Micos cavefish is caused by the same loss-of-function allele, a version of the gene that stops it working, as in Pachón cavefish.  The article uses it to show that caves in different lineages can share one gene variant.

    1. 23a.

      Section Abstract:  “The appearance of albinism in captive Micos cavefish, caused by the same loss-of-function allele present in Pachón cavefish, implies that geographically and phylogenetically distinct cave populations can evolve the same troglomorphic phenotype from standing genetic variation present in the ancestral taxon.” ↩ ↩

  24. 24.

    Rohner, Nicolas et al.  “Cryptic variation in morphological evolution: HSP90 as a capacitor for loss of eyes in cavefish.”  Science 342(6164):1372–1375.  Dec 13, 2013.  A laboratory study in which surface fish were given radicicol, a drug that blocks HSP90, a protein that helps other proteins fold and so buffers genetic variation.  The drug exposed hidden variation in eye size, and by breeding for smaller eyes the team got reduced-eyed fish even with HSP90 working normally.  The article uses it to show that some of the cave eye alleles were already present in the surface fish.

    1. 24a.

      Section Abstract:  “We provide evidence that HSP90 phenotypically masks standing eye size variation in surface populations of the cavefish Astyanax mexicanus.  This variation is exposed by HSP90 inhibition, and can be selected for, ultimately yielding a reduced-eye phenotype even in the presence of full HSP90 activity.  Raising surface fish under conditions found in caves taxes the HSP90 system, unmasking the same phenotypic variation as direct inhibition of HSP90.” ↩ ↩

  25. 25.

    Bilandžija, Helena et al.  “Phenotypic plasticity as a mechanism of cave colonization and adaptation.”  eLife 9:e51830.  Apr 21, 2020.  A laboratory experiment that raised surface-dwelling Mexican tetra in complete darkness for up to two years and compared them with fish kept on a normal day and night cycle.  Most of the altered traits mimicked cave fish, and they arise through plasticity rather than new mutations.  The article cites it in its discussion of where the cave traits came from, for the point that some of them can appear with no new mutation at all.

    1. 25a.

      Page 1, section Abstract:  “Our results indicate that many cave-related traits can appear within a single generation by phenotypic plasticity.” ↩

  26. 26.

    Jeffery, William R.  “Adaptive evolution of eye degeneration in the Mexican blind cavefish.”  Journal of Heredity 96(3):185–196.  2005.  A 2005 paper by William R. Jeffery arguing that the cave eye could have been lost by default, as a side effect of selection for useful traits such as feeding structures.  Pleiotropy, where one gene affects several traits at once, is the mechanism it names.  The article uses it as the alternative to the view that selection removed the eye directly.

    1. 26a.

      Section Abstract:  “Accordingly, eyes could have been lost by default as a consequence of natural selection for constructive traits, such as feeding structures, which are positively regulated by Hh signaling.  We conclude from these studies that eye degeneration in cavefish may be caused by adaptive evolution and pleiotropy.” ↩

  27. 27.

    Wieland, Carl.  “Let the blind see … Breeding blind fish with blind fish restores sight.”  Creation Ministries International.  Jan 10, 2008.  A pre-publication version of a short article, later printed in Creation 30(4):54–55, on a 2008 New York University study in which crosses between four blind cave fish populations restored some sight, and in some crosses nearly 40 percent of the offspring could see.  Its science comes from the university's press release of 8 January 2008, not from the paper, which was later formally published in Current Biology.  The article calls it the most careful creationist treatment of the crosses and uses it for Wieland's prediction about how long the fish have been in the dark.

    1. 27a.

      “Because the same defect (eye loss) was caused by different genes being damaged in each of the populations, 'when you cross them, the genetic deficiencies in one lineage are compensated for by strengths in the other, and vice-versa.'” ↩

    2. 27b.

      “Cave fish have arisen by processes that in fact demonstrate the opposite—deterioration of function, consistent with the 'natural' direction of genetic change in a fallen world.” ↩

    3. 27c.

      “If anything, the degree of restoration of even the brain connections suggests that there has not been enough time for significant mutational deterioration to occur in most or all of the genetic instructions needed for eyesight (remember that natural selection is not going to preserve any of the eye-constructing genes).” ↩

    4. 27d.

      “It is also because the possibility of such a reconstruction would get progressively less likely, the more time that has elapsed since the fish were originally confined to their underworld existence.” ↩

  28. 28.

    Thomas, Brian.  “Evolution Made Cavefish Go Blind?”  Creation Science Update, Institute for Creation Research.  Feb 7, 2012.  A short news commentary by Brian Thomas, a science writer at the Institute for Creation Research, on a 2012 study by Martina Bradic and colleagues in BMC Evolutionary Biology.  The study compared DNA from 11 cavefish populations with 10 related populations that can see, and found that the cave populations arose at least five times independently.  The article uses it because Thomas reported the study's five origins accurately and drew the information argument from them.

    1. 28a.

      “But obtaining the fish sight system required an input of a massive quantity and quality of information.  And making the fish blind merely required the loss of some of that information.” ↩

  29. 29.

    Mitchell, Elizabeth.  “How Cavefish Went Blind, and Why It Matters.”  Answers in Genesis, News to Know.  Feb 17, 2014.  A short News to Know commentary by Elizabeth Mitchell of Answers in Genesis, on new research suggesting that a molecular chaperone, HSP90, may mask mutations in cavefish until the stress of the cave exposes them.  She argues that blind fish from different caves produce sighted offspring when crossed, so the fish did not evolve their blindness.  The article uses it as a creationist source that conceded loss: she writes that the lost information for sight was reassembled when the populations were reunited.

    1. 29a.

      “Evolutionists believe it took 2 to 3 million years for cavefish to "evolve" their blindness.  Yet blind cavefish from different regions, when crossbred, produce sighted offspring in only one generation.  These fish had not evolved blindness.  They were just blind variants of the same kind of fish.  When populations that had lost their genetic information for sight while isolated were reunited, the genetic information for proper eyes was reassembled like the pieces of a puzzle.” ↩

  30. 30.

    Thomas, Brian.  “Blind Cavefish Shed Light on Creation.”  Creation Science Update, Institute for Creation Research.  Jan 8, 2014.  A short Creation Science Update article by Brian Thomas of the Institute for Creation Research.  The article uses it for the creationist shift after Rohner's 2013 HSP90 paper in Science, when the tone changed from calling the cave fish's blindness loss to calling it design.

    1. 30a.

      “But the sightless Mexican tetra exhibits development of helpful, cave-specific traits—not from harmful mutations but through genetic variability buffered by HSP90.” ↩

  31. 31.

    Ham, Ken.  “Does Evolution Go Backward? A Look at Blind Cave Fish.”  Answers in Genesis, Ken Ham blog.  Feb 20, 2023.  A blog post by Ken Ham, responding to a news report of a new cave fish species, Sinocyclocheilus, found in a dining table-size pool in a Chinese cave, which the report hailed as regressive evolution.  Ham says the post was "written with the assistance of AiG's research team."  The article cites it for the claim that the genes for eye development are switched off and back on within one generation.

    1. 31a.

      “These changes cause the genes for eye development to be "turned off"—and it can happen in just one generation and likewise be "reversed" in just one generation!” ↩